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jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:37 AM May 2013

FBI surrounds house of Saudi student following sightings of him with pressure cooker pot, only to fi

FBI surrounds house of Saudi student following sightings of him with pressure cooker pot, only to find he was cooking rice


A Saudi student living in Michigan was questioned in his home by FBI agents after neighbours saw him carrying a pressure cooker and called the police.

Talal al Rouki had been cooking a traditional Saudi Arabian rice dish called kabsah and was carrying it to a friend's house.

According to reports in a Saudi newspaper on Friday, the FBI are increasingly vigilant about 'pressure cooker' home-made bombs after the Boston bombers used one to make an explosiv

The Saudi journal, Oukaz reported on the story of the Saudi student who had FBI agents come to his home, following a tip-off from neighbours that he was seen moving about with a pressure cooker bomb.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323316/FBI-surrounds-house-Saudi-student-following-sightings-pressure-cooker-pot-cooking-rice.html

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FBI surrounds house of Saudi student following sightings of him with pressure cooker pot, only to fi (Original Post) jakeXT May 2013 OP
I think I'll buy a pressure cooker before they become illegal or impossible to get. Cobalt Violet May 2013 #1
full disclosure Enrique May 2013 #7
If pressure cookers are outlawed only outlaws will have pressure cookers. Cobalt Violet May 2013 #78
A lot them are really just crockpots with aesthetic enhancements anyway. DirkGently May 2013 #89
Yes. I plan to stick with my crockpot. JDPriestly May 2013 #92
Ours has a laser sight & tactical grips. But it's only for cooking DirkGently May 2013 #95
They have electric ones now Mojorabbit May 2013 #103
As I recall, the frightening part was the steam when you took the lid off. JDPriestly May 2013 #109
Those were the very old ones! I have one like that I do canning in. Mojorabbit May 2013 #134
A lot of grandmas will be terrorists. LiberalFighter May 2013 #99
Army cooks died for your right to keep and bear pressure cookers! nt bananas May 2013 #118
First they came for the pressure cookers and I did nothing...nt Javaman May 2013 #139
Does anybody have a program to print a pressure cooker on a 3D printer yet? BlueStreak May 2013 #38
You might be able to buy one at a pressure-cooker show... KansDem May 2013 #105
Only a good person with a pressure cooker can stop a bad person with a pressure cooker. n/t FourScore May 2013 #122
STOP HER BEFORE SHE COOKS!! Javaman May 2013 #138
They'll have to pry my pressure cooker out of my cold dead hands... Javaman May 2013 #137
Of course, after Cleveland, the altmedia bashed law enforcement for not being proactive graham4anything May 2013 #2
Pressure cookers and naked women on leashes are pretty much the same thing toddaa May 2013 #9
LOL, so true. He is on a roll as usual! n-t Logical May 2013 #11
The people in Boston might say the pressure cooker was a helleva lot worse graham4anything May 2013 #12
Calling the police RIGHT NOW toddaa May 2013 #18
Oh Crap Half-Century Man May 2013 #48
Did you just google "pressure cookers quran"? toddaa May 2013 #57
.......no......... Half-Century Man May 2013 #67
um, anyone paying attention could have predicted it... zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #22
Fox television did... nebenaube May 2013 #25
I didn't watch the XFiles, They stole it from Kolchak the conspiracy theorist graham4anything May 2013 #28
I find it ironic that you can't suspend disbelief Cal Carpenter May 2013 #115
Conspiracy like the "libruls r gonna buy all our bullets!" one you pushed? Bonobo May 2013 #127
Reintrerpret the 2nd. ALl it takes is ONE vote. In President Obama I trust graham4anything May 2013 #131
btw, this is ad hominem redux.however, if you want me to say my angle-(thought i had) graham4anything May 2013 #132
"[W]ho in their right mind would have concieved that 19 people would be able to carry out..." Ezlivin May 2013 #75
Gary Hart did bananas May 2013 #119
Gary Hart proves here that OBL and the 19 did it. End of conspiracy theories. OBL did it. graham4anything May 2013 #133
I have a naked pressure cooker on a leash in my backyard - any issues ? n/t CincyDem May 2013 #61
Yes, I believe you have serious issues toddaa May 2013 #66
Who are you... CincyDem May 2013 #83
Who knows what evil plot lurks in the mind of a twisted BDSM foodie? toddaa May 2013 #86
My typical Saturday night awoke_in_2003 May 2013 #91
Yep - we've always said pressure cookers were gateway appliances. Stop them and it all stops. n/t CincyDem May 2013 #111
What you are doing is appliance porn, and porn is a bit of hot-button topic here....nt msanthrope May 2013 #96
A million dead from a pressure cooker bomb? Where do you come up with this crap? You.... Logical May 2013 #10
I don't like my friends and neighbors getting blown up or shot graham4anything May 2013 #14
Really? When did your freinds and neighbors get blown up or shot? Rex May 2013 #27
Our neighborhood lost many from 9-11. Do you want to visit their memorials and graves? graham4anything May 2013 #34
Yes, I would like to visit those memorials and graves, Heidi May 2013 #77
Under your twisted logic, if I see a middle eastern man walking out of the Bed, Bath and Beyond.... Logical May 2013 #17
I think it is all an act. Rex May 2013 #30
Great point. It seems so out of touch that maybe he is just messing with us. n-t Logical May 2013 #36
Are you calling Poe? toddaa May 2013 #41
. Bonobo May 2013 #128
Being due beer, travel money and experiences helps... Democracyinkind May 2013 #87
you can buy pressure cookers at bb&b? HiPointDem May 2013 #88
I'd presume. They sell kitchen items there. Chan790 May 2013 #100
Here you go..... Logical May 2013 #113
"better a little inconvience than a million dead." Rex May 2013 #24
