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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:16 PM May 2013

Vultures eat woman's body in 50 minutes after fall off cliff

A woman was eaten by vultures after falling off a cliff in the French Pyrénées, International Business Times reported.

The French woman, whose name has not been released, was hiking Friday in the area with two friends. According to the Times, she attempted a shortcut through the mountain range, located on the border with Spain, but fell off a cliff and died.

The Times reported she died before being eaten by the vultures.

United Press International said she fell about 980 feet. According to UPI, it took the vultures about 50 minutes to eat the 52-year-old's body. They left behind nothing but her bones, clothes and shoes.

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http://news.msn.com/world/vultures-eat-womans-body-in-50-minutes-after-fall-off-cliff?ocid=OBTAP

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Vultures eat woman's body in 50 minutes after fall off cliff (Original Post) cali May 2013 OP
Why do I see this as foretaste of our fate? Junkdrawer May 2013 #1
Every organic entity on this planet is food for another organic entity. Ikonoklast May 2013 #2
Huh? Marr May 2013 #23
Louis CK Yavin4 May 2013 #32
Yeah, true. That was totally weird, though. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #75
You're just really weird like that, I suppose. I dunno really. AverageJoe90 May 2013 #74
It was on my mind today.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #76
And here I thought BONES exaggerated.. Tikki May 2013 #3
It's what vultures do. The headline's focus aside, I guess this is more about pinto May 2013 #4
Vultures killed stuff in the 1970s. sofa king May 2013 #72
called a "Sky Burial" in Tibet riverwalker May 2013 #5
Griffon vultures are beautiful birds... DreamGypsy May 2013 #6
That is a magnificent looking animal! randome May 2013 #56
That's a beautiful photo of a vulture! lunatica May 2013 #58
+1 Jamastiene May 2013 #77
How the Clean-up Crew operates in Texas, too... Eleanors38 May 2013 #7
What a great way to go- I am not kidding. Instant death and sky burial, giving life to the planet KittyWampus May 2013 #8
980 feet isn't "instant" until you hit the bottom Scootaloo May 2013 #27
It's exactly how I'd like to go. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #38
would the vultures get stoned if they ate your narcotic hazed body???? dembotoz May 2013 #50
Not my problem anymore Warren DeMontague May 2013 #57
addicted vultures--oh the humanity dembotoz May 2013 #61
Vultures in South Asia were dying of kidney failure from drugs given to cattle muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #86
That sounds peaceful. Jamastiene May 2013 #81
In fact, come to think of it, I may actually include the phrase "geeezed to the yammer" in my Warren DeMontague May 2013 #84
It's not the fall that kills, it's the sudden stop... backscatter712 May 2013 #48
:) stuntcat May 2013 #63
sounds like an opportunity for a non-polluting alternative to cremation or burial yurbud Apr 2014 #89
We're talking a guy longer than the height of the Comcast Center. HughBeaumont May 2013 #9
Personally I think the being dead part is worse flamingdem May 2013 #10
Me too. tblue May 2013 #26
So who timed the vultures? Myrina May 2013 #11
I'm not sure how easy it is to rescue/recover someone after a 980 foot fall Renew Deal May 2013 #13
Ok, so ... did her hiking crew sit there and watch her get eaten? Myrina May 2013 #14
That's presumably how long it too somebody to reach her body. kestrel91316 May 2013 #16
According to this French-language article, Art_from_Ark May 2013 #66
I have a problem with this story. Cleita May 2013 #18
Big differences between old world and new world vultures Scootaloo May 2013 #33
Thanks. I appreciate the lesson as I really didn't know. I just know about birds from Cleita May 2013 #42
Oh dear. MADem May 2013 #51
They had a guy at the bottom with a stopwatch? Jamastiene May 2013 #80
respect teh wildlife snooper2 May 2013 #12
Parsis in India feed their dead to vultures .. guess it pretty eco friendly srican69 May 2013 #15
I want to be fed to whales. tblue May 2013 #28
Join the crew of the Pequod n/t Scootaloo May 2013 #34
Sea creatures are my choice as well - I've told my wife that I want to go straight petronius May 2013 #60
I wish we really did have more choices. Jamastiene May 2013 #79
Oh goodness. Where is that? tblue May 2013 #85
My county is in the southern central part of NC. Jamastiene May 2013 #88
Well... HappyMe May 2013 #17
Weird that the vultures would attack living livestock. They usually Cleita May 2013 #19
There's several types of them, with widely varying behaviours. (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #54
Cliff? KamaAina May 2013 #20
hmm. In that case who were the vultures? flamingdem May 2013 #36
Wall Street banksters! KamaAina May 2013 #40
She fell 980 feet, the part about her being dead before the Rex May 2013 #21
note to self: stay out of the Pyrenees next trip to Spain...a little cafe in Barcelona, CTyankee May 2013 #22
I agree. HappyMe May 2013 #25
Hoping to get back to Spain in 2014. Beautiful country! I found the Pyrenees very CTyankee May 2013 #29
Did you happen to see The Way with Martin Sheen and Emilio Estevez ? Hassin Bin Sober May 2013 #67
I missed that one. It sounds very interesting...another note to self to pick that one up... CTyankee May 2013 #87
What's up with people risking their lives over mountains flamingdem May 2013 #37
Wtf? HappyMe May 2013 #39
I'm referring to myself flamingdem May 2013 #45
Oh! I'm sorry. HappyMe May 2013 #46
No name for victim. No precise date for incident. No precise location for incident. struggle4progress May 2013 #24
That stood out to me too. Jamastiene May 2013 #82
They are efficient get the red out May 2013 #30
As Thomas Hobbes wrote: aristocles May 2013 #31
Vultures gotta vultch. nolabear May 2013 #35
Yep. "Circle of Life" and all. GoCubsGo May 2013 #41
I agree. Don't hate the raptor, hate the maim. nt Poll_Blind May 2013 #43
* Bucky May 2013 #49
Oh, Sweet Jesus. nolabear May 2013 #53
[wail of anguish] (nt) Posteritatis May 2013 #55
LOL stuntcat May 2013 #64
I "rescued" some French tourists in Death Valley a few months ago Nevernose May 2013 #44
Pipe down, people. I'm trying to think up how I can blame this on Ted Cruz. Bucky May 2013 #47
vultures get hungry too datasuspect May 2013 #52
Isn't the story "Woman Dies After Falling Off Cliff?" Blue_Tires May 2013 #59
fast food..... MFM008 May 2013 #62
It will take longer for me too. Jamastiene May 2013 #83
Well, I guess that means she was recycled. Honeycombe8 May 2013 #65
Thought humans were at the top of the food chain..... MzShellG May 2013 #68
All-you-care-to-eat (limited time only) (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #69
Circle of Life. sadbear May 2013 #70
whoa Liberal_in_LA May 2013 #71
Hopefully, she was a Zoroastrian. nt MrScorpio May 2013 #73
It sounds better if you refer to the process as excarnation. dimbear May 2013 #78

