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marmar

(77,073 posts)
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:06 AM May 2013

Giant Swamp Rats Are Literally Eating Louisiana





On the southern edge of Louisiana, there is almost as much water as land. You can't drive to anyone's house, you have to travel by boat, and sometimes there are hours of water between neighbors. It takes a special breed to make a home here, in the swamp, amongst the mosquitos and almost annual hurricanes. But those who do call it home, love it. They see a magical space of strange stillness and subtle rippling greens and grays where time worries no one and the freedom of the water is at your doorstep.

But this Huck Finn way of life is being attacked on multiple fronts. Climate change's stronger storms are beating away at the fragile coastline, and the oil and gas industries are scarring the skyline while luring younger generations away from the local farming and fishing way of life. As if that weren't enough, 20-pound, semi-aquatic rodents, called nutria, which are native to Argentina, are taking over the marshes, devouring the native plants that hold the soil in place, and causing massive coastal erosion. Chris Metzier, an independent documentary filmmaker, has spent months in these swamps on the front lines of this battle, filming his upcoming documentary Rodents of Unusual Size. He sat down with me recently to talk about nutria and the interesting people who are fighting them to save their way of life.

TakePart: How would you describe nutria, and how did they end up in Louisiana?

Chris Metzier: Nutria are something like a cross between a beaver and a New York sewer rat. They were first brought to Louisiana in the 1930s in order to be farmed for their fur, which was growing in popularity. No one knows exactly how they escaped into the wild. Maybe someone let them go when the fur industry was failing, or perhaps it was the work of a hurricane that tore apart a barn they were being kept in. One way or another, they escaped into the swamps and have just gone crazy. This part of Louisiana is just like a big playground for them. And they can breed within months of being born and have multiple litters a year. There are now about five million nutria in this part of Louisiana. There are nutria in other parts of the country, as well, but nowhere have they made themselves quite so much at home as in Louisiana. That's great for nutria, I guess, but they eat everything that grows, and without plants holding the soil in place, it is eroding away at record speeds—about 40 square miles per year, for several decades now. ...........................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://news.yahoo.com/giant-swamp-rats-literally-eating-louisiana-questions-202344859.html



