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(47,479 posts)
Sat May 11, 2013, 05:53 PM May 2013

Travels Changed Gates's View on Global Birth Control

SEATTLE—A little more than a year ago, Melinda Gates made a bold and controversial pledge to help women in the developing world get better access to contraception. It was an unexpected declaration from the practicing Catholic and co-chair with husband Bill of a private philanthropy better known for promoting vaccines and working to improve education. She was sharply criticized by Catholic groups that argue that global health and development funds should go to other causes.

In her travels across sub-Saharan and South Asia over more than a decade, Ms. Gates says she had seen the same scene play out over and over. Women she met with to talk about vaccines would ask her how they could get birth control. "They would say to me, 'But what about that shot I used to get?' " she said in an interview at the headquarters of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. The women were referring to Depo-Provera, she explained, an injectable contraceptive that they told her they like and walk miles to get—only to find often out of stock.

Now, one year later, Ms. Gates appears well on her way toward her goal. At a summit last summer hosted by the Gates Foundation and the U.K. Department for International Development, donors pledged $2.6 billion—$300 million more than the hosts had hoped to raise—to bring voluntary family planning services to 120 million more women in the world's poorest countries by 2020.

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Countries such as Senegal and Tanzania are investing money to improve contraceptive education and availability, Ms. Gates said. Senegal's public-health clinics and hospitals were plagued with stock shortages of contraceptives, but now a new system being introduced across the country has improved supply and variety of products.

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While she differs with the Catholic Church on contraceptive methods, she said she shares its social-justice mission. "I believe they're in the halls of Congress as much as I am fighting for foreign aid on behalf of poor people," she said.

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Travels Changed Gates's View on Global Birth Control (Original Post) question everything May 2013 OP
So why doesn't she take just a small percentage of her vast wealth and buy it? n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #1
I'm sure it's not a one-time thing. randome May 2013 #2
It is easy to detect one's level of commitment by what one is willing to do, Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #8
Do you understand what the population of this planet is? MineralMan May 2013 #22
Yes. Funding for the entire world is not the issue, read the piece. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #24
wow thanks lady gates elehhhhna May 2013 #3
"Lady Gates" and Sir Bill? lumberjack_jeff May 2013 #4
Maybe if enough wealthy Catholics speak out and act as Melinda Gates is doing, we JDPriestly May 2013 #5
Neither of them ever saw the inside of a public school except on a tour. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #9
You can say the same thing about any of the Kennedys yet they are still revered question everything May 2013 #10
I don't revere them or anybody except in cases where someone actually does something significant. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #13
You would be wrong about that. Ms. Toad May 2013 #11
Bill attended The Lakeside School before Harvard, Melinda is the heir to the Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #14
Bill. Ms. Toad May 2013 #15
Well I write corrected then. Although View Ridge is hardly anything like the majority Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #16
The school is not nameless. Ms. Toad May 2013 #17
No, I readily admitted that Bill attended one of America's best public elementary schools Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #19
I don't worship them - Ms. Toad May 2013 #20
Is your argument that the public school he attended wasn't shitty enough to make it 'real?' msanthrope May 2013 #18
That's how I take it. n/t Ms. Toad May 2013 #21
"working to improve education..." Rex May 2013 #6
Yup. Imagine if they were attempting to destroy it. Oh wait, they are. MichiganVote May 2013 #7
+1 leftstreet May 2013 #23
she had to travel to figure this out ? JI7 May 2013 #12
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
2. I'm sure it's not a one-time thing.
Sat May 11, 2013, 06:13 PM
May 2013

Contraception needs to be available forever, not just one year. Just a guess on my part.

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Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
8. It is easy to detect one's level of commitment by what one is willing to do,
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:15 PM
May 2013

rather than what one is anxious to say. She could do it and live to 110 without seeing her last billion.

MineralMan

(146,298 posts)
22. Do you understand what the population of this planet is?
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:40 AM
May 2013

What you are suggesting wouldn't cover the cost at all in areas of the world where it is most needed. Instead a global commitment is needed, not a one time donation. And that appears to be what she is working toward. No doubt, she will commit from her own funds. But that's not sufficient. It needs to be a global effort, funded by many, including those nations. One person cannot supply the world's needs for contraception.

Sorry, but you're letting your dislike for Gates color your point of view on this, I think.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
24. Yes. Funding for the entire world is not the issue, read the piece.
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:48 AM
May 2013

Additionally, I also understand how much a billion is and how much the mere accumulation of of it generates and they have access to almost a hundred billions. The Gate's could easily fund this, or any of the other good stuff they want, all by themselves if they were willing to deplete their capital reserves, but operating a tax-shelter foundation that pushes business to other for-profit interests is much more... profitable.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. Maybe if enough wealthy Catholics speak out and act as Melinda Gates is doing, we
Sat May 11, 2013, 07:14 PM
May 2013

will get a reasonable policy on birth control from the Catholic Church.