Yes, let's call the cops every time someone walks outside with a pressure cooker. Apophis May 2013 #47
Your grandmother is safe unless she looks like -- you know -- one of THOSE people. Jim Lane May 2013 #73
Well, my grandma is black, so yeah. Apophis May 2013 #120
Your grandma's chicken sounds yummy! Brigid May 2013 #110
"better a little inconvience[sic] than a million dead" I think that's a Georgie Bush quote. rhett o rick May 2013 #80
"A million dead?" Just how big was this fucking pressure cooker? DirkGently May 2013 #94
I think I'm going to start woolldog May 2013 #3
We blast people for not paying attention. LisaL May 2013 #4
I'm glad they were wrong, but can you imagine the uproar had the situation been real.... Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #81
Quickly adding that dish to "must try" folder. Lars39 May 2013 #5
Same here. surrealAmerican May 2013 #79
"Uh, sir? The WMD appears to be full of...rice." pinboy3niner May 2013 #6
Depending on what he's cooking, Hayabusa May 2013 #20
If it's my red beans and rice Aerows May 2013 #53
"Uh, sir? The WMD appears to be full of...rice 'n beans." krispos42 May 2013 #21
"Ricin beans? Quick, check his Elvis impression!" pinboy3niner May 2013 #23
Or his Taekwondo skills? DirkGently May 2013 #97
*groan* krispos42 May 2013 #135
? Half-Century Man May 2013 #42
Here we fucking go. How long before needing to show ID to buy one? Over reaction as usual! n-t Logical May 2013 #8
Been seeing calls for them to be tracked or licensed even around here Posteritatis May 2013 #62
It is crazy! n-t Logical May 2013 #65
And this kind of stupidity is why they are incompetent to protect us. bemildred May 2013 #13
Boston started with somebody buying and on the street carrying two of them graham4anything May 2013 #16
If "police and law enforcement" want a better rep with the unwashed masses, bemildred May 2013 #35
More security everywhere would stop more things. Of that we agree on. graham4anything May 2013 #37
Well, not "everywhere", but we agree it has it's place. bemildred May 2013 #45
Rather like the time Frank Burns spotted some Koreans burying a kimchi pot Orrex May 2013 #15
+37 burnodo May 2013 #90
Why do you need a pressure cooker to make rice?...... wandy May 2013 #19
You don't have to use a pressure cooker - but for the recipe he was using csziggy May 2013 #39
You are the FIRST person, in all this rice/pressure cooker insanity, to inquire as to why truth2power May 2013 #129
looks like the terrorists won burnodo May 2013 #26
Confession time: SoCalDem May 2013 #29
Why does anyone need a pressure cooker arsenal? nt dairydog91 May 2013 #40
Uh? Half-Century Man May 2013 #44
I have a huge one I use for canning Retrograde May 2013 #56
I've got one about that size for canning Ednahilda May 2013 #64
I have four! Two I inherited. nt Mojorabbit May 2013 #106
The 8 qt I bought..the 4 & 6 I inherited too SoCalDem May 2013 #123
We've got at least three, too. MADem May 2013 #117
. Iggo May 2013 #31
white person with pressure cooker treestar May 2013 #32
Good thing, I guess, that my Pakistani friend bought one 6 months ago. elleng May 2013 #33
Racism and Security Theatre dairydog91 May 2013 #43
ruh roh, those macrobiotic people better watch themselves graywarrior May 2013 #46
Humans really aren't smart enough for life, generally speaking. Schema Thing May 2013 #49
Was it an Assault pressure cooker? RetroLounge May 2013 #50
Famous But Incompetent BeyondGeography May 2013 #51
I'd love for this to make me feel good. Half-Century Man May 2013 #52
When pressure cookers are outlawed Betsy Ross May 2013 #54
Now we won't be able to take PRESSURE COOKERS on airplanes for crying out loud Voice for Peace May 2013 #55
Not even my carrion pressure cooker? pinboy3niner May 2013 #59
your carrion has to fit under your seat, or be in the checked luggage. Voice for Peace May 2013 #63
I had a cartoon once....there was some sort of vulture walking toward an airport boarding gate truth2power May 2013 #130
Cooking While Saudi. Jamastiene May 2013 #58
+1. Crazy icky paranoia... nt riderinthestorm May 2013 #69
Don't know for certain, but to me this looks like a possible explosive.. DreamGypsy May 2013 #60
2 questions Half-Century Man May 2013 #71
Kind of looks like paella. Brigid May 2013 #112
OMG--that 2nd pic!!! They're doing the right hand bread dip routine! MADem May 2013 #124
We would not want the smoking gun to come in the form of a pilaf NoPasaran May 2013 #68
Thread win. (nt) DirkGently May 2013 #98
Well, everybody knows that nobody but crazed Arabian Jihadis eat rice. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #70
I have a crock pot. I think that's only a misdemeanor. Buns_of_Fire May 2013 #72
It only rises to a felony and a trip to Guantanamo if you cook rice in it. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #74
Wow! Politicalboi May 2013 #76
Message to Muslims get the red out May 2013 #82
So was it a rice cooker? BainsBane May 2013 #84
Very common in SW Asia to use pressure cooker for rice if one doesn't have reliable electricity. MADem May 2013 #108
well, i hope this guy learned an important lesson orleans May 2013 #85
what's funny is DonCoquixote May 2013 #93
Guns good - Pressure cookers bad! liberal N proud May 2013 #101
Did he carry it in a backpack? Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #102
Pressure cookers are VERY POPULAR in southwest Asia and in the Arab world. MADem May 2013 #104
I was looking online for a replacement rubber ring GentryDixon May 2013 #107
This thread will probably tie up a half-dozen FBI agents for the next three weeks MannyGoldstein May 2013 #114
That makes the whole thing worth while toddaa May 2013 #116
Good plan pinboy3niner May 2013 #121
Oh shit, back on the list for me, then... MADem May 2013 #125
I'm not worried about pressure cookers defacto7 May 2013 #126
Man from Saudi Arabia arrested at Detroit airport with pressure cooker jakeXT May 2013 #136
TERRORIST rice. You can never be too safe. Fire Walk With Me May 2013 #140

