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babylonsister

(171,049 posts)
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:27 PM May 2013

You want a scandal? Here’s a scandal.


You want a scandal? Here’s a scandal.

By Jonathan Bernstein, Published: May 13, 2013 at 5:21


Want a real Washington scandal — one worse than the (phony) Benghazi scandal and the (apparently real, but apparently limited) IRS scandals combined? Try the continuing, and possibly accelerating, obstruction of executive branch nominees by Senate Republicans.

Don’t think it’s a scandal? It’s pretty basic: Republicans, by abusing their Constitutional powers, are — deliberately, in several cases — preventing the government from carrying out duly passed laws.

The New York Times yesterday highlighted two of the more recent ways that Republicans have manipulated loopholes in Senate rules to delay confirmation of Secretary of Labor nominee Thomas Perez and Environmental Protection Agency nominee Gina McCarthy. It’s worth stepping back and realizing: what’s happening here is that Republicans are delaying these nominations beyond their eventual insistence that almost all nominees must get 60 votes. In other words, they’re filibustering on top of their own filibusters.

That’s just two examples. There are numerous others; again, with virtually all nominees required to have 60 votes, one can accurately say that Republicans are filibustering every nomination. But perhaps the worst are the “nullification” filibusters, in which Republicans simply refuse to approve any nominee at all for some positions — the National Labor Relations Board, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau — because they don’t want those agencies to carry out their statutory obligations.

In doing so, Republicans are not breaking the rules of the Senate. They are, however, breaking the Senate itself, and harming the government. As with all legislative chambers, and in fact all democratic institutions, the Senate runs on a combination of formal rules and informal norms. But Republicans, by refusing to accept those norms, make it impossible for the normal machinery of government to function.


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You want a scandal? Here’s a scandal. (Original Post) babylonsister May 2013 OP
It sure is a scandel LeftInTX May 2013 #1
and who are financing these people ...the movonne May 2013 #9
Yep. It's not about having more money than you could spend in many lifetimes. maddiemom May 2013 #42
Fine. Sell it to the greedy scum. aquart May 2013 #52
Well, Texas Democrats TRIED to send Paul Sadler to the Senate instead of Ted Cruz... derby378 May 2013 #2
if only there was a way to change the rules so they can't do this Enrique May 2013 #3
I know what you're saying. Demoiselle May 2013 #4
I know I am not adding anything of import, timdog44 May 2013 #20
There's honor among Retugs Plucketeer May 2013 #44
If ONLY enough DEMOCRATS would vote for such a change... Bandit May 2013 #8
The poster didnt even mention Sen Reid. But IMO Sen Reid must shoulder a good share of the blame. rhett o rick May 2013 #11
51 doesn't do it anymore decrepittex May 2013 #27
This will get no coverage since the hot off the press AP/DOJ scandal breaking . . . SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #5
hate to ask this, but what the hell is going on? SleeplessinSoCal May 2013 #6
On edit: This has it's own thread here rhett o rick May 2013 #12
It is more than a scandal, it is a crime. Rex May 2013 #7
Not exactly sure. Half-Century Man May 2013 #16
2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 2014 VOTE! 2016 2016 2016 2016 2016 2016 2016 VOTE!! judesedit May 2013 #10
K & Effing R malaise May 2013 #13
if democrats were pulling this shit d_b May 2013 #14
they are!..mostly Harry Reid ...by empowering these assholes Demonaut May 2013 #30
Wake up! Do you honestly think Reed trusted McConnel again? Dustlawyer May 2013 #49
And we'd be called un-American davidpdx May 2013 #31
Treasonous bastards! sheshe2 May 2013 #15
These fake "scandals" are just more of the same. GoCubsGo May 2013 #17
Do you really believe the IRS and AP stories are "witch hunts" created by the rethugs? SlimJimmy May 2013 #24
No, Benghazi is a witch hunt. GoCubsGo May 2013 #25
A great article davidpdx May 2013 #32
The article you linked to at KOS was no real help. The IRS has already SlimJimmy May 2013 #36
Yep. kentuck May 2013 #18
The republicons by being assholes are Cha May 2013 #19
What about charging the Repugs with malfeasance in office? mrmpa May 2013 #21
I think malfeasance would be letting them off way too lenient for those assholes davidpdx May 2013 #33
First, they'd have to be expelled. Good luck with that. Buns_of_Fire May 2013 #43
Why aren't the Dems outraged about this and making lots of waves in the press and media? Auntie Bush May 2013 #22
I'm still so pissed at Harry Reid ybbor May 2013 #23
GOTV 2014 for electable Democrats Hekate May 2013 #26
If george bush lying us into a war that killed & maimed thousands of americans doesn't cause a HiPointDem May 2013 #28
Sorry, pedophilia won't do it either. Mr. Evil May 2013 #29
There IS a Benghazi Scandal... filterfreeradio May 2013 #34
Welcome to DU my friend! hrmjustin May 2013 #40
This was an interesting paragraph Fumesucker May 2013 #35
Yes, we blinked. We had a chance to change the rules at the beginning SlimJimmy May 2013 #37
IMO they are right to be afraid treestar May 2013 #45
Yes, that's a good point. It's certainly a double edged sword. SlimJimmy May 2013 #46
If the Republicans take the Senate they can change the rules Fumesucker May 2013 #47
They had a chance to and didn't treestar May 2013 #54
Demography is destiny Fumesucker May 2013 #56
Of course the so called liberal media is all over this libtodeath May 2013 #38
There is no way this article can get traction, go viral...GOP doesn't care, they will continue Ninga May 2013 #39
So f**king complicit... chervilant May 2013 #41
I heard McConnell on NPR today say theIRS needs to stop stonewalling. intheflow May 2013 #48
That is a scandal All right. cyclezealot May 2013 #50
100% of the blame for this is on Harry Reid's doorstep. Moostache May 2013 #51
Sedition-Lite, at minimum. nt patrice May 2013 #53
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2013 #55