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Giant Swamp Rats Are Literally Eating Louisiana (Original Post) marmar May 2013 OP
what do they taste like? snooper2 May 2013 #1
I've heard they're not too bad. LuvNewcastle May 2013 #9
better than muskrat d_r May 2013 #37
My first thought as well...eat what's eating you! eom Maeve May 2013 #53
Oh you literally meant swamp rats. Have to take off my political hat for a second..... Sheepshank May 2013 #2
Wait till the burmese pythons from the everglades Vinnie From Indy May 2013 #3
That would be a good thing. They'll eat the rats. n/t RebelOne May 2013 #29
ROUS!!!! tblue May 2013 #4
lmao! now i know what we are up against lol! just need 5 million princes to be imported to Louisiana BREMPRO May 2013 #12
But then who will feed and shelter the 5 million princes!? We'll need 5 million pricess brides... Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #45
Sounds like the beginning of an Australian nightmare.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #5
My solution: plant some rock pythons in the swamps AngryAmish May 2013 #6
There was an old lady who swallowed a fly MattBaggins May 2013 #8
We all know where that ends. longship May 2013 #34
Can I nominate Piyush Jindal to be the appetizer? 11 Bravo May 2013 #7
Swamp Rat is Truth! Octafish May 2013 #10
My first thought also. I wonder does he ever come around anymore? Haven't seen him here in ages. Mnemosyne May 2013 #16
I was sort of hoping he'd make an appearance... Blue_Tires May 2013 #23
Nutria have been there for decades and I even have a nutria felt hat. Something in the ecology byeya May 2013 #11
What does the nutria fur feel like? fleur-de-lisa May 2013 #24
By the time the Nutria fur is processed into felt and compressed it feels like most felt fedoras byeya May 2013 #25
Didn't George Costanza have a Nutria hat? nt msanthrope May 2013 #32
Yes he surely did. He got Elaine, while she was running J. Peterman, Co, to buy him a sable. byeya May 2013 #40
Good to know . . . fleur-de-lisa May 2013 #36
Somehow. I see the oil/gas/chemical folks as a more dangerous SoCalDem May 2013 #13
War with the Newts DavidDvorkin May 2013 #14
A wonderful book as is his play R.U.R. byeya May 2013 #15
Yes! I wish he were better known nowadays. DavidDvorkin May 2013 #22
He and his brother wrote an amazing play blogslut May 2013 #61
that was scary BillStein May 2013 #20
The newts in the book are intelligent and honorable. DavidDvorkin May 2013 #21
I don't know why it's not better known. This type of fiction is still popular and it's byeya May 2013 #27
Thanks. I'm an early sci-fi fan and I've never read Karel Capek.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #41
It's just my opinion, but I'd pick War with the Newts. byeya May 2013 #44
Oh, look: 3 of his works are on AudioBooksForFree.com.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #46
Go for it!! byeya May 2013 #56
As I remember, R.U.R. is shorter DavidDvorkin May 2013 #47
Pet food industry? Asian food market? mainer May 2013 #17
I'm bullish on nutria n/t Enrique May 2013 #18
Newchurats demwing May 2013 #19
Your guy is what we call a 'Boudreaux' . . . fleur-de-lisa May 2013 #26
LOL byeya May 2013 #28
He was saying Nutria Rat hootinholler May 2013 #49
Meet Boudreaux, the AAA New Orleans Zephyrs' mascot KamaAina May 2013 #30
I still salute the Zephyrs.. Mr. David May 2013 #57
The Denver Zephyrs were named after the California Zephyr train KamaAina May 2013 #58
I hear they consider soiled diapers worn by Senators a delicacy (n/m) ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2013 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #33
Horrified is the way to go, I think . . . fleur-de-lisa May 2013 #38
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2013 #39
Yes, I've seen them in person . . . fleur-de-lisa May 2013 #42
Bon appe'tit! I wish them a hearty appetite 1-Old-Man May 2013 #35
I've got 2 pet rats but what they usually do is chase the dog. (and he likes it) BlueJazz May 2013 #43
Maybe if we can convince the Chinese they cure cancer... bluedigger May 2013 #48
Wilford Brimley Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #50
Take care of your diabetes Junkdrawer May 2013 #52
I miss our Swamp Rat! leveymg May 2013 #51
Has he posted after Katrina? nt AnotherDreamWeaver May 2013 #63
Katrina was '05. Some of his work from '07-'08 is on Google images. leveymg May 2013 #65
Well, that's good. I recall the concern for him back then. AnotherDreamWeaver May 2013 #66
He has a distinctive style. Haven't seen anything quite like it anywhere since. leveymg May 2013 #67
Think I may have found him! leveymg May 2013 #68
Among other things, they are eating most of the cypress saplings. nt ladjf May 2013 #54
just wait until the fence at the capybara farm breaks! 0rganism May 2013 #55
Nutria Chili rdharma May 2013 #59
poor rats MFM008 May 2013 #60
They used to be trapped for their fur, which is gorgeous, but the traps were dangerous. nolabear May 2013 #62
they have nutria hit squads .... MichaelSoE May 2013 #64

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
9. I've heard they're not too bad.
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:22 AM
May 2013

I'm guessing that they might taste similar to guinea pigs, which are very popular in some parts of South America. If you put the meat in gumbo or some sort of soup, it will probably take on some of the flavor of the seafood or chicken and sausage. I'd be willing to give it a try.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
2. Oh you literally meant swamp rats. Have to take off my political hat for a second.....
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:11 AM
May 2013

but the end result is the same...."eeewwwwwwwww"

BREMPRO

(2,331 posts)
12. lmao! now i know what we are up against lol! just need 5 million princes to be imported to Louisiana
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:28 AM
May 2013

that should take care of them!

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
45. But then who will feed and shelter the 5 million princes!? We'll need 5 million pricess brides...
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:39 PM
May 2013

Overrun by characters. Just like the cane toad in Australia, only a much better love story.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
5. Sounds like the beginning of an Australian nightmare....
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:15 AM
May 2013

You know: Introduce nutria predators then watch as THEY become an even bigger problem.