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
1. I think I'll buy a pressure cooker before they become illegal or impossible to get.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

Been meaning to get one anyway. I just haven't had any luck finding a large non-aluminum one.

Cobalt Violet

(9,905 posts)
78. If pressure cookers are outlawed only outlaws will have pressure cookers.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:35 PM
May 2013

And the only way to stop a bad guy with a pressure cooker is a good guy with a pressure cooker.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
92. Yes. I plan to stick with my crockpot.
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:31 PM
May 2013

My mother cooked with a pressure cooker. Scared me out of the kitchen.

Crock pots are safer. Use the right spices and they make the house smell good too.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
103. They have electric ones now
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:30 PM
May 2013

that are very safe. Put on the lid, set the times and dinner begins cooking.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
109. As I recall, the frightening part was the steam when you took the lid off.
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:41 PM
May 2013

My mother had to rinse the entire pot (which was very heavy) in cold tap water before starting cautiously to take the lid off. Pretty scary.

Mojorabbit

(16,020 posts)
134. Those were the very old ones! I have one like that I do canning in.
Mon May 13, 2013, 11:08 AM
May 2013

There is nothing like them for certain dishes so I was so happy when they came out with the electric style you don't have to babysit.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
105. You might be able to buy one at a pressure-cooker show...
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:32 PM
May 2013

...or perhaps from a private party where size doesn't matter.

