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FBI surrounds house of Saudi student following sightings of him with pressure cooker pot, only to find he was cooking rice
A Saudi student living in Michigan was questioned in his home by FBI agents after neighbours saw him carrying a pressure cooker and called the police.
Talal al Rouki had been cooking a traditional Saudi Arabian rice dish called kabsah and was carrying it to a friend's house.
According to reports in a Saudi newspaper on Friday, the FBI are increasingly vigilant about 'pressure cooker' home-made bombs after the Boston bombers used one to make an explosiv
The Saudi journal, Oukaz reported on the story of the Saudi student who had FBI agents come to his home, following a tip-off from neighbours that he was seen moving about with a pressure cooker bomb.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323316/FBI-surrounds-house-Saudi-student-following-sightings-pressure-cooker-pot-cooking-rice.html
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)Been meaning to get one anyway. I just haven't had any luck finding a large non-aluminum one.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)you work for the National Pressure Cooker Association
Cobalt Violet
(9,905 posts)And the only way to stop a bad guy with a pressure cooker is a good guy with a pressure cooker.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)My mother cooked with a pressure cooker. Scared me out of the kitchen.
Crock pots are safer. Use the right spices and they make the house smell good too.
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)posole, we swear.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)that are very safe. Put on the lid, set the times and dinner begins cooking.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)My mother had to rinse the entire pot (which was very heavy) in cold tap water before starting cautiously to take the lid off. Pretty scary.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)There is nothing like them for certain dishes so I was so happy when they came out with the electric style you don't have to babysit.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)...or perhaps from a private party where size doesn't matter.
Check the Internets!
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)Javaman
(62,521 posts)If I'm not able to make my mom's recipe for stuffed cabbage anymore!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)seems in the hate everybody world of the media, the media will bash law enforcement for saving a little kitten in a tree if it fits their soundbytes.
can't win no matter which way it is done.
better a little inconvience than a million dead.
toddaa
(2,518 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)After all, in 2000, if someone said can I fly a Jet into the top floors of the WTC, they would have figured one was talking about going to JFK, taking a cab to manhattan and a train downtown to the WTC and an elevator to the top floors
who in their right mind would have concieved that 19 people would be able to carry out the plans of one terrorist OBL and his orders?
If the police department busted down doors in Cleveland, the same hate the police people(though they call them cops), (including the Oliver-North Freeing ACLU)would have screamed bloody murder.
If something seems wrong, report it.
Then don't bash the police/law enforcement for doing their job.
the life it saves may be yours.
toddaa
(2,518 posts)There's one in my cupboard, and I've got a copy of the Quran on a bookshelf in the basement.
HOLY SHIT, I'M A FUCKING TERRORIST!!!
"Land of the Safe and the Home of the Meek."
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)I can find pressure cookers and the Q'ran on the internet, am I a cyberterrorist?
toddaa
(2,518 posts)Nice knowing ya.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)I just know I can. I guess this is bomb making materials for becoming a cyberterrorist?
zerosumgame0005
(207 posts)nebenaube
(3,496 posts).......Anyone who watched the X-files did...
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)can you believe Kolchak found a monster a week, every week?
Sheesh
maybe one conspiracy but one a week, every single week???
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)about a TV show but can do so quite readily when it comes to reality.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)You were on here trying to insert the idea that we should buy up all bullets to "thwart" the NRA...
Miraculously, a week later, I heard on Rachel Maddow that Rightwingers were advancing the Conspiracy Theory that liberals were going to buy up all bullets.
Until then, it was a little less clear what your game and agenda were.
In other words, people who plant CT's have no place to really complain about CT's do they?
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)That was a sane suggestion
can't help it if Rachel reads here and parrots my views ( I don't listen to Rachel and that red faced guy who is going to have a stroke if he don't calm down, Ed the republican),anymore as she and Ed lost me after the first debate.
I only listen to Rev. Al Sharpton, who has never lied to me.
But, what is wrong with that idea?
There is a finite # of bullets manufactured, and they could be all bought up.
Though reinterpreting the 2nd is easier and shall happen when Hillary45 is president.
But Rush once said, President Obama is going to annhiliate the republican party at the polling booths.
Damn right he is(and all the extremist no matter what political party).
After all, it's 80-20.
President Obama ran on someday putting the people back in unity.
80-20
and let's all render the extremists politically obsolete.
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In President Obama, I trust.(pun intended.)
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)however, my angle (we all have angles, what's yours?)
Is to render the 50-50 a media and alt-media 100% lie
America can and will be an 80-20 society
so again, render the 50-50 a lie, and make the 20% extremists obsolete in the voting booth,
so that the 80% can live in peace from the draconians who the people time and again have voted they are not interested in.