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
1. Why do I see this as foretaste of our fate?
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:20 PM
May 2013

We won't destroy the Life on Earth. Life on Earth will eventually find a use for us.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
2. Every organic entity on this planet is food for another organic entity.
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:23 PM
May 2013

Humans are not immune from that immutable fact.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
23. Huh?
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:23 PM
May 2013

Of course it is. We're living things. Just about everything ends up being eaten by something.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
75. Yeah, true. That was totally weird, though.
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:16 PM
May 2013

"Foretaste of our fate"? Somebody must've pissed in his Wheaties this morning.....

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
74. You're just really weird like that, I suppose. I dunno really.
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:15 PM
May 2013

Hey, no offense, but that was a totally off-topic and strange thing to say on a thread like this.....

pinto

(106,886 posts)
4. It's what vultures do. The headline's focus aside, I guess this is more about
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:24 PM
May 2013

local farmers wanting to hunt them to protect their livestock. Not sure if vultures attack live animals? Thought they generally ate livestock carcasses.



Pericou added that the incident has reignited calls from local farmers to allow hunting of the birds.

The Times reported that Pyrénéan farmers have been demanding the right to shoot the birds, known as Griffon Vultures, because they've been attacking sheep and cows.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
72. Vultures killed stuff in the 1970s.
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:09 PM
May 2013

Last edited Fri May 10, 2013, 12:43 AM - Edit history (1)



(Edit: Apparently one of their first victims was good taste.)

DreamGypsy

(2,252 posts)
6. Griffon vultures are beautiful birds...
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:31 PM
May 2013

...though perhaps not exactly suited to everyone's taste. Vultures and other carrion eaters perform a valuable function cleaning up dead things...and, as we know, all things that live must die. Rotting carcases are a health hazard; bones, clothes and shoes not so much.

