Charles Ramsey appears to be a human being just like the rest of us...

[WCGreen]

He is probably prone to rare episodes where he can't get reason before his emotions.

His domestic violence convictions are completely divorced from his reaction to a set of events that fell in front of him.

And he acted, like most people do, in the heat of the moment.

It's not that rare for people to have spurts of good, spurts of bad and a whole lot of nothing that defines their life.

He's not a good man nor a terrible man but just a man who occasionally makes bad decisions and good decisions but like most of us,just lets life happen to himself and is left to deal with what he has done.

[randome]

1. Well said.

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[nolabear]

2. If there's no ability to recognize that we can do good and we can do bad, we're scrod.

[LanternWaste]

3. Who said he was not human like the rest of us?

Who said he was not human like the rest of us?

[WCGreen]

5. People sometimes are quick to call someone a hero or a cad before realizing they are

just like the rest of us.

[LanternWaste]

11. Being a cad or a hero does not deny being a human

Being a cad or a hero does not deny being a human. Who or where did someone state he does not appear to human like the rest of us?

[leftstreet]

4. Why is this guy getting so much attention?

Angel Cordero was on the scene first and kicked the door in.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/angel-cordero-amanda-berry-neighbor_n_3246169.html?utm_hp_ref=impact

[BainsBane]

6. How about leave him be

and quit talking about his personal business? I'm not going to justify domestic violence as somehow normal, as you seem to be doing in this OP, but I also don't think Ramsey's past convictions are any of my business.

[WCGreen]

9. Come on, do you really think that I am being casual with domestic violence...

I'm simply pointing out that people often operate in the heat of the moment, usually without thinking. Bad things often happen and occasionally good things happen.

Beside that, the whole purpose of the post was exactly what you said, in other words.

[BainsBane]

10. I see a contradiction

in posting a thread and saying leave him alone. Of course I'm posting in your thread, so I'm guilty of the same.

As for the domestic violence bit, you write: " And he acted, like most people do, in the heat of the moment." His heat of the moment was criminal. I sure hope that isn't like most people here. I don't know the circumstances of his convictions, nor do I want to. The only conceivable purpose I can see it serves is for any women thinking about dating him. That, however, doesn't justify national news coverage. On that, I agree with you.

[WCGreen]

15. I served on the board of a Batered womens shelter for two years...

Here in Cleveland.

We explored a lot of people who got caught up in the violence without ever thinking about it.

That was why I choose the word heat of the moment. We discovered that yes there were people that were pathologically spouse beaters but that most of the people who get caught up in the violence did so with no premeditation, that like most of the violence in this country is perpetrated with no thought and just happens because of the circumstance.

I was not making light of the situation just pointing out that a lot of people react instead of think and that is more likely than not in this case...

[LuvNewcastle]

7. This is a perfect example of what we do in our society.

We put people on a pedestal and then we knock them down. Hero-worship isn't healthy for the hero or the admirer. Situations like this make me glad that I'll probably live out my life in obscurity.

[randome]

8. Too late! On the Internet, there is no such thing as obscurity!

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[LuvNewcastle]

12. Damn that Facebook!

[LanternWaste]

13. On the other hand...

On the other hand...

"Greatness is never appreciated in youth, called pride in middle age, dismissed in old age, and reconsidered in death. Because we cannot tolerate greatness in our midst we do all we can to destroy it. " (JMS)

I rarely, if ever see actual 'hero worship'; though I often see both acclamation and recognition for the deeds others may take part it. Never worship though.

However, I do realize that the acclamations given to one may be translated as worship by another, but I attribute that the second line of the quote supplied...

[LuvNewcastle]

14. This case is a little different from most cases of 'heroism.'

He's just a working class black guy without a uniform. He wasn't exactly "worshiped," but he did have his day in the sun. Now we found out some unsavory things about him, so we can put him back in his proper place.