President Obama and Hillary Clinton have a 90% plus favorable rating in the democratic party
and the vast majority of America supports both
It's time for positive outlooks and let's all work together for peace love and harmony
(which is after all what the Summer of Love was about.
It was together and unity, not negativity and obstruction
It was working together
and it takes a village to make it happen
Agenda? Sure, working to make Barack Obama's agenda last forever.
What democratic supporter wouldn't want that?
After all, the democratic supporters and core voters like myself elected President Obama to landslide victories twice
And Hillary45 will win 100million votes and 475plus electoral votes.
Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)Pretty much everyone who briefed Bush before 9/11.
Yet the man and all of his cronies are free to walk the streets.
bananas
(27,509 posts)Richard Clarke was not the only national security expert who warned National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and other Bush administration officials about terrorist threats before 9/11. Former Democratic Sen. Gary Hart of Colorado also directly told senior Bush officials loudly and clearly that, in his words, The terrorists are coming, the terrorists are coming.
Hart was co-chair (with former Sen. Warren Rudman, R-N.H.) of the U.S. Commission on National Security, a bipartisan panel that conducted the most thorough investigation of U.S. security challenges since World War II. After completing the report, which warned that a devastating terrorist attack on America was imminent and called for the immediate creation of a Cabinet-level national security agency, and delivering it to President Bush on January 31, 2001, Hart and Rudman personally briefed Rice, Rumsfeld and Secretary of State Colin Powell. But, according to Hart, the Bush administration never followed up on the commissions urgent recommendations, even after he repeated them in a private White House meeting with Rice just days before 9/11.
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graham4anything
(11,464 posts)One thing interesting in-
the alt-media says 9-11 didn't happen by OBL,
here is proof it did.
NO conspiracy theory. Just fact.
OBL hired 19 people to crash into the WTC, the capitol and the White House.
no conspiracy.
Just no connecting the dots.
So Gary Hart himself proved OBL did it.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)toddaa
(2,518 posts)CincyDem
(6,355 posts)...to judge how I dress my pressure cooker ? I thought this place was accepting of diversity !
toddaa
(2,518 posts)One day you are flogging a pressure cooker, the next you are wrapping your microwave in latex.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)CincyDem
(6,355 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)love police authority way to much. You might be on the wrong forums.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)just to play highschool debate?
Many others agree, however, they just ignore and won't argue with me.
Rex
(65,616 posts)You have no argument, just some silly statements that people are calling you on. But you knew this already.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)sheesh
ad hominem me again.
and my sister lived in one of the towns in Boston where those fameseeking thrill killers died.
NO they were not admirable. Just two losers looking for 10 minutes of fame like the man who killed John Lennon
Heidi
(58,237 posts)as would many of your DU friends, I'm sure. Please list them or PM them to all of us. Thank you in advance!
Logical
(22,457 posts)today with a 2 Pressure Cookers I should call the police JUST IN CASE he might be a terrorist. And the police should pull him over and investigate. And when the police pull him over his response should be "None of your fucking business officer, am I being detained?"
How do you function being that paranoid all the time?
Rex
(65,616 posts)I've never seen anyone purposely make such silly statements.
Logical
(22,457 posts)toddaa
(2,518 posts)It's pretty hard to tell, anymore.
Democracyinkind
(4,015 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)They have an extensive kitchenware section...it's where I bought my Wusthof professional-grade knives. I also have bought an espresso machine, a sodastream, a wok, two rice cookers, a deep fryer and some harder-to-find types of pans there.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)Wow you really ARE on a roll today!
Apophis
(1,407 posts)My grandma uses one. She'll bring it to our house to make her famous chicken.
Go ahead and call the cops on my grandma.
umb:
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)If the guy in the OP hadn't had an Arab appearance, I don't think anything would have happened.
Apophis
(1,407 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I am surprised you didnt say, "better a little inconvience[sic] than a mushroom cloud".
DirkGently
(12,151 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)baking my rice in the oven.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)In this case it seems they did-although they did turn out to be wrong.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)and they didn't investigate these tips? Law enforcement is sometimes in a lose-lose predicament. Like the tips on the recently freed hostages, that apparently went uninvestigated, they'd be facing a torrent of criticism and probably disciplinary action.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Recipe pics look delucious!
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)That sounds suspiciously tasty.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)New threat: WMD pilaf.
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)it could considered a WMD.
Aerows
(39,961 posts)well, let's just say I use Scotch Bonnet peppers and Tabasco.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)"Ricin???????"
<insert massive police freak-out here>
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)krispos42
(49,445 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)Rice = shrapnal?
Logical
(22,457 posts)Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)And that's before getting into buddy upthread who seems to think a pressure cooker is a nuclear weapon.
