BREAKING: Chiquito Fire 40 acres, 20% contained Sierra N.F. North of Mammoth Pool

[zappaman]

This fire has potential to get worse.
Everyone in the area please heed warnings and stay safe!

Location: North of Mammoth Pool, West of Minarets Rd.
GPS: Lat/Long, 37 25.824, -119 24.162

[Sekhmets Daughter]

1. A jury voted 4/2 Leave It Alone

At Mon May 13, 2013, 01:07 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

BREAKING: Chiquito Fire 40 acres, 20% contained Sierra N.F. North of Mammoth Pool
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022837126

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

If you look at Zappaman's snarky comment history, this is really a pathetic attempt to make fun of Nadin's SoCal fire posts -- he's obsessed with Nadin, for some reason, and seems to have plenty of time on his hands to follow her posts around....

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 13, 2013, 01:16 PM, and the Jury voted 2-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I might suggest Nadin is obsessed with San Diego fires. Can't have a double standard allowing her posts and striking this one, can we?
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT and said: I've noticed that behavior.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Without the benefit of being able to read the poster's mind and therefore their intent, I cannot vote to hide this post. The post by itself is non-offensive.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Maybe. But this post doesn't call out nadin. It's about a fire. There have been multiple post about fires for two weeks now. Either they all go, or not.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: What the poster said may or may not be true; but it seems to go past the level of a jury on one post into the level of the mods if it is true that the poster is following another member making fun of their posts.
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT and said: I think this is an issue for the Administrators or MIRT... There is nothing in the post itself that warrants a hide... but I am going to vote to hide it...if there is no fire, and I couldn't find a report of one during a quick search...then Zappaman is an ass.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[chillfactor]

4. why in the hell would anyone object to this post?

good lord....people could be in danger and someone objected?

[Bluenorthwest]

10. This OP is making light of deadly and destructive wildfires to make fun of a DUer who

cares about and reports about such fires. Because they do not care for that poster, the OP and others find wildfires which destroy thousands of homes and burn acres of forest each year to be suitable fodder for their petty amusements.
A fire like this one, where it is located will be as we speak causing upheaval and death uncountable among the wildlife there. These posters think it is all about them, and cliquish bully games they play on the internet from other countries and unnamed States. California burns, they laugh. Good stuff.

[Brother Buzz]

12. Is a 120 acre open grassland fire with no structures endangered such a fire?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2794501

[Bluenorthwest]

13. They all start small which is why awareness is vital and lifesaving.

In your view, how many houses or people should burn before it is discussed by the CA public?

[Brother Buzz]

19. Awareness is vital, lifesaving, and important

And that's what I suggested to Nadine. She took my advice and started posting PSA's. How she read what I suggested is beyond my comprehension as I was informed by her, in a terse PM, I'm on her IGGY list.

While that grassland fire was raging there were three fires burning (two of the smaller ones later merged into one) in my area, the largest burned for three days. One house was destroyed, and a few others experienced fire damage. Just local media coverage. More houses might have burned if firemen didn't think it vital, lifesaving, and important to invest a lot of effort educating the public of the of dangers and how to protect property, face to face and through PSA's; it a BIG part of their job.

[chillfactor]

5. btw...I also did a quick search of the fire reported....

and it IS for real....

[Sekhmets Daughter]

6. There is no figuring with juries....

[Orrex]

16. On the plus side, a jury voted 0-6 to Leave your post alone, too.

At Mon May 13, 2013, 01:39 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

A jury voted 4/2 Leave It Alone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2837226

REASON FOR ALERT:

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate. (See <a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=aboutus#communitystandards" target="_blank">Community Standards</a>.)

ALERTER'S COMMENTS:

Posting jury results went away when 'meta' went.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon May 13, 2013, 01:59 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I wasn't aware of a prohibition against posting jury results, and in the grand scheme it doesn't seem especially disruptive. I say leave it.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I agree with Sekhmet's Daughter re the stalking of Nadin by Zappaman and his post is not clever enough to hide what he intended. Disagree with the alerter, stalking of posters should be highlighted no matter how clever the stalker thinks s/he is.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: Alerters contention is not correct. People post jury results all the time.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I can't tell what in the hell is going on here. I can't find any specific prohibition against posting jury results. There is not enough context in that thread, nor in the alerter's explanation, to tell me exactly what the infraction(s) are supposed to be. So, to ensure that I am fair, I vote to leave it, and yes I probably am an idiot.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: I hadn't heard anything against posting jury results. I imagine these results will be posted as well.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE and said: You kids play nice or go get a parent, er I mean Mod to settle this.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[Sekhmets Daughter]

17. Thanks Orrex!

I think all jury results should be posted...it can help people better understand how juries work and vote.

[Orrex]

18. You're welcome!

I agree--a little transparency could go a long way.

[ohiosmith]

21. Someone alerted on this?

[Orrex]

22. I know, right?

I was juror #1, by the way.

[Bluenorthwest]

2. This year is the 10th anniversary of the most deadly fire season in CA history

2003 the Cedar Fire and others caused at least 40 deaths along with thousands of homes and hundreds of thousands of acres.

[SidDithers]

3. DU rec...nt

Sid

[Bluenorthwest]

9. This year is the 10th anniversary of the most deadly fire season in CA history

2003 the Cedar Fire and others caused at least 40 deaths along with thousands of homes and hundreds of thousands of acres.
Two of the dead were people I knew personally.
Fun stuff for you though, which is important of course.

[bike man]

7. A timely heads up. Thanks for the info. Are there any other fires of note? nt

[pintobean]

8. K & R5

[cherokeeprogressive]

11. Such a beautiful place... n/t

[zappaman]

14. Update 5-13-13 0800: Helitanker 718 committed, SNF FRSNO4 (Type II) commited

Hopefully, the tanker can put this thing out.

http://calfire.blogspot.com/2013/05/ca-snf-chiquitofire-wildfire-25-acres.html

[kestrel91316]

15. I guess you grew weary of stalking and turned to this new harrassment tactic.

Why don't you just put her on ignore instead of acting like a child??

[Buzz Clik]

20. Is that fire hot enough to melt thin ice?

It would be unwise to go skating on thin ice, even if it is your obsession.