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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy response to a worried Democrat ...
It contains my analysis of what is going on ... and provides my message to the Hold em accountable Left and waivering Democrats ...
"At a time when the thugs should be really and truly not only down on the mat, but being ground into the fiber and foam of it, it appears their obstruction is their strong suit and it's their way of increasing their numbers in 2014. The Chained CPI is something that never should have been put forth by anyone seriously against it---he should have been forcing the thugs to stand in their truth and take their asswhippin' for it. In fact, any talk about touching SSI and Medicare should have been shut down. The fact that the thugs have an all out war against women on every front should be compelling him to reject any harebrained policy the thugs come up with with absolute derision."
I agree with the first part; but disagree with you conclusion.
Now IS when the thugs should really and truly not only be down on the mat, but being ground into the fiber and form of it. And they are ... but it's not the Left doing it. It is, exactly, BECAUSE the gop believes their obstruction is their strong suit and it's their way to increasing their numbers in 2014; but the polls indicate that it is not working.
Look at the polling, Democrats and the rest of the Left hate them; but more importantly, (and Ive written this so many times, all I have to do a push control-V) a solid plurality of Independent voters AND republican voters (a solid majority, when taken together) see the gop as the party unwilling to compromise; therefore, the reason nothing is getting done in Washington. In order to flip the House (because of gerrymandering) and expand the Senate in 2014, Democrats need this cohort of Independent voters and republican voters to either: vote Democratic (which is unlikely); to vote 3rd-party (which will reduce the gerrymandering effect, as it will dilute the gop vote more so than the Democratic vote); or to stay home.
Enter President Obamas Budget Proposal that included the CCPI
to the Left, its Hair On Fire time because NO REAL DEMOCRAT would ever propose cutting entitlement programs; but look at it from the POV of the target cohort
they see President Obama (and by extension, Democrats) as willing to move on entitlements IF the gop is willing to move on taxes (i.e., COMPROMISE). (It is only the Left that is viewing CCPI in isolation). And what is the cohort seeing
the gop continuing to refuse to compromise (thats what the polling is saying).
Does this strategy risk, disillusioned Democrats sitting home?
Well, yes. And some on the Left are, seemingly, doing everything in their power to make that happen, with their constant President Obama is (and by extension, Democrats are) sell-out devil(s) mantras, without pointing out that President Obama is not running for office, AND by not pointing out what Democrats (that ARE/will be running are actually saying
which goes from Pelosis, Well consider CCPI; BUT ONLY IF the gop GIVES on taxes to Markeys (and the majority of the Democratic Caucsus) Hell NO
Leave SS and Medicare alone.
While I, personally, think that the Pelosi/President Obama position is the wiser strategy, 18 months out from the election, as it continues to reinforce what the targeted cohort already believes
that the gop is unwilling to compromise, Democrats saying Hell NO! signals that SS and Medicare will not/cannot be touched.
So Message to the Hold em accountable Left and waivering Democrats:
Stop saying/promoting President Obamas Budget Proposal as merely CCPI (and a few other anti-Democratic positions) and help the Democratic Partys cause by, at a minimum, stating what the Democrats in Congress are actually saying!
GeorgeGist
(25,324 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)cross posted for exposure and comment.
Care to comment this time?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)That's bad form.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)care to comment on the post, rather than my bad form?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Had I wanted to comment on it, I would have commented when it was not a rerun. Holding your breath and repeating it again will probably not get you anything you did not get when you posted this in the past.
It's just more of your same old, this time it is actually the exact same thing, not just similar like most of your posts, but this is just a spamming of some post you liked better than the readers did.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)You have nothing to refute my analysis.
Thanks.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)The republicans are showing out, they are in rare form. They actually don't notice that they are turning people off. The can't make inroads with minorities, or women, or anyone really. And they actually think Benghazi is going to win them an election 3 years from now. At least they are unified in their demise. They are failing to come up with a coherent message. It's all talking points and word salad.
I trust my president more than I have trusted any other. I mean, imagine, President Mitt Romney?
If I get mad at Obama, I just think about how Bush would have handled the same situation. Then I feel a little better.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)I look forward to others responding/commenting.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)Good form 1StrongBlackMan!
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)It's now going to be seen as something that Democrats think is a good idea, otherwise it wouldn't have been in Obama's budget. The Republicans are going to make sure of that.
You are basing your strategic thinking on political sophistication on the part of the electorate, in my view that's not a reasonable expectation.
If the Republicans are good at anything at all it's pounding a message out to the public with an intensity and single mindedness so extreme I can't even think of a sufficiently strong simile for it. They don't care whether the message is true or not, all it has be is remotely plausible if you squint hard enough at it, repetition will do the trick of convincing a lot of voters it's true.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)But that ignores what Democrats have actually said. Plus, as the mid-terms approach, Democrats will have plenty of opportunities to say: "Hell No! Don't touch 'entitlements'." (if they are in a Blue district) Or, "let's talk about CCPI, BUT ONLY IF the gop will GIVE on revenue."
I agree ... but the republican audience that the gop reaches is NOT the cohort that we need to swing ... they are already leaning our way.