Logical
(22,457 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)They are good at entrapment, good at harassing people based on how they look, but finding the smart ones, the ones that don't look funny, that nobody reports, that know the score, the ones we REALLY need to find, not so much.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)yet the police and law enforcement were bashed by the alt media in Boston and Cleveland and everywhere else
I guess in the altmedia world, anarchy and no rules and no lawenforcement would work fine
(the NRA would love it, only guns by anarchists would decide in the no law enforcement world of anarchy and protest and anything goes
bemildred
(90,061 posts)they need to treat the unwashed masses better than they currently do. As long as they make it their business to suck up to the rich and abuse the safely non-rich, you can't really expect the non-rich to be that enthused about them.
But in any case, that's not my problem, I'm just trying to help them understand where they are going wrong in combatting terror, letting all these mass killings and attacks happen.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)I expect to be watched when I'm out in public, or on the Internet. You should put your public face on and behave in public, if you can.
The internet is a very useful cesspool, which makes it an interesting problem too, but I don't have an answer to that one. When I consider the love-hate relationship we have with it, I think of the story about the monkey who won't let go of the rice to get his hand out of the cocoanut before the human comes and catches him. We love the money, we hate the transparency and inability to control the flow of information.
At my home minding my own business is a different matter, there I expect to be left alone (unless I'm keeping a few girls in the cellar or something of that seriousness, not just for jerking myself off in any of the many theoretically illegal ways our society is so eager to provide.)
It's not that I cannot sympathize with LEO in this country, but they need to suck it up and take some responsibility for their situation too, it is their doing too, if they want to fix their image, they need to step up, just like anybody else.
Orrex
(63,207 posts)When pressure cookers are outlawed, then only outlaws will use pressure cookers.
wandy
(3,539 posts)This question has nothing to do with weponising pressure cookers.
Why are we making rice so complicated.
Place 1 cup of rice in small pot.
Add water sufficient to reach from the top of the rice to the first joint of you're index filter.
Cover and heat on high until boiling.
Keeping covered reduce heath to minimum.
Wait seven minutes.
I'll confess to being one of those people that think things like deep fryers and pressure cookers should never be used indoors.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)A pressure cooker can be used, probably to speed up the time needed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabsah
truth2power
(8,219 posts)anyone needs a pressure cooker to make rice. Thank. You.
I eat a lot of rice, and I just cook mine in an ordinary saucepan, as you've described. Easy peasy! Sometimes I just can't understand why people make things so complicated.
In addition, NO ONE to my knowledge has mentioned that in order to can low-acid foods (vegetables/meats) you have to use a pressure canner. Otherwise you put yourself at risk of all kinds of nasty things like botulism.
Homeland Security is going to have their hands full this fall when people are canning the harvest from their vegetable gardens.
burnodo
(2,017 posts)this is the country we've become...frightened little people looking for monsters everywhere
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)I own THREE pressure cookers..Two them have been in use since the 1940's
dairydog91
(951 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)High capacity pressure cookers?
Retrograde
(10,136 posts)Never measured the capacity, but it's about 2 ft tall and can hold 2 dozen pint jars. It scares me sometimes, since it needs near constant attention when in use to keep the pressure in the right zone. But it's too big and ungainly to use for nefarious purposes, even if I were so inclined.
Ednahilda
(195 posts)and it weighs a ton. It would be an extremely hard to avoid attention lugging that thing around, even empty.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)I did have an extra 4 qt one that my oldest son absconded with when he got married
I don't can, but when I make soup, I get out of control and before I know it, I have enough to feed an army
I use the big one when I get in the mood to make egg rolls.. It;s perfect for cooking the pork so it's super tender/juicy..
and I use it when I make beef & noodles/chicken & dumplings
It's odd... I bought a crock pot back when they became popular and I have NEVER cooked in it.. I have loaned it to people and have used it for transporting & keeping stuff warm, but I never cook in it
MADem
(135,425 posts)One of 'em is short a few bits, and isn't used as a PC anymore, but the rest are in good nick and they get a workout several times a week in the "indoor" months (fall through spring).
Come summer, we're usually cooking/eating al fresco, so it's most often just grilled stuff and lots of cold things in the warm weather.
treestar
(82,383 posts)not suspicious. I wonder if they'd have reported or investigated?
elleng
(130,891 posts)dairydog91
(951 posts)As American as apple pie.
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)RetroLounge
(37,250 posts)RL
BeyondGeography
(39,370 posts)is what the police have been known to call them.
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)I just feel sad. I cannot justify fear as impetus instead of evidence. "Cooking while Arabian" should not be the new "Driving while Black" (which should have been crushed to a paste by now).