Check the Internets!

Javaman

(62,521 posts)
137. They'll have to pry my pressure cooker out of my cold dead hands...
Mon May 13, 2013, 03:27 PM
May 2013

If I'm not able to make my mom's recipe for stuffed cabbage anymore!

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
2. Of course, after Cleveland, the altmedia bashed law enforcement for not being proactive
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:43 AM
May 2013

seems in the hate everybody world of the media, the media will bash law enforcement for saving a little kitten in a tree if it fits their soundbytes.

can't win no matter which way it is done.

better a little inconvience than a million dead.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
12. The people in Boston might say the pressure cooker was a helleva lot worse
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:01 PM
May 2013

After all, in 2000, if someone said can I fly a Jet into the top floors of the WTC, they would have figured one was talking about going to JFK, taking a cab to manhattan and a train downtown to the WTC and an elevator to the top floors

who in their right mind would have concieved that 19 people would be able to carry out the plans of one terrorist OBL and his orders?

If the police department busted down doors in Cleveland, the same hate the police people(though they call them cops), (including the Oliver-North Freeing ACLU)would have screamed bloody murder.

If something seems wrong, report it.
Then don't bash the police/law enforcement for doing their job.

the life it saves may be yours.

toddaa

(2,518 posts)
18. Calling the police RIGHT NOW
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:14 PM
May 2013

There's one in my cupboard, and I've got a copy of the Quran on a bookshelf in the basement.

HOLY SHIT, I'M A FUCKING TERRORIST!!!


"Land of the Safe and the Home of the Meek."

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
67. .......no.........
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:40 PM
May 2013

I just know I can. I guess this is bomb making materials for becoming a cyberterrorist?

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
28. I didn't watch the XFiles, They stole it from Kolchak the conspiracy theorist
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:40 PM
May 2013

can you believe Kolchak found a monster a week, every week?
Sheesh

maybe one conspiracy but one a week, every single week???

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
115. I find it ironic that you can't suspend disbelief
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:54 PM
May 2013

about a TV show but can do so quite readily when it comes to reality.

Bonobo

(29,257 posts)
127. Conspiracy like the "libruls r gonna buy all our bullets!" one you pushed?
Mon May 13, 2013, 03:21 AM
May 2013

You were on here trying to insert the idea that we should buy up all bullets to "thwart" the NRA...

Miraculously, a week later, I heard on Rachel Maddow that Rightwingers were advancing the Conspiracy Theory that liberals were going to buy up all bullets.

Until then, it was a little less clear what your game and agenda were.

In other words, people who plant CT's have no place to really complain about CT's do they?

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
131. Reintrerpret the 2nd. ALl it takes is ONE vote. In President Obama I trust
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:16 AM
May 2013

That was a sane suggestion

can't help it if Rachel reads here and parrots my views ( I don't listen to Rachel and that red faced guy who is going to have a stroke if he don't calm down, Ed the republican),anymore as she and Ed lost me after the first debate.

I only listen to Rev. Al Sharpton, who has never lied to me.

But, what is wrong with that idea?
There is a finite # of bullets manufactured, and they could be all bought up.

Though reinterpreting the 2nd is easier and shall happen when Hillary45 is president.

But Rush once said, President Obama is going to annhiliate the republican party at the polling booths.
Damn right he is(and all the extremist no matter what political party).

After all, it's 80-20.
President Obama ran on someday putting the people back in unity.
80-20

and let's all render the extremists politically obsolete.

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In President Obama, I trust.(pun intended.)

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
132. btw, this is ad hominem redux.however, if you want me to say my angle-(thought i had)
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:21 AM
May 2013

however, my angle (we all have angles, what's yours?)
Is to render the 50-50 a media and alt-media 100% lie

America can and will be an 80-20 society

so again, render the 50-50 a lie, and make the 20% extremists obsolete in the voting booth,
so that the 80% can live in peace from the draconians who the people time and again have voted they are not interested in.

President Obama and Hillary Clinton have a 90% plus favorable rating in the democratic party
and the vast majority of America supports both

It's time for positive outlooks and let's all work together for peace love and harmony
(which is after all what the Summer of Love was about.

It was together and unity, not negativity and obstruction

It was working together

and it takes a village to make it happen

Agenda? Sure, working to make Barack Obama's agenda last forever.

