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CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:48 PM May 2013

Ah, I see you are back for MORE of the Friday Afternoon Challenge! Today: Inspiration!

These works inspired paintings by later artists. Can you identify the original work and the later ones?

...and what have I told you about cheating? Don’t.

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Ah, I see you are back for MORE of the Friday Afternoon Challenge! Today: Inspiration! (Original Post) CTyankee May 2013 OP
#1 - The Crucifixion of Bob jberryhill May 2013 #1
#1 is old, just not THAT old... CTyankee May 2013 #3
#3 inspired.... jberryhill May 2013 #2
You are actually closer than you think, in a way... CTyankee May 2013 #4
#6 is tricky jberryhill May 2013 #5
There is nothing new under the sun... CTyankee May 2013 #6
I wish it hadn't MattBaggins May 2013 #36
Ah, but he had another inspiration to create his MASTERPIECE... pinboy3niner May 2013 #37
#4: Goya - Majas on a Balcony pinboy3niner May 2013 #7
sounds like you know these two works...right? CTyankee May 2013 #8
I recognized both, but had to look up the connection pinboy3niner May 2013 #10
I remembered that Magritte when I putting this together...love Magritte... CTyankee May 2013 #12
No. 3 inspired Normal Rockwell. Brickbat May 2013 #9
and I just love it! Thanks... CTyankee May 2013 #11
I do, too. She's fantastic. Brickbat May 2013 #13
#6 is Theodora, from the Basilica of San Vitale. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #14
Sure is, but who was inspired by this mosaic and what did he paint as a result? CTyankee May 2013 #15
You got me there. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #16
Let me think. Klimt? Warren DeMontague May 2013 #17
that was fast! Klimt is right...which work of his? CTyankee May 2013 #18
To go any further I would have to cheat. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #19
It made a huge impression on Klimt. A major impact in the world of art, IMO... CTyankee May 2013 #20
A lot of Klimt's stuff looks like that, for sure. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #22
Here is the one that was a direct result... CTyankee May 2013 #25
It's Klimt's Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I pinboy3niner May 2013 #24
You can see this if you come to NYC at the Neue Galerie. CTyankee May 2013 #32
#5: Rubens - Deposition from the Cross (inspiration for Rembrandt) pinboy3niner May 2013 #21
I saw the Rubens in the Cathedral of Our Lady in Antwerp last October... CTyankee May 2013 #23
#2: Andrea Mantegna - Lamentation of Christ (aka Dead Christ or Lamentation over the Dead Christ) pinboy3niner May 2013 #26
try a century later than Mantegna... CTyankee May 2013 #27
Ah, thanks. Mantegna inspired The Dead Christ (1582) by Annibale Carracci. pinboy3niner May 2013 #29
good for you, Pinboy! You did your "homework." CTyankee May 2013 #30
#1 HINT: Inspired by a crucifix in a chapel for his later painting, this artist CTyankee May 2013 #28
I can't remember his name... jberryhill May 2013 #31
You may be confusing the school CTyankee is thinking of... pinboy3niner May 2013 #34
Bush? He flunked out of this one jberryhill May 2013 #45
#1 remains to be guessed. Another hint: This "school" was in a coastal section of France CTyankee May 2013 #33
#1 is The Crucifix of Trémalo, Pont-Aven, an anonymous wood sculpture that inspired Gaugin pinboy3niner May 2013 #35
I guess my hint helped! CTyankee May 2013 #38
Even with that, this was a tough one! pinboy3niner May 2013 #39
Holy Shit jberryhill May 2013 #44
What--you missed 'Escape, Evasion and Art Appreciation'? pinboy3niner May 2013 #46
ANSWERS: pinboy3niner May 2013 #40
thank you for doing this! CTyankee May 2013 #41
You're welcome pinboy3niner May 2013 #42
Thanks for the encouragement, Pinboy! CTyankee May 2013 #43
 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
1. #1 - The Crucifixion of Bob
Fri May 10, 2013, 04:53 PM
May 2013