The Gates are Catholic. That explains why they back private schools instead of public schools.

Ughh!

One of the problems with charter and private schools is that they divide the kids in communities.

Here in my part of LA, we have a problem with violence. 12 shootings since last June on streets in our area.

This morning there was a peace march to stop this local violence. The public high school in the area was well represented, proudly represented. They are such good kids. Charter schools separate the kids. They aren't unified behind their community school. That is not a good thing. I don't think it is the cause of the violence, but let's try to bring people together and form communities, not separate them and form cliques and private clubs.

But it is wonderful that Melinda Gates is speaking out for contraception. I wish she would also speak out for public, community schools.

question everything

(47,479 posts)
10. You can say the same thing about any of the Kennedys yet they are still revered
Sat May 11, 2013, 09:11 PM
May 2013

by progressives everyplace.

One does not have to be progressive and empathetic by actually experiencing hardship; one can become one by using one's brain and heart. This is what separates us, liberals, from conservatives who look only at themselves until... they do need help from a government agency.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
13. I don't revere them or anybody except in cases where someone actually does something significant.
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:46 PM
May 2013

It's hard to compare because of the changing times, but JFK and RFK seemed to be on the right track, but Teddy was frequently a disappointment.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. Bill attended The Lakeside School before Harvard, Melinda is the heir to the
Sat May 11, 2013, 11:50 PM
May 2013

First Interstate fortune. Just which one of these trust fund babies ever attended public school, and please be specific?

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
15. Bill.
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:30 AM
May 2013

He was 13 when he entered Lakeside School. Prior to that he attended View Ridge Elementary School, which is part of the public school system in Seattle Washington.

And, while Melinda did not attend public schools, prior to high school she attended a Catholic School which was the equivalent of the ones attended by many working class Catholic families (including all of my spouses' families).

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
16. Well I write corrected then. Although View Ridge is hardly anything like the majority
Sun May 12, 2013, 09:34 AM
May 2013

of public elementary schools, especially in the mid 60s, it is a public school.

Your claim that the nameless school Melinda attended is equivalent to your neighborhood Catholic school is unlikely. The parasite class doesn't live in this world they made, they wouldn't like it any more than the rest of us do.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
17. The school is not nameless.
Sun May 12, 2013, 09:55 AM
May 2013

You can do research as well as I can - but instead of checking out the facts you choose to continue to slam people for their imagined sins.

She went to St Monica School in Dallas Tx.

The current tuition in grades Grades K - 8:

1 child $ 6,485
2 children $ 11,900
3 children $ 15,900
4 + children $ 18,200

Others in Dallas: Christ the King $7560/year; Holy Trinity $5210, Mary Immaculate $5180 (here's the list - I hit the first three with working website links. Knock yourself out verifying that I haven't cherry-picked.)

And now that your claim that neither one of them ever set foot in a public school is debunked, you claim the public school that Bill Gates attended isn't bad enough for your standards of a public school, so it doesn't really count as attending a public school. Give me a break.

You'd probably be a lot happier if you knocked that chip off your shoulder.


 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
19. No, I readily admitted that Bill attended one of America's best public elementary schools
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:10 AM
May 2013

until the ripe old age of 12, but your pathetic attempt to paint these scions of power as anything but the ruling class parasites they were born to be is just sad.

I am most gratified that you are concerned with my happiness, but really, it's not at all necessary. We're quite happy and being white, middle aged, well-educated and well-spoken, we will continue to do better than most.

But feel free to worship those that live in a world you pay for but are excluded from, and don't forget to read the sig line.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
20. I don't worship them -
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:26 AM
May 2013

But accuracy is important to me. Your insistence that neither one of them ever set foot inside a public school based on how you imagine all people with privileged act was not accurate. When proven wrong as to one, you insisted the school the other attended must have been far more prestigious that schools available to the average Catholic family. That was wrong as well.

And you do seem to have a chip on your shoulder based on how you imagine all people with money live, rather than the reality of the choices the parents of these two made in raising their children.

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
18. Is your argument that the public school he attended wasn't shitty enough to make it 'real?'
Sun May 12, 2013, 10:04 AM
May 2013

How intriguing.

 

MichiganVote

(21,086 posts)
7. Yup. Imagine if they were attempting to destroy it. Oh wait, they are.
Sat May 11, 2013, 08:08 PM
May 2013

Oh well, what's a tour in the US among lower to middle class families who have depended on public education for decades to help their kids be successful in life compared to worldwide tours in private jets receiving honors among foreign dignitaries anyway. And to be fair, how much could she really expect to write off on her taxes taking a jaunt around the main streets of the real US.

Here's a clue Melinda Gates: Social Justice Jesus just isn't a church priority and hasn't been one since the 70's.

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