Man-made ecosystems never seem to work out....

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
11. Nutria have been there for decades and I even have a nutria felt hat. Something in the ecology
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:23 AM
May 2013

of Louisiana has worsened to allow this population explosion. Exotic animals and plants are a huge problem in North America and Nutria are yet another example. Wild boar from Europe are killing native vegetation in the forested southeast.

Imported diseases have pretty much killed all of our native elms and chestnuts and dogwoods are dying rapidly.

Starlings almost caused the extinction of bluebirds before the bluebird nestbox building took hold.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
24. What does the nutria fur feel like?
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:45 PM
May 2013

I live in south Louisiana and have seen these creepy things roaming around at night, but I've never been close enough to get a good look at the pelt. Doesn't look to be very soft. I've always imagined it would be like petting a hedgehog.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
25. By the time the Nutria fur is processed into felt and compressed it feels like most felt fedoras
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:52 PM
May 2013

do except for beaver which feels nicer(the only word I can think of and I have a few Italian beaver fedoras) and is long wearing.
It's good for hats, in my opinion and environmentally, so much better than beaver.
If you've ever seen a photo of a park ranger of the National Park Service in his/her flat brimmed ranger hat, the odds are, it's made of Nutria fur.
I would hope some of the bayou dwellers in LA would make a dollar or three trapping these nutria and selling the pelts for use in hats and whatever else can be sold - felt boot liners for ice fishermen maybe.

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
40. Yes he surely did. He got Elaine, while she was running J. Peterman, Co, to buy him a sable.
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:28 PM
May 2013

large Dr Zhivago type of hat.
And when Elaine tried to justify the expense saying it was sable(there was a hat loss and switch to nutria) the man in accounting said, "No it's not a type of sable, it's a type of rat"
Thanks for reminding me of this memorable moment of a great tv series.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
36. Good to know . . .
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:01 PM
May 2013

I have heard that a lot of gun nuts in south Louisiana, and even law enforcement in some rural areas, will shoot nutria just for sport. Nobody seems to care since they have become invasive. Might as well put their pelts to good use instead of just killing them and leaving the carcasses to rot.

blogslut

(37,999 posts)
61. He and his brother wrote an amazing play
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:11 PM
May 2013
The Insect Play - one of the best segments involved and army of red ants at war with an army of black ants over a blade of grass.

BillStein

(758 posts)
20. that was scary
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:22 PM
May 2013

War with Newts? I pictured hundreds of fat little hypocrites with gray hair! Never more scared!!!

 

byeya

(2,842 posts)
27. I don't know why it's not better known. This type of fiction is still popular and it's
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:55 PM
May 2013

beautifully written even in translation.
R.U.R. introduced the word "robot" to the world and deserves to be staged.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
41. Thanks. I'm an early sci-fi fan and I've never read Karel Capek....
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:29 PM
May 2013

Shocking omission.

Think I'll begin to fix that.



Shoud I start with R.U.R. or War with the Newts?

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
47. As I remember, R.U.R. is shorter
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:42 PM
May 2013

It's a play, so the written form is more compact than a novel. I remember it as a fairly quick read.

They're quite different, but both are really great.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
17. Pet food industry? Asian food market?
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:13 PM
May 2013

It's free range and said to be delicious. The possibilities for this source of protein seem pretty good.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
19. Newchurats
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:20 PM
May 2013

Met a guy from LA when I liven in San Francisco, and he tried to tell me about eating nutria rats.

Problem was this guy had an accent born in the Louisiana swamps, and wasn't very well educated. Oh hell, he was as dumb as a stump.

I couldn't make out the word "nutria." It sounded like he was saying "newchurat," so I eventually asked him to spell it.

His eyes lost focus for a sec, and then he sounded it out phonetically: "New"-"Tree"-"Yah."

I said "No, no...spell it, please!"

He says "I did spell it..." 'New' like it aint old, 'tree' like a big bush, and 'yah' like 'yah want I should spell it again?' ..."Newchurat"

I about died.