#1 is an ancient work called "The Crucifixion of Bob" from about 500 BCE. It inspired the much later crucifixion of Jesus, and countless other artworks based on that.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
7. #4: Goya - Majas on a Balcony
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:09 PM
May 2013

The inspiration for Manet's The Balcony:



The Balcony is an 1868 oil painting by the French painter Édouard Manet and was exhibited at the Paris Salon of 1869. The painting depicts four figures. On the left is Berthe Morisot, who became in 1874 the wife of his brother, Eugène. In the centre is the painter Jean Baptiste Antoine Guillemet. On the right is Fanny Claus, a violist. The fourth figure is the background is possibly Leon Leenhoff, Manet's (step) son.[1] It was sold by Gustave Caillebotte in 1884 and is currently kept at the Musée d'Orsay, in Paris.

[edit] Inspiration and descriptionThe painting, inspired by The Majas at the balcony by Francisco Goya, was created at the same time and with the same purpose as The Lunch in the workshop. The three characters, who were all friends of Manet, seem to be disconnected from each other: while Berthe Morisot, on the left, looks like a romantic and inaccessible heroine, the young violinist Fanny Claus and the painter Antoine Guillemet seem to display indifference. The boy in the background is Manet's son, Léon. Just behind the railings, there are a hydrangea and a dog with a ball.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Balcony_(painting)


pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
10. I recognized both, but had to look up the connection
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:17 PM
May 2013

And discovered that Magritte also did a parody of the Manet using the same title:


Magritte, 'The Balcony'

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
9. No. 3 inspired Normal Rockwell.
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:17 PM
May 2013

He used Michelangelo's portrait of Isaiah at the Sistine Chapel for Rosie's pose (with "Mein Kampf" under her shoe).

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
24. It's Klimt's Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I
Fri May 10, 2013, 06:01 PM
May 2013

Once Warren ID'd the artist, it was easy to find by googling Klimt's works (which is not cheating). There seem to be more than one version, but I think this is the right one:



The "Golden Adele"

The Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I undoubtedly represents the culmination of Klimt's occupation with the portraiture of women. Inspired by the sixth-century mosaics of Empress Theodora that Klimt saw in Ravenna's Church of San Vitale, the painter created a monument to the glorification of female beauty, expending all the time and effort befitting an empress. Klimt's extensive use of gold leaf - while largely foregoing colour - and a deep awareness of artistic tradition combine to create the inimitable aura that sets the Viennese Jugendstil apart from similar artistic trends in other European centres. At the same time the detailed and finely delineated face of Adele Bloch-Bauer prevents the subject from disappearing into anonymity behind the universality of the picture.

http://www.austria.info/uk/art-culture/gustav-klimt-and-women-1545376.html


CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
32. You can see this if you come to NYC at the Neue Galerie.
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:32 AM
May 2013

I saw it last summer. The back story on this painting is fascinating....a new book entitled "The Lady in Gold" outlines the history, which you will find riveting...an incredible and sometimes horrifying tale, but with a good ending at long last, when it became part of the permanent collection (thanks to Ron Lauder) at the Galerie...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
21. #5: Rubens - Deposition from the Cross (inspiration for Rembrandt)
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:45 PM
May 2013
In 1611, the Arquebusiers - Antwerp's civic guard - commissioned a Descent from the Cross by their illustrious townsman Rubens for their altar in the cathedral. The dean of the guild at that time was Burgomaster Nicolaas Rockox, who appear in the painting. The Descent from the Cross is the second of Rubens's great altarpieces for the Antwerp Cathedral. It shows the Visitation, and the Presentation of the Temple on either side of the Descent from the Cross. (The first triptych of the Raising of the Cross was executed in 1611-12.) His rich painterly Baroque technique incorporated both elements of Venetian design and also the composition and lighting of the Roman period of Caravaggio. But the result is purely Flemish.