movonne

(9,623 posts)
9. and who are financing these people ...the
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:26 PM
May 2013

Koch bros and the rest of the wealthy...they want to bring this country down...so they can buy it all...

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
42. Yep. It's not about having more money than you could spend in many lifetimes.
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:02 AM
May 2013

It's about power and one-upmanship over the relatively few other billionaires on the planet. The rest of us aren't even a consideration, other than to be kept in line. These guys don't worry about a revolution of the type that used to happen. They're able to go anywhere in the world for safety, if their elected lackeys fail them. I'm still aggravated about all the time and money wasted on Whitewater and trying to impeach Clinton. Then Bush II is in office and V.P. Cheney's Halliburton is getting no-bid contracts.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
2. Well, Texas Democrats TRIED to send Paul Sadler to the Senate instead of Ted Cruz...
Mon May 13, 2013, 05:56 PM
May 2013

Apparently, our state party apparatus is still in rebuilding mode.

Demoiselle

(6,787 posts)
4. I know what you're saying.
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:02 PM
May 2013

Unfortunately our rules are based on the notion that everybody is going to act honorably. I gave up on Republican "honor" a long time ago.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
20. I know I am not adding anything of import,
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:08 PM
May 2013

but there is not enough breath in one person's body to say honor and republican in the same sentence. Disgusting waste of DNA.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
44. There's honor among Retugs
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:42 AM
May 2013

Same as there is among thieves. OH - wait - Rethugs, Thieves - one in the same.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
8. If ONLY enough DEMOCRATS would vote for such a change...
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:17 PM
May 2013

Reid certainly can not do it on his own.. It takes fifty one votes and Reid simply did not have those votes... so blame Reid all you wish but the facts are still the facts....

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
11. The poster didnt even mention Sen Reid. But IMO Sen Reid must shoulder a good share of the blame.
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:08 PM
May 2013

He couldnt convince 51 Democrats to change the rules. That's his job.