Another excerpt from the article:

The Times reported that Pyrénéan farmers have been demanding the right to shoot the birds, known as Griffon Vultures, because they've been attacking sheep and cows.

But the species is protected in France and has lost access to its normal diet of carcasses due to European health and safety regulations.


That's what happens when a natural balence is disturbed.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
56. That is a magnificent looking animal!
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:38 PM
May 2013

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lunatica

(53,410 posts)
58. That's a beautiful photo of a vulture!
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:42 PM
May 2013

Vultures are amazing birds who glide forever on upward heated air currents and who can smell carrion from many miles away. They also seem to have an uncanny way of knowing if an animal or human is dying. I've never seen a picture of a dead one.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
77. +1
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:33 PM
May 2013

Gorgeous vulture! I love vultures anyhow, because we really do need them and other carrion eaters. We'd be up to our necks in dead bodies without the carrion eaters.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
7. How the Clean-up Crew operates in Texas, too...
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:31 PM
May 2013

Took about 1.5 hours to wrap up a field-dressed deer I shot. I've gotten to where I stay with a downed animal & radio in for a pick up. Damned vultures even buzz me. Thick as hives in this drought, I guess.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
8. What a great way to go- I am not kidding. Instant death and sky burial, giving life to the planet
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:33 PM
May 2013

so quickly after death.

It's quite profound.

Condolences to her family.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
27. 980 feet isn't "instant" until you hit the bottom
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:42 PM
May 2013

Until that moment, I'm sure it's beyond terrifying.

Let me die without ever noticing... then send in the vultures and hyenas and whatever else wants a bite

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. It's exactly how I'd like to go.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:29 PM
May 2013

Except I'd be 105 years old, at home, in bed, surrounded by loved ones, and geeezed to the yammer on pain meds as I slowly drift off into a peaceful narcotic haze.

But other than that, exactly the same. And the vultures are welcome to whatever's left.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
50. would the vultures get stoned if they ate your narcotic hazed body????
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:10 PM
May 2013

I see a great video on tosh 2.0 in the making here......

stone vultures flying into walls....

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
86. Vultures in South Asia were dying of kidney failure from drugs given to cattle
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:55 AM
May 2013
Long-billed vulture numbers recover in Pakistan after diclofenac ban

Diclofenac was banned for veterinary use across south Asia in 2006 after it was discovered to be responsible for catastrophic declines in vulture populations in Pakistan, India, Nepal and Bangladesh, by as much as 99% over 10 years.

The anti-inflammatory treatment was used to treat ailing cattle and other livestock, and when these carcasses were left out for vultures to scavenge, the birds died of kidney failure in their thousands.

As a result, once-common Asian vultures are among the most endangered birds in the world, and the long-billed vulture is one of four Asian species listed as critically endangered by the IUCN.

However a new study by the Peregrine Fund found that by 2008, two years after the ban, breeding populations of the long-billed vulture at study sites in Pakistan had increased by up to 52%.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/oct/30/pakistan-vulture-diclofenac-ban


A particular problem in India, where religion meant that many farmers didn't want to put down sick cattle, but gave them drugs instead. The drop in vulture numbers had the knock on effect of an increase of feral dogs scavenging what the vultures had; which increased the risk of rabies, and also increased the attacks on dogs by leopards - and the attacks on humans by leopards. http://antranik.org/the-great-indian-vulture-crisis/

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
84. In fact, come to think of it, I may actually include the phrase "geeezed to the yammer" in my
Thu May 9, 2013, 11:50 PM
May 2013

care directive.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
48. It's not the fall that kills, it's the sudden stop...
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:53 PM
May 2013

Well, yeah, falling to your death would be pretty terrifying, but then again, people jump off of cliffs on purpose, for bungee jumping and BASE jump parachuting.

I imagine the actual death would be instantaneous.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
9. We're talking a guy longer than the height of the Comcast Center.
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:38 PM
May 2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comcast_Center_(office_building)

You couldn't PAY me to hike so close to giant cliffs or mountains. Other than coasters and the occasional plane, I'm strictly a landlubber.

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
10. Personally I think the being dead part is worse
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:48 PM
May 2013

than the having your bones cleaned by vultures part.