What democratic supporter wouldn't want that?

After all, the democratic supporters and core voters like myself elected President Obama to landslide victories twice

And Hillary45 will win 100million votes and 475plus electoral votes.

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
75. "[W]ho in their right mind would have concieved that 19 people would be able to carry out..."
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:20 PM
May 2013

Pretty much everyone who briefed Bush before 9/11.

Yet the man and all of his cronies are free to walk the streets.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
119. Gary Hart did
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:57 AM
May 2013
http://www.salon.com/2004/04/02/hart_4/

Richard Clarke was not the only national security expert who warned National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration officials about terrorist threats before 9/11. Former Democratic Sen. Gary Hart of Colorado also directly told senior Bush officials loudly and clearly that, in his words, “The terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming.”

Hart was co-chair (with former Sen. Warren Rudman, R-N.H.) of the U.S. Commission on National Security, a bipartisan panel that conducted the most thorough investigation of U.S. security challenges since World War II. After completing the report, which warned that a devastating terrorist attack on America was imminent and called for the immediate creation of a Cabinet-level national security agency, and delivering it to President Bush on January 31, 2001, Hart and Rudman personally briefed Rice, Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell. But, according to Hart, the Bush administration never followed up on the commission’s urgent recommendations, even after he repeated them in a private White House meeting with Rice just days before 9/11.

<snip>
 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
133. Gary Hart proves here that OBL and the 19 did it. End of conspiracy theories. OBL did it.
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:31 AM
May 2013

One thing interesting in-

the alt-media says 9-11 didn't happen by OBL,

here is proof it did.

NO conspiracy theory. Just fact.

OBL hired 19 people to crash into the WTC, the capitol and the White House.

no conspiracy.

Just no connecting the dots.

So Gary Hart himself proved OBL did it.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
83. Who are you...
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:57 PM
May 2013

...to judge how I dress my pressure cooker ? I thought this place was accepting of diversity !

toddaa

(2,518 posts)
86. Who knows what evil plot lurks in the mind of a twisted BDSM foodie?
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:26 PM
May 2013

One day you are flogging a pressure cooker, the next you are wrapping your microwave in latex.

CincyDem

(6,355 posts)
111. Yep - we've always said pressure cookers were gateway appliances. Stop them and it all stops. n/t
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:54 PM
May 2013
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
10. A million dead from a pressure cooker bomb? Where do you come up with this crap? You....
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:58 AM
May 2013

love police authority way to much. You might be on the wrong forums.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
14. I don't like my friends and neighbors getting blown up or shot
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:04 PM
May 2013

just to play highschool debate?

Many others agree, however, they just ignore and won't argue with me.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
27. Really? When did your freinds and neighbors get blown up or shot?
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:40 PM
May 2013

You have no argument, just some silly statements that people are calling you on. But you knew this already.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
34. Our neighborhood lost many from 9-11. Do you want to visit their memorials and graves?
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:42 PM
May 2013

sheesh
ad hominem me again.

and my sister lived in one of the towns in Boston where those fameseeking thrill killers died.
NO they were not admirable. Just two losers looking for 10 minutes of fame like the man who killed John Lennon

Heidi

(58,237 posts)
77. Yes, I would like to visit those memorials and graves,
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:29 PM
May 2013

as would many of your DU friends, I'm sure. Please list them or PM them to all of us. Thank you in advance!

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
17. Under your twisted logic, if I see a middle eastern man walking out of the Bed, Bath and Beyond....
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:11 PM
May 2013

today with a 2 Pressure Cookers I should call the police JUST IN CASE he might be a terrorist. And the police should pull him over and investigate. And when the police pull him over his response should be "None of your fucking business officer, am I being detained?"

How do you function being that paranoid all the time?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
100. I'd presume. They sell kitchen items there.
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:11 PM
May 2013

They have an extensive kitchenware section...it's where I bought my Wusthof professional-grade knives. I also have bought an espresso machine, a sodastream, a wok, two rice cookers, a deep fryer and some harder-to-find types of pans there.

 

Apophis

(1,407 posts)
47. Yes, let's call the cops every time someone walks outside with a pressure cooker.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:01 PM
May 2013

My grandma uses one. She'll bring it to our house to make her famous chicken.