The scandal is that the Republican minority is pushing the Democratic majority around without much of a fight. Why are our Democratic senators not putting up a fight? That's the scandal. Maybe those that give them large campaign contributions are happy with the way things are.

decrepittex

(53 posts)
27. 51 doesn't do it anymore
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:03 AM
May 2013

We don't operate on a 51 vote majority anymore. It takes 60 now to get anything passed.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,107 posts)
5. This will get no coverage since the hot off the press AP/DOJ scandal breaking . . .
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:02 PM
May 2013
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/13/ap-phone-records-government-intrusion-unprecedented_n_3268569.html

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Justice Department secretly obtained two months of telephone records of reporters and editors for The Associated Press in what the news cooperative's top executive called a "massive and unprecedented intrusion" into how news organizations gather the news.

The records obtained by the Justice Department listed outgoing calls for the work and personal phone numbers of individual reporters, general AP office numbers in New York, Washington and Hartford, Conn., and the main number for AP reporters in the House of Representatives press gallery, according to attorneys for the AP. It was not clear if the records also included incoming calls or the duration of calls."
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
7. It is more than a scandal, it is a crime.
Mon May 13, 2013, 06:06 PM
May 2013

The GOP publicly announced long ago that it would actively SABOTAGE the democratically elected official WE all voted for and put into the WH. NOW, since they are admitting to sabotage why can't we hold their feet to the fire with some kind of legal action? Is it not a crime to purposely damage the countries infrastructure?

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
16. Not exactly sure.
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:41 PM
May 2013
Trea*son (tre .zen) n. disloyalty to country: act of betrayal. -able a. Treason -ableness n. -ably adv. -ous a. (New Webster's Dictionary and Thesaurus 1991ed)

I say we the people have a sufficient cause to assemble a Grand Jury and present a case of treason against select members of the US Congress and select members of several state Congresses (The Congress of North Carolina's gross violations of Human Rights through manipulations of Voters Rights).
I'm not exactly sure, but said members should have publicly vowed to represent their districts and it's inhabitants.
 

d_b

(7,463 posts)
14. if democrats were pulling this shit
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:27 PM
May 2013

every american would know because republicans would never shut the fuck up about it. it'd be a part of their talking points, they'd be calling it treason, they'd be investigating, etc.

but when they pull this shit only junkies like us hear about it, or rachel does a thing on her show. or maybe some obscure house democrat calls them bullies or something. that's about it.

Demonaut

(8,914 posts)
30. they are!..mostly Harry Reid ...by empowering these assholes
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:40 AM
May 2013

Reid, why did think they would change? you cannot reason with those incapable of it

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
49. Wake up! Do you honestly think Reed trusted McConnel again?
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:49 PM
May 2013

He is in on this act that DC politicians are playing for us. He I part of it as are most Dems. As long as we the people believe they really represent us, we will not insist upon campaign finance reform! They will continue to screw us and say "we tried!"

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
17. These fake "scandals" are just more of the same.
Mon May 13, 2013, 07:47 PM
May 2013

They're just obstruction by distraction. Instead of doing their jobs, they're running a bunch of witch hunts.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
32. A great article
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:03 AM
May 2013

People on DU are buying into the AP story already. It's amazing what people will believe.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
36. The article you linked to at KOS was no real help. The IRS has already
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:57 AM
May 2013

apologized for targeting the groups (not something that happens in a fake scandal). The AP issue is not the issuance of subpoenas, but the amount , depth, and breadth of the subpoenas that were issued (20 subpoenas affecting the records of over 100 reporters). I have deep concerns with both of these incidents. Your mileage may vary.



mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
21. What about charging the Repugs with malfeasance in office?
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:09 PM
May 2013

Malfeasance in office requires an affirmative act or omission. Second, the act must have been done in an official capacity—under the color of office. Finally, that that act somehow interferes with the performance of official duties.

They have committed an act in their official capacity while in office, that interferes with the performance of official duties. They were hired (elected) to do certain things, one of which is to allow government to perform its duties. The repugs are not letting government do what it's supposed to.