Big deal, it's nature.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
26. Me too.
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:42 PM
May 2013

It's fascinating in a macabre way, I guess, but hopefully she was a nature lover who wouldn't care. I've been trying to decide what to do with my ashes after I am cremated. I wouldn't mind if they were fed to some nice tree.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
11. So who timed the vultures?
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:50 PM
May 2013
How'd they come up with 50 minutes?
Would be really deplorable if people knew she fell but nobody tried to rescue/retrieve her.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
13. I'm not sure how easy it is to rescue/recover someone after a 980 foot fall
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:52 PM
May 2013

The descent through the mountains probably takes a long time and the location where she fell may not be easily accesible.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
14. Ok, so ... did her hiking crew sit there and watch her get eaten?
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:55 PM
May 2013

Seriously, how did anyone know it was "50 minutes" ?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
66. According to this French-language article,
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:41 PM
May 2013

the woman was 53 years old. She fell from the summit of Piste on April 14th, and when the rescue crew arrived around *2 hours later*, they found that vultures had already eaten away her body.

""Nous sommes arrivés sur les lieux en hélicoptère environ deux heures après l'accident, il ne restait que les ossements", a indiqué un secouriste du PGHM présent sur la scène du drame."

http://midi-pyrenees.france3.fr/2013/05/03/pyrenees-les-vautours-auraient-devore-le-corps-d-une-randonneuse-245283.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+France3-MidiPyrenees-Info+%28France+3+-+Info+Midi-Pyrenees%29

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
18. I have a problem with this story.
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:12 PM
May 2013

My experience in watching the vultures where I live is that they prefer a corpse that is starting to rot. They actually don't seem to like fresh kill and will wait a day or two for it to marinate if other scavengers don't get there first. If they ate the corpse in fifty minutes, that's pretty understandable. What if she had died first before being thrown off the cliff for the vultures?

Just sayin'.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
33. Big differences between old world and new world vultures
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:07 PM
May 2013

Old world vultures are predatory; essentially eagles without the killer talons. They're powerful, and turn to predation fairly readily when carrion's not available (Europe's not Africa, there aren't megafauna carcasses littering the landscape, after all). They also form flocks and colonies, which means this woman might have had anywhere from ten to thirty birds working on her

New world vultures are only distantly related to other Accipteridae (and maybe not at all!) They are much more reliant on carrion, having more gracile beaks and weak feet with fairly dull talons. They're opportunists, taking eggs and garbage, but only the black vulture has ever been observed taking live prey. The black vulture is also the only one that makes large groups, and even then mostly for breeding.

Plus, not to be disrespectful, but a 980-foot fall in the mountains is going to loosen the body up more than enough for scavenger birds to strip it.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
42. Thanks. I appreciate the lesson as I really didn't know. I just know about birds from
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:33 PM
May 2013

what I observe from my feathered neighbors and that has been only in the New World.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. Oh dear.
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:18 PM
May 2013

I'm thinking about how Europeans prize fresh food now....they're more likely to 'shop daily,' etc.

Terribly inappropriate, I know...

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
80. They had a guy at the bottom with a stopwatch?
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:49 PM
May 2013

I don't know. I am interested in knowing the answer to that question too. I would guess, and it would only be a guess, they were trying to get to her body taking a safer path than she did and it took 50 minutes? That's just a guess though.

srican69

(1,426 posts)
15. Parsis in India feed their dead to vultures .. guess it pretty eco friendly
Thu May 9, 2013, 01:59 PM
May 2013

I would like a sea burial and be fed to fish

petronius

(26,598 posts)
60. Sea creatures are my choice as well - I've told my wife that I want to go straight
Thu May 9, 2013, 06:05 PM
May 2013

into the deep ocean, in a weighted net. (Well actually, I really want to be dressed in a pirate costume and deposited around a corner at my local dive spot, but there might be some objections to that...)

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
79. I wish we really did have more choices.
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:47 PM
May 2013

So many laws keep us from deciding what we REALLY want done to our bodies after we die. If a serial killer gets us, especially one who likes to hack up bodies, we have no choice, because serial killers don't follow those laws. But, if we die in a situation where the authorities are involved right away, we still don't get to decide. Out of all the choices we have in NC(burial in a Christian graveyard and cremation), I guess I want cremation. If no one else gets there first, though, let the wildlife live off my body.

Vultures would be the ultimate for my body, because I have always said if reincarnation is real, I wouldn't mind being a vulture in another life. They get to soar like they do, don't have to kill their own food, and nobody wants to capture them to make pets out of them. So, they are truly free, it seems.

