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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:48 PM May 2013

Pure Speculation Question re a Biden or Clinton presidency in 2016

How likely is it that a President Clinton or President Biden will take a harder line stance on the Bush administration, from Bush on down, for their 9/11 failures, taking us to war based on lies, and war crimes committed?

The Obama administrations have proven to be hesitant to take any actions in this respect, but I wonder whether a third in a row Democratic presidency will breathe new life into these options.

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Pure Speculation Question re a Biden or Clinton presidency in 2016 (Original Post) matt819 May 2013 OP
Might as well re-open Watergate... Wounded Bear May 2013 #1
Different situation matt819 May 2013 #6
Hillary and Biden both voted for the war in Iraq. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #2
Exactly loyalsister May 2013 #5
i have no reason to believe Biden or Hillary would do anything different from Obama Enrique May 2013 #3
By that time, it will be far too late. MineralMan May 2013 #4

matt819

(10,749 posts)
6. Different situation
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:50 PM
May 2013

Watergate was dealt with. People went to jail. Nixon resigned.

Everyone associated with the 9/11 response is still walking free.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
2. Hillary and Biden both voted for the war in Iraq.
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:53 PM
May 2013

I have a feeling neither will risk putting themselves on trial as accomplices.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
5. Exactly
Sat May 11, 2013, 04:03 PM
May 2013

I wouldn't label them accomplices though. The hard fact is it was legally implemented via the legislative process. The US has no standing to prosecute the war or anything that was legally justified. The international community on the other hand did not pass those laws but, they can only find cause to prosecute war crimes based on the international conventions to which we are party.
Maybe Geneva treaty violations, but I think our lawmakers were most likely clever enough to avoid them.

We should never forget that everything Hitler did was legal, and our eye should be on the legislative process when our government considers war.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
3. i have no reason to believe Biden or Hillary would do anything different from Obama
Sat May 11, 2013, 03:59 PM
May 2013

I don't care how many times people present those two as our choices, I'll be looking for alternatives.

MineralMan

(146,285 posts)
4. By that time, it will be far too late.
Sat May 11, 2013, 04:01 PM
May 2013

Bush is long gone already. No US President will allow any prosecution of GWB or any other US President. It is simply not going to happen. Time to move on.

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