Although at first sight the themes presented in the triptych seem extremely wide-ranging, they are actually linked, for St Christopher was the Arquebusiers' patron saint. When the triptych was closed, all that worshippers could see was this scene from the legend of St Christopher, whose Greek name 'Christophorus' means 'Christ-bearer'. This fact forms the key to the entire painting, in which the friends and holy women in the centre panel, and Mary and Simeon in the wings are also 'Christ-bearers'.

http://www.wga.hu/frames-e.html?/html/r/rubens/11religi/07desce.html


Rembrandt, The Descent from the Cross:



Rembrandt received a commission from the court in about 1628 through Constantijn Huygens, secretary to the Prince of Orange, for five paintings of the Passion of Christ. The series started with the Raising of the Cross and Descent from the Cross. He was hired to create small versions of Rubens famous altarpieces in Antwerp, the Raising of the Cross and the Descent from the Cross. Huygens asked Rembrandt to produce paintings less than one-twenty-fifth the size of the Rubenses. It must also have been agreed between Huygens and Rembrandt that the artist would inset himself into the composition of the Descent from the Cross as one of the followers of Christ who eased the body to the ground. Originally the Descent from the Cross was intended to be part of a triptych but finally it became one of the five paintings in this series.

http://www.wga.hu/html_m/r/rembrand/12passio/02passio.html


CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
23. I saw the Rubens in the Cathedral of Our Lady in Antwerp last October...
Fri May 10, 2013, 05:59 PM
May 2013

It is paired with Rubens's magnificent "Elevation of the Cross." These two paintings are quite large. Very impressive. I was lucky to see the originals -- the museum where they usually are was under renovation. The cathedral had copies, but moved them somewhere else and put the originals in.

Unfortunately, the Rembrandt version, which is magnificent in other ways, is at the Hermitage and I don't see me going to Russia any time soon...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
26. #2: Andrea Mantegna - Lamentation of Christ (aka Dead Christ or Lamentation over the Dead Christ)
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:10 PM
May 2013

I haven't figured out whose work he inspired with this yet, but it may have been one of Botticelli's Lamentations or one by Andrea Solario. Perhaps others can help solve this.

The Lamentation of Christ (also known as the Lamentation over the Dead Christ, or the Dead Christ and other variants) is a painting of about 1480 by the Italian Renaissance artist Andrea Mantegna. While the dating of the piece is debated, it was completed between 1475 and 1501, probably in the early 1480s.[1] It portrays the body Christ supine on a marble slab. He is watched over by the Virgin Mary and Saint John whose cut-off profile is behind the Virgin Mary, who are weeping for his death.

The theme of the Lamentation of Christ is common in medieval and Renaissance art, although this treatment, dating back to a subject known as the Anointing of Christ is unusual for the period. Most Lamentations show much more contact between the mourners and the body. Rich contrasts of light and shadow abound, infused by a profound sense of pathos. The realism and tragedy of the scene are enhanced by the violent perspective, which foreshortens and dramatizes the recumbent figure, stressing the anatomical details: in particular, Christ's thorax. The holes in Christ's hands and feet, as well as the faces of the two mourners, are portrayed without any concession to idealism or rhetoric. The sharply drawn drapery which covers the corpse contributes to the dramatic effect. The composition places the central focus of the image on Christ's genitals - an emphasis often found in figures of Jesus, especially as an infant, in this period, which has been related to a theological emphasis on the Humanity of Jesus by Leo Steinberg and others.

Mantegna presented both a harrowing study of a strongly foreshortened cadaver and an intensely poignant depiction of a biblical tragedy. This painting is one of many examples of the artist's mastery of perspective. At first glance, the painting seems to display an exact perspective. However, careful scrutiny reveals that Mantegna reduced the size of the figure's feet, which, as he must have known, would cover much of the body if properly represented.[2]

Mantegna probably made this painting for his personal funerary chapel. It was found by his sons in his studio after his death and sold off to pay debts. The painting is now in the Pinacoteca di Brera of Milan, Italy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamentation_of_Christ_(Mantegna)


CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
27. try a century later than Mantegna...
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:18 PM
May 2013

I'm surprised that the one who was "inspired" wasn't listed in your research....

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pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
29. Ah, thanks. Mantegna inspired The Dead Christ (1582) by Annibale Carracci.
Fri May 10, 2013, 08:13 PM
May 2013

I probably missed it because I searched on the 'Lamentation' title instead of the 'Dead Christ' title.

CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
28. #1 HINT: Inspired by a crucifix in a chapel for his later painting, this artist
Fri May 10, 2013, 07:50 PM
May 2013

started a "school" here...there were some very interested American artists who joined him...

CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
33. #1 remains to be guessed. Another hint: This "school" was in a coastal section of France
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:11 AM
May 2013

in the late 19th century. However, the artist is much better known for his works in another part of the world.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
35. #1 is The Crucifix of Trémalo, Pont-Aven, an anonymous wood sculpture that inspired Gaugin
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:45 AM
May 2013

Paul Gauguin, The Yellow Christ:



The Yellow Christ (in French: Le Christ jaune) is a painting executed by Paul Gauguin in autumn 1889 in Pont-Aven. Together with The Green Christ, it is considered to be one of the key-works of Symbolism in painting.

Gauguin first visited Pont-Aven in 1886. He returned to the village in early 1888 to stay until mid-October, when he left to join Vincent van Gogh in Arles, for little more than two months. Early in 1889, Gauguin was back to Pont-Aven to stay there until spring 1890. It was only for a short visit in summer 1889 to Paris to see the Exposition universelle and to arrange the Volpini Exhibition that Gauguin interrupted this sojourn. Soon after his return to Pont-Aven he painted The Yellow Christ:

The Yellow Christ was painted by Gauguin at Pont Aven in 1889. It is a symbolic piece that shows the crucifixion of Christ taking place in nineteenth century northern France as Breton women are gathered in prayer. Gauguin relies heavily on bold lines to define his figures and reserves shading only for the women. The autumn palette of yellow, red and green in the landscape echoes the dominant yellow in the figure of Christ. The bold outlines and flatness of the forms in this painting are typical of the cloisonnist style.

A study done in pencil of the Yellow Christ is preserved in the Thyssen-Bornemisza Museum, and a sketch in watercolor in the collection Chapman in New York.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yellow_Christ


CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
38. I guess my hint helped!
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:38 AM
May 2013

I just learned about Pont-Aven a few weeks ago. I had no idea that was where he painted all those women in their Breton caps. I literally ran across the reference for the first time when I was researching Road Scholar trips to France. The connection with some American artists of the time was also a fascinating bit of art trivia...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
39. Even with that, this was a tough one!
Sat May 11, 2013, 02:56 PM
May 2013

After the hint, I looked at a ton of stuff on art movements and schools in France before finding a reference to the village in Brittany.

Thanks for another great Challenge, CTyankee.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
40. ANSWERS:
Sat May 11, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

Recap of solvers' answers (subject to correction by CTyankee if I screwed it up):

1. The Crucifix of Trémalo, Pont-Aven (artist unknown); inspired Paul Gauguin's
The Yellow Christ

2. Andrea Mantegna - Lamentation of Christ (aka Dead Christ or Lamentation over the Dead Christ); inspired Annibale Carracci's Dead Christ

3. Michelangelo - The Prophet Isaiah; inspired Norman Rockwell's Rosie the Riveter

4. Goya - Majas on a Balcony. inspired Manet's The Balcony (which inspired Magritte's parody, The Balcony)

5. Rubens - Deposition from the Cross; inspired Rembrandt's The Descent from the Cross

6. Theodora, detail of a Byzantine mosaic in Basilica of San Vitale, Ravenna; inspired Klimt's Portrait of Adele Bloch-Bauer I

CTyankee

(63,888 posts)
41. thank you for doing this!
Sat May 11, 2013, 04:23 PM
May 2013

I've actually considered developing this more fully as a lecture to present at our area's Institute for Learning in Retirement, but have reservations since my cred is not academically in art history (mine is an MA in Liberal Studies, altho my BA is in Fine Arts). This is a pretty heavily degreed retirement population here in New Haven...I'm a bit intimidated...

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
42. You're welcome
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:22 PM
May 2013

And I hope you go ahead with your lecture idea. It's less a matter of 'cred' than an interest and willingness to take it on. How many Art History Ph.D.s are stepping up to do that? It's a great idea, and you're fully capable of doing it. I say, go for it!

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