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
26. Your guy is what we call a 'Boudreaux' . . .
Thu May 9, 2013, 12:54 PM
May 2013

a not so bright person of Cajun descent. They are supposedly known for their willingness to eat anything that doesn't eat them first. There are all kinds of Boudreaux jokes flying across the intertubes:


Down in Lafourche Parish, Louisiana, Boudreaux gets a job with BP helping with the Gulf oil spill cleanup. He reports for work and is told to speak to a supervisor about his assignment.

He finds the man and asks, "What it is you want I should do?"

The supervisor tells Boudreaux to go to the animal shelter and clean the pelicans. Two hours later, Boudreaux comes up to the supervisor and says, "Okay, dey all clean. You want I should cook some rice?"

hootinholler

(26,449 posts)
49. He was saying Nutria Rat
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:44 PM
May 2013

Which is what English speaking folk call them. Newchurat would be the Cajun pronunciation.

As to spelling, you don tol me nutin me!

 

Mr. David

(535 posts)
57. I still salute the Zephyrs..
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:41 PM
May 2013

They were the pre-Colorado Rockies (Denver Zephyrs) before 1993.

After we obtained the team, the AAA team was sold to New Orleans and still is named the Zephyrs for different reasons.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
58. The Denver Zephyrs were named after the California Zephyr train
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:52 PM
May 2013

that runs through Denver.

Traditionally, New Orleans baseball teams were the Pelicans. I guess they couldn't get the rights to that; it will now be the name of the NBA Hornets.

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fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
38. Horrified is the way to go, I think . . .
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:11 PM
May 2013

Their teeth are kind of like beaver, but they remind me more of hamster teeth, huge hamster teeth. Most of the nutria I have seen have far longer teeth than the one in the photo, and they are dark yellow, kind of 'school bus' colored. I mean the teeth are yellow, not the nutria.

And they are nocturnal and rather large, like a small to medium sized dog. Can you imagine seeing one of those things at night? I have never heard of one being aggressive, thank goodness. But they are creepy. The stuff of nightmares . . .

Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #38)

fleur-de-lisa

(14,624 posts)
42. Yes, I've seen them in person . . .
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:32 PM
May 2013

They live in low-lying, wet areas and also in the man-made canals in south Louisiana. There are literally thousands of canals around here because most of the area is, or was, swamp land. The nutria habitat isn't limited to rural areas. The creepy buggers are everywhere.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
43. I've got 2 pet rats but what they usually do is chase the dog. (and he likes it)
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:32 PM
May 2013

He's a Golden Retriever and plays with them for hours.

This is about how they look..

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
65. Katrina was '05. Some of his work from '07-'08 is on Google images.
Fri May 10, 2013, 12:06 PM
May 2013

Nothing thereafter that I could find.

 

rdharma

(6,057 posts)
59. Nutria Chili
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:53 PM
May 2013

Recipe

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Nutria Chili
Recipe by: Chef Enola Prudhomme

3 tablespoons vegetable oil
2 pounds nutria ground meat
1 tablespoon + 1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon red pepper
1 tablespoon + 1 teaspoon chili powder
1 cup diced onion
1 cup diced green bell pepper
1 cup diced red bell pepper
1 cup tomato paste
4 cups beef stock (or water)
1 can red kidney beans (opt.)

In a heavy 5-quart pot on high heat, add oil and heat until very hot. Add meat, and cook and stir 10 minutes. Add salt, red pepper, chili powder, onion and both bell peppers. Cook and stir 15 minutes. Add tomato paste and 4 cups stock. Cook 30 minutes; reduce heat to medium. Add red kidney beans; cook an additional 10 minutes. Serve hot!


nolabear

(41,959 posts)
62. They used to be trapped for their fur, which is gorgeous, but the traps were dangerous.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:14 PM
May 2013

Once that was stopped because Fideaux kept getting in the traps they took off. And yes, they're enormous things.

Personally, I think nutria are not the varmints that are hurting Louisiana. Big Oil and the gov't are doing more than their fair share.

MichaelSoE

(1,576 posts)
64. they have nutria hit squads ....
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:49 AM
May 2013

From Dave Attell's insomniac series ... the nutria hit squad segment @ 8:48

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