Betsy Ross
(3,147 posts)Only outlaws will make pot butter.
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Darn!
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)if you ask at the boarding gate, they'll confirm this.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)carrying two suitcases, and the gate agent says, "Sorry sir. no carrion luggage allowed".
Cracked me up!
Jamastiene
(38,187 posts)Are they at least leaving the Czech people alone? Or are they stalking them too?
FFS, the paranoia has taken complete hold.
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)DreamGypsy
(2,252 posts)...of great flavors, Kabsa:
Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)1: How do you get the stuff out of the middle?
2: How many cans of non-stick spray do you think this takes?
Great pan though.
Brigid
(17,621 posts)And it looks delicious, too.
MADem
(135,425 posts)They also make one with lemon and fenugreek, very tasty that...
Here's the poor kid, courtesy of the UK Daily Mail:
NoPasaran
(17,291 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,175 posts)Although, when I use it to make chili, the first words out of people's mouths are usually "Are you trying to kill me?"
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Good thing they didn't use a car for a bomb. The FBI would be surrounding each of us who own cars.
get the red out
(13,462 posts)Eat out.......
So stupid.
BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Because one doesn't cook rice in a pressure cooker. You might cook beans or meat, but not rice.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I would imagine the Arab world has the same tradition.
Rice cookers are electric. A pressure cooker works on propane or gas which are common cooking fuels in the region. Plus, it is a VERY quick method to make rice. The metal container placed inside is most common in my experience.
Recipes:
http://www.gopresto.com/recipes/pressurecooking/steamedrice.php
http://www.food.com/recipe/pressure-cooker-rice-164741
http://fastcooking.ca/pressure_cookers/how_to_cook_rice_in_a_pressure_cooker.php
orleans
(34,051 posts)while it's important never to go to a friend's house empty handed it's safer to stick with chips and dip--or maybe a cake.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Throughout the Mid-east and Asia, pressure cookers are common, as people make a lot of stews and beans.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Why? They cook things quickly (which is important in hot, humid environments), and they use less fuel, precisely because they cook things quickly. They also take sketchy and tough foods and make them very tender, so they absorb the spices and flavors more readily.
It is not uncommon for a family to have several of varying sizes.
GentryDixon
(2,949 posts)for my Cook's Essential pressure cooker yesterday. I suppose I am now on the "watch list" of suspicious persons.
The 'War on Terror' has become a nightmare. Our civil liberties are in grave jeopardy, and most people are too busy keeping up with Dancing with the Stars or American Hoggers to even notice or care.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Can you people stop posting about this stuff, so we don't waste federal tax money on investigating your lives?
I have two pressure cookers of my own, one with interchangeable bases. But you don't see *me* posting about them on the Internets. I keep it to myself.
Stick to safe topics that won't rile the authorities, like automatic weapons and Pit Bulls.
toddaa
(2,518 posts)Let's up the ante...
I use my pressure cookery as a target for my BB gun.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)It's very smart to keep you pressure cookers under your hat. (But you might think twice about going out in public like that.)
Have no fear. No one will hear a word from me about your pressure cookers, on the internets or anywhere else. Your secret about your Warming Meat Devices is safe with me. Shhhhh! Mum's the word! The guy with the WMDs? I never heard of him.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I spent eight years being badgered at the airport under Bushco. Really onerous shakedowns, ALWAYS. There was no "random" about it. Those Tub Stacking Assholes went out of their way to make my life miserable. I had to always arrive VERY early because I was guaranteed a bit of "extra" screening. I started sending my clothes ahead of myself so I didn't have to deal with the "suitcase toss." I got to know the trains just to avoid the bullshit, and I did a lot of driving, too, rather than deal with those basstids.
Ever since Obama was elected, I'm no longer an airport pariah. I get the same lousy treatment as everyone else. I felt like I got out of jail...
defacto7
(13,485 posts)It's those automatic bread machines that have me worried. And those pop corn poppers, you know, the ones that use hot air! It keeps me up at night to know that a bread machine is near by!
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)DETROIT Federal agents arrested a Saudi Arabian traveler who arrived at Detroit Metropolitan Airport with a pressure cooker, a key component used in the Boston Marathon bombings last month.
Hussain Al Kwawahir will be arraigned at 1 p.m. in federal court for allegedly using an altered passport and lying to a Customs and Border Protection Agent about the pressure cooker.
Al Kwawahir arrived at the airport Saturday from Saudi Arabia, via Amsterdam, according to a criminal complaint filed Monday in federal court.
He told agents he was visiting his nephew, who attends the University of Toledo.
http://www.chicoer.com/news/ci_23232063/saudi-arabia-man-arrested-detroit-metro-pressure-cooker