I am writing this as a lay person, but I can see the malfeasance occurring daily. where's the Justice Department?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
33. I think malfeasance would be letting them off way too lenient for those assholes
Tue May 14, 2013, 02:10 AM
May 2013

They should be charged with with something much more serious than that.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
43. First, they'd have to be expelled. Good luck with that.
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:11 AM
May 2013

The only way to get rid of a congresscritter (outside of an election) is by a 2/3 vote of their respective house. Next to their campaign donors, these people must be swearing a super-secret oath to always be loyal to their buddies in The Club.

Although it would be fun to have multiple concurrent resolutions to expel a few of the more blatant assholes from Congress for conduct unbecoming. And then their buddies could file a resolution to expel the person(s) who filed the first resolution. And then their buddies would file an expulsion resolution, and so on and so on. One big circular firing squad.

They don't seem to be doing much else these days, at least they could provide some entertainment.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
22. Why aren't the Dems outraged about this and making lots of waves in the press and media?
Mon May 13, 2013, 08:47 PM
May 2013

If the Dems did this to the Rethgs they'd be howling and screaming their heads off on every show at every opportunity. If they ever get back in office...we'll HAVE to do the same to them and give them a taste of their own medicine. They'd claim we're anti-American and have some emergency hearings.

 

HiPointDem

(20,729 posts)
28. If george bush lying us into a war that killed & maimed thousands of americans doesn't cause a
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:14 AM
May 2013

scandal, i don't know what it will take.

pedophilia maybe.

Mr. Evil

(2,835 posts)
29. Sorry, pedophilia won't do it either.
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:02 AM
May 2013

These newspapers were all confiscated. Well, almost all of them to prevent this scandal back in 1989. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. http://freemanireland.ning.com/profiles/blogs/conspiracy-of-silance-the-bush-reagan-pedophile-ring-in-the?xg_source=activity

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
35. This was an interesting paragraph
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:33 AM
May 2013
As I’ve said before, the only recourse for the majority — and recall that Democrats enjoy a 55-seat duly elected majority in the Senate — is to threaten to change the rules if Republicans continue, and then carry out that threat with majority-imposed reform to end filibusters on executive branch nominations altogether. But that would be a loss for the Senate if it had to happen. It’s not a bad thing at all to give the minority party a larger role in the process, and filibusters are part of that; but if filibusters become routine instead of used only for those things the minority objects to the strongest, then the majority will have little choice.


Hasn't this decision already been made and the Democrats blinked?

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
37. Yes, we blinked. We had a chance to change the rules at the beginning
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:34 AM
May 2013

of this Senate session, and failed to do so.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
45. IMO they are right to be afraid
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:44 AM
May 2013

The Republicans take the WH and the Senate and the Democrats are then on the other end of it. Then people here will be screaming about how stupid it was to change the rules.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
47. If the Republicans take the Senate they can change the rules
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:17 PM
May 2013

I'm sure their innate sense of fairness would stop the Republicans from doing that though.

Not to mention that we are now in the era of the permanent Democratic majority.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
56. Demography is destiny
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

And the demographics assure Republican minorities forever.

I read it here on DU daily almost.

Old bitter white men are a dying demographic.

Ninga

(8,275 posts)
39. There is no way this article can get traction, go viral...GOP doesn't care, they will continue
Tue May 14, 2013, 09:06 AM
May 2013

To hammer, hammer, away at Obama...


So fucking sad....the Democrats....So fucking impotent...So fucking disorganized...

intheflow

(28,460 posts)
48. I heard McConnell on NPR today say theIRS needs to stop stonewalling.
Tue May 14, 2013, 12:46 PM
May 2013
Have you looked in a fucking mirror lately, McConnell?!?!?

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
51. 100% of the blame for this is on Harry Reid's doorstep.
Tue May 14, 2013, 01:14 PM
May 2013

If he had any guts at all, the filibuster abuse would have ended in 2010...or in 2012...I have ZERO hope for it ending on his watch PERIOD.

The Republicans are incorrigible, but they have plenty of help from Harry Reid's inability to act.

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