Go ahead and call the cops on my grandma.

umb:

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
73. Your grandmother is safe unless she looks like -- you know -- one of THOSE people.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:08 PM
May 2013

If the guy in the OP hadn't had an Arab appearance, I don't think anything would have happened.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
80. "better a little inconvience[sic] than a million dead" I think that's a Georgie Bush quote.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:43 PM
May 2013

I am surprised you didnt say, "better a little inconvience[sic] than a mushroom cloud".

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
4. We blast people for not paying attention.
Sun May 12, 2013, 11:45 AM
May 2013

In this case it seems they did-although they did turn out to be wrong.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
81. I'm glad they were wrong, but can you imagine the uproar had the situation been real....
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:53 PM
May 2013

and they didn't investigate these tips? Law enforcement is sometimes in a lose-lose predicament. Like the tips on the recently freed hostages, that apparently went uninvestigated, they'd be facing a torrent of criticism and probably disciplinary action.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
21. "Uh, sir? The WMD appears to be full of...rice 'n beans."
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:31 PM
May 2013

"Ricin???????"



<insert massive police freak-out here>

Posteritatis

(18,807 posts)
62. Been seeing calls for them to be tracked or licensed even around here
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:34 PM
May 2013

And that's before getting into buddy upthread who seems to think a pressure cooker is a nuclear weapon.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
13. And this kind of stupidity is why they are incompetent to protect us.
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:03 PM
May 2013

They are good at entrapment, good at harassing people based on how they look, but finding the smart ones, the ones that don't look funny, that nobody reports, that know the score, the ones we REALLY need to find, not so much.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
16. Boston started with somebody buying and on the street carrying two of them
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:07 PM
May 2013

yet the police and law enforcement were bashed by the alt media in Boston and Cleveland and everywhere else

I guess in the altmedia world, anarchy and no rules and no lawenforcement would work fine
(the NRA would love it, only guns by anarchists would decide in the no law enforcement world of anarchy and protest and anything goes

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
35. If "police and law enforcement" want a better rep with the unwashed masses,
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:42 PM
May 2013

they need to treat the unwashed masses better than they currently do. As long as they make it their business to suck up to the rich and abuse the safely non-rich, you can't really expect the non-rich to be that enthused about them.

But in any case, that's not my problem, I'm just trying to help them understand where they are going wrong in combatting terror, letting all these mass killings and attacks happen.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
45. Well, not "everywhere", but we agree it has it's place.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:00 PM
May 2013

I expect to be watched when I'm out in public, or on the Internet. You should put your public face on and behave in public, if you can.

The internet is a very useful cesspool, which makes it an interesting problem too, but I don't have an answer to that one. When I consider the love-hate relationship we have with it, I think of the story about the monkey who won't let go of the rice to get his hand out of the cocoanut before the human comes and catches him. We love the money, we hate the transparency and inability to control the flow of information.

At my home minding my own business is a different matter, there I expect to be left alone (unless I'm keeping a few girls in the cellar or something of that seriousness, not just for jerking myself off in any of the many theoretically illegal ways our society is so eager to provide.)

It's not that I cannot sympathize with LEO in this country, but they need to suck it up and take some responsibility for their situation too, it is their doing too, if they want to fix their image, they need to step up, just like anybody else.

Orrex

(63,207 posts)
15. Rather like the time Frank Burns spotted some Koreans burying a kimchi pot
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:06 PM
May 2013

When pressure cookers are outlawed, then only outlaws will use pressure cookers.



wandy

(3,539 posts)
19. Why do you need a pressure cooker to make rice?......
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:21 PM
May 2013

This question has nothing to do with weponising pressure cookers.
Why are we making rice so complicated.

Place 1 cup of rice in small pot.
Add water sufficient to reach from the top of the rice to the first joint of you're index filter.
Cover and heat on high until boiling.
Keeping covered reduce heath to minimum.
Wait seven minutes.

I'll confess to being one of those people that think things like deep fryers and pressure cookers should never be used indoors.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
39. You don't have to use a pressure cooker - but for the recipe he was using
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:47 PM
May 2013

A pressure cooker can be used, probably to speed up the time needed:

Meat for kabsa can be cooked in various ways. A popular way of preparing meat is called mandi. This is an ancient technique, whereby meat is barbecued in a deep hole in the ground that is covered while the meat cooks. Another way of preparing and serving meat for kabsa is mathbi, where seasoned meat is grilled on flat stones that are placed on top of burning embers. A third technique, madghūt, involves cooking the meat in a Pressure cooker.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabsah

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
129. You are the FIRST person, in all this rice/pressure cooker insanity, to inquire as to why
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:44 AM
May 2013

anyone needs a pressure cooker to make rice. Thank. You.