I just hope my death is not at the hands of a serial killer. There is one operating in my area, even though the police in my county won't let it be mentioned in the paper. The county next door did allow it to be mentioned and most of the bodies they have found have been in my county.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
88. My county is in the southern central part of NC.
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:21 PM
May 2013

Where I live is about 75 miles east of Charlotte and 100 miles south of Raleigh. This serial killer has been operating since at least the mid 90s and nary a word on whether they've made any progress or not. I know the paper in my county will not report on it at all. The county next to us would report on it and I would probably see it online. I haven't seen anything new, so I have no clue whether the county next door has decided to go mum on any information too or what. It's downright creepy knowing our county's newspaper would not report on it when the news first hit.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
19. Weird that the vultures would attack living livestock. They usually
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013

don't kill first. Their job is clean up after a kill.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
21. She fell 980 feet, the part about her being dead before the
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:19 PM
May 2013

vultures ate her was really kinda not needed imo.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
22. note to self: stay out of the Pyrenees next trip to Spain...a little cafe in Barcelona,
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:21 PM
May 2013

sipping a cafe cortado, will do me just fine...

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
25. I agree.
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:36 PM
May 2013

I'll look at the beauty of the mountains from the safety of a cafe.

Taking off by yourself when hiking in the mountains is a pretty dumbass thing to do.

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
29. Hoping to get back to Spain in 2014. Beautiful country! I found the Pyrenees very
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:46 PM
May 2013

mysterious in late October, very misty, and I thought of the Jews who crossed into
France over them after expulsion in the 15th century, and the Jews who crossed from
France back into Spain after Hitler conquered France in the 20th...

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,315 posts)
67. Did you happen to see The Way with Martin Sheen and Emilio Estevez ?
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:48 PM
May 2013

It's on Netflix instant. Nice little diddy of a movie.


The Way
2010

PG-13

120 minutes

When his son dies while hiking the Camino de Santiago pilgrimage in the Pyrenees, a grieving father decides to complete the 500-mile trek to Spain.

Cast:Martin Sheen, Emilio Estevez, Deborah Kara UngerGenre ramas, Independent Movies, Dramas based on Books, Independent DramasThis movie is:Emotional, Inspiring, Understated

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
87. I missed that one. It sounds very interesting...another note to self to pick that one up...
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:50 AM
May 2013

thanks for the tip!

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
37. What's up with people risking their lives over mountains
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:28 PM
May 2013

Imagine not being able to know what's going on in the news in 10 years all because of some dumb mountain climbing expedition. Yay sedentary life!

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
39. Wtf?
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:31 PM
May 2013

Just because I'm not inclined to climb a mountain doesn't mean I'm all good with a sedentary life. There are other forms of exercise that don't involve getting eaten by vultures.

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
24. No name for victim. No precise date for incident. No precise location for incident.
Thu May 9, 2013, 02:28 PM
May 2013

Much of the coverage includes claims vultures are eating live animals and discusses calls for hunting the vultures

Hmmm ...

 

aristocles

(594 posts)
31. As Thomas Hobbes wrote:
Thu May 9, 2013, 03:54 PM
May 2013

"...continuall feare, and danger of violent death; And the life of man, solitary, poore, nasty, brutish, and short."

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
44. I "rescued" some French tourists in Death Valley a few months ago
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:38 PM
May 2013

Are bad shortcuts through inhospitable terrain characteristically French? Because I used to associate France with an awesome variety of cheese.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
47. Pipe down, people. I'm trying to think up how I can blame this on Ted Cruz.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:50 PM
May 2013

Dont get snarky, he's probably busy trying to figure out how this same incident was a result of Benghazi

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
59. Isn't the story "Woman Dies After Falling Off Cliff?"
Thu May 9, 2013, 05:47 PM
May 2013

Does anyone really give a shit about vulture eating habits?

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
62. fast food.....
Thu May 9, 2013, 07:02 PM
May 2013

I understand the lady was gone after a fall. That is unfortunate. Now before anyone has a rhino, I wouldnt mind the winged clean up crew cleaning up my leavings. It will take them longer than 50 minutes........................

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
65. Well, I guess that means she was recycled.
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:11 PM
May 2013

If I'm dead first, I guess that'd be okay with me. That's the way nature keeps itself clean and provides for itself.

MzShellG

(1,047 posts)
68. Thought humans were at the top of the food chain.....
Thu May 9, 2013, 08:52 PM
May 2013

But seriously, how sad to die that way. Im afraid of heights over that very possibility.

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