I eat a lot of rice, and I just cook mine in an ordinary saucepan, as you've described. Easy peasy! Sometimes I just can't understand why people make things so complicated.

In addition, NO ONE to my knowledge has mentioned that in order to can low-acid foods (vegetables/meats) you have to use a pressure canner. Otherwise you put yourself at risk of all kinds of nasty things like botulism.

Homeland Security is going to have their hands full this fall when people are canning the harvest from their vegetable gardens.




 

burnodo

(2,017 posts)
26. looks like the terrorists won
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:39 PM
May 2013

this is the country we've become...frightened little people looking for monsters everywhere

Retrograde

(10,136 posts)
56. I have a huge one I use for canning
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:26 PM
May 2013

Never measured the capacity, but it's about 2 ft tall and can hold 2 dozen pint jars. It scares me sometimes, since it needs near constant attention when in use to keep the pressure in the right zone. But it's too big and ungainly to use for nefarious purposes, even if I were so inclined.

Ednahilda

(195 posts)
64. I've got one about that size for canning
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:35 PM
May 2013

and it weighs a ton. It would be an extremely hard to avoid attention lugging that thing around, even empty.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
123. The 8 qt I bought..the 4 & 6 I inherited too
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:28 AM
May 2013

I did have an extra 4 qt one that my oldest son absconded with when he got married

I don't can, but when I make soup, I get out of control and before I know it, I have enough to feed an army

I use the big one when I get in the mood to make egg rolls.. It;s perfect for cooking the pork so it's super tender/juicy..

and I use it when I make beef & noodles/chicken & dumplings

It's odd... I bought a crock pot back when they became popular and I have NEVER cooked in it.. I have loaned it to people and have used it for transporting & keeping stuff warm, but I never cook in it

MADem

(135,425 posts)
117. We've got at least three, too.
Mon May 13, 2013, 12:16 AM
May 2013

One of 'em is short a few bits, and isn't used as a PC anymore, but the rest are in good nick and they get a workout several times a week in the "indoor" months (fall through spring).

Come summer, we're usually cooking/eating al fresco, so it's most often just grilled stuff and lots of cold things in the warm weather.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
32. white person with pressure cooker
Sun May 12, 2013, 12:42 PM
May 2013

not suspicious. I wonder if they'd have reported or investigated?

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
52. I'd love for this to make me feel good.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:14 PM
May 2013

I just feel sad. I cannot justify fear as impetus instead of evidence. "Cooking while Arabian" should not be the new "Driving while Black" (which should have been crushed to a paste by now).

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
63. your carrion has to fit under your seat, or be in the checked luggage.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:35 PM
May 2013

if you ask at the boarding gate, they'll confirm this.

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
130. I had a cartoon once....there was some sort of vulture walking toward an airport boarding gate
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:54 AM
May 2013

carrying two suitcases, and the gate agent says, "Sorry sir. no carrion luggage allowed".

Cracked me up!

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
58. Cooking While Saudi.
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:31 PM
May 2013

Are they at least leaving the Czech people alone? Or are they stalking them too?

FFS, the paranoia has taken complete hold.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
71. 2 questions
Sun May 12, 2013, 01:48 PM
May 2013

1: How do you get the stuff out of the middle?
2: How many cans of non-stick spray do you think this takes?

Great pan though.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
124. OMG--that 2nd pic!!! They're doing the right hand bread dip routine!
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:36 AM
May 2013

They also make one with lemon and fenugreek, very tasty that...

Here's the poor kid, courtesy of the UK Daily Mail:

Buns_of_Fire

(17,175 posts)
72. I have a crock pot. I think that's only a misdemeanor.
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:08 PM
May 2013

Although, when I use it to make chili, the first words out of people's mouths are usually "Are you trying to kill me?"

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
76. Wow!
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:23 PM
May 2013

Good thing they didn't use a car for a bomb. The FBI would be surrounding each of us who own cars.

BainsBane

(53,032 posts)
84. So was it a rice cooker?
Sun May 12, 2013, 02:57 PM
May 2013

Because one doesn't cook rice in a pressure cooker. You might cook beans or meat, but not rice.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
108. Very common in SW Asia to use pressure cooker for rice if one doesn't have reliable electricity.
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:40 PM
May 2013

I would imagine the Arab world has the same tradition.

Rice cookers are electric. A pressure cooker works on propane or gas which are common cooking fuels in the region. Plus, it is a VERY quick method to make rice. The metal container placed inside is most common in my experience.

Recipes:

http://www.gopresto.com/recipes/pressurecooking/steamedrice.php

http://www.food.com/recipe/pressure-cooker-rice-164741

http://fastcooking.ca/pressure_cookers/how_to_cook_rice_in_a_pressure_cooker.php

orleans

(34,051 posts)
85. well, i hope this guy learned an important lesson
Sun May 12, 2013, 03:00 PM
May 2013

while it's important never to go to a friend's house empty handed it's safer to stick with chips and dip--or maybe a cake.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
93. what's funny is
Sun May 12, 2013, 04:40 PM
May 2013

Throughout the Mid-east and Asia, pressure cookers are common, as people make a lot of stews and beans.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
104. Pressure cookers are VERY POPULAR in southwest Asia and in the Arab world.
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:30 PM
May 2013

Why? They cook things quickly (which is important in hot, humid environments), and they use less fuel, precisely because they cook things quickly. They also take sketchy and tough foods and make them very tender, so they absorb the spices and flavors more readily.

It is not uncommon for a family to have several of varying sizes.

GentryDixon

(2,949 posts)
107. I was looking online for a replacement rubber ring
Sun May 12, 2013, 05:33 PM
May 2013

for my Cook's Essential pressure cooker yesterday. I suppose I am now on the "watch list" of suspicious persons.

The 'War on Terror' has become a nightmare. Our civil liberties are in grave jeopardy, and most people are too busy keeping up with Dancing with the Stars or American Hoggers to even notice or care.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
114. This thread will probably tie up a half-dozen FBI agents for the next three weeks
Sun May 12, 2013, 06:43 PM
May 2013

Can you people stop posting about this stuff, so we don't waste federal tax money on investigating your lives?

I have two pressure cookers of my own, one with interchangeable bases. But you don't see *me* posting about them on the Internets. I keep it to myself.

Stick to safe topics that won't rile the authorities, like automatic weapons and Pit Bulls.

toddaa

(2,518 posts)
116. That makes the whole thing worth while
Sun May 12, 2013, 07:11 PM
May 2013

Let's up the ante...

I use my pressure cookery as a target for my BB gun.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
121. Good plan
Mon May 13, 2013, 01:54 AM
May 2013

It's very smart to keep you pressure cookers under your hat. (But you might think twice about going out in public like that.)

Have no fear. No one will hear a word from me about your pressure cookers, on the internets or anywhere else. Your secret about your Warming Meat Devices is safe with me. Shhhhh! Mum's the word! The guy with the WMDs? I never heard of him.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
125. Oh shit, back on the list for me, then...
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:44 AM
May 2013

I spent eight years being badgered at the airport under Bushco. Really onerous shakedowns, ALWAYS. There was no "random" about it. Those Tub Stacking Assholes went out of their way to make my life miserable. I had to always arrive VERY early because I was guaranteed a bit of "extra" screening. I started sending my clothes ahead of myself so I didn't have to deal with the "suitcase toss." I got to know the trains just to avoid the bullshit, and I did a lot of driving, too, rather than deal with those basstids.

Ever since Obama was elected, I'm no longer an airport pariah. I get the same lousy treatment as everyone else. I felt like I got out of jail...

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
126. I'm not worried about pressure cookers
Mon May 13, 2013, 02:55 AM
May 2013

It's those automatic bread machines that have me worried. And those pop corn poppers, you know, the ones that use hot air! It keeps me up at night to know that a bread machine is near by!

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
136. Man from Saudi Arabia arrested at Detroit airport with pressure cooker
Mon May 13, 2013, 03:01 PM
May 2013

DETROIT — Federal agents arrested a Saudi Arabian traveler who arrived at Detroit Metropolitan Airport with a pressure cooker, a key component used in the Boston Marathon bombings last month.

Hussain Al Kwawahir will be arraigned at 1 p.m. in federal court for allegedly using an altered passport and lying to a Customs and Border Protection Agent about the pressure cooker.

Al Kwawahir arrived at the airport Saturday from Saudi Arabia, via Amsterdam, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday in federal court.

He told agents he was visiting his nephew, who attends the University of Toledo.

http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_23232063/saudi-arabia-man-arrested-detroit-metro-pressure-cooker

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