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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:00 PM May 2013

BENGHAZI BOMBSHELL: Leaked Emails Were EDITED To Make Obama LOOK BAD






Turns out the press got played again by Republicans. Jake Tapper has the smoking gun of the original email from the Obama administration which differs significantly from the “leaked emails” ABC ran with. In an exclusive for CNN, Tapper reveals that CNN has the original email sent by a top Obama aide, regarding the administration’s reaction to the Benghazi attacks. Tapper reported, “The actual email differs from how sources characterized it to two different media organizations.”


“The actual email from then-Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications Ben Rhodes appears to show that whomever (sic) leaked it did so in a way that made it appear that the White House primarily concerned with the State Department’s desire to remove references and warnings about specific terrorist groups so as to not bring criticism to the department,” Tapper concludes (my bold).

http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/14/cnn-exclusive-white-house-email-contradicts-benghazi-leaks/



The email was sent on Friday, September 14, 2012, at 9:34 p.m. and was obtained by CNN from a U.S. government source. Ironically, the email points out that there is a “ton of wrong information” coming from Congress and people who are not particularly informed (waving hello to Congressional Republicans and Mitt Romney):


“Sorry to be late to this discussion. We need to resolve this in a way that respects all of the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.

“There is a ton of wrong information getting out into the public domain from Congress and people who are not particularly informed. Insofar as we have firmed up assessments that don’t compromise intel or the investigation, we need to have the capability to correct the record, as there are significant policy and messaging ramifications that would flow from a hardened mis-impression.

“We can take this up tomorrow morning at deputies.”


http://thelead.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/14/cnn-exclusive-white-house-email-contradicts-benghazi-leaks/





READ THE FULL EMAIL:
http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2013/05/politics/white-house-benghazi-email/index.html



cont'



http://www.politicususa.com/jake-tapper-destroys-republican-benghazi-conspiracy-turns-emails-paraphrased.html
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BENGHAZI BOMBSHELL: Leaked Emails Were EDITED To Make Obama LOOK BAD (Original Post) Segami May 2013 OP
K&R G_j May 2013 #1
WTF. Is there no low the Republicans will go to?? JaneyVee May 2013 #2
No. Scuba May 2013 #3
They're criminals. Lying under oath. JaneyVee May 2013 #7
No depth too deep. silverweb May 2013 #4
Nope, and the worst thing about it... GoCubsGo May 2013 #13
It's piddly baby crap compared to their stolen elections, Watergate, Iran-Contra, etc. AlbertCat May 2013 #46
Or how low DUers will go to take anything at face value to discredit the Administration? randome May 2013 #16
SCHEDULING JANEYVEE FOR ASS KICKING Skittles May 2013 #26
They are the definition of low. nt valerief May 2013 #27
Rhetorical question? Scootaloo May 2013 #29
No. These bastards sulphurdunn May 2013 #40
In short no Botany May 2013 #45
Ain't no mountain high enough, hootinholler May 2013 #58
Their bar has pretty much reached the lowest point on earth. Initech May 2013 #62
Oh, my. I'm absolutely overcome by surprise. winter is coming May 2013 #5
We shouldn't hear any more about this madokie May 2013 #6
Clearly, the problem is Obama not reaching out enough to Republicans. bullwinkle428 May 2013 #8
Is anyone here surprised by this? Warpy May 2013 #9
Not me malaise May 2013 #19
I haven't been reading much lately... Whisp May 2013 #41
". . . they're just a racket, an interstate organized crime syndicate" siligut May 2013 #61
I'm shocked, shocked to find this out NewJeffCT May 2013 #10
No, they'll say the White House doctored the email and released a phony "original" as the real thing klook May 2013 #28
You nailed it n/t emulatorloo May 2013 #54
Proof why jumping to conclusions is a bad idea KingFlorez May 2013 #11
Where's the House investigation of altered emails? sinkingfeeling May 2013 #12
Curious to see if MSM reports this or 2theleft May 2013 #14
I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I SAY!!! MetasticTwine May 2013 #15
Welcome to DU, MetasticTwine! calimary May 2013 #43
re: BENGHAZI BOMBSHELL: Leaked Emails Were EDITED To Make Obama LOOK BAD allan01 May 2013 #17
When it comes to skanky, nothing is too low for Republicans Berlum May 2013 #18
You mean there aren't really grounds to impeach the President? CakeGrrl May 2013 #20
Looks like you'd better send this to Tweety malaise May 2013 #21
He was particularly clueless today... Spitfire of ATJ May 2013 #38
It's always been the State Dept. vs. the White House marshall May 2013 #22
k&r... spanone May 2013 #23
I can't say that I am shocked. Sheepshank May 2013 #24
idiot repugs samsingh May 2013 #25
So will those at ABC and those members of Congress go the way of cui bono May 2013 #30
The e-mail suggests that the White House was trying to inform honestly while protecting the JDPriestly May 2013 #31
Will the MSM learn from this? I doubt it. Will some DUers learn from this? Hekate May 2013 #32
hello Hekate, long time no see (I used to by Cryingshame) KittyWampus May 2013 #34
Hello back atcha! Hekate May 2013 #35
no, theyve moved on to the IRS story .. iamthebandfanman May 2013 #36
Transformation of the media into stenographers is complete. n/t JBoy May 2013 #33
Benghazi Bombshell rso May 2013 #37
Nothing from the MSM Boomerproud May 2013 #39
There should be 100 tweeds and 100 Facebook republish Sand Wind May 2013 #42
Thanks! Segami May 2013 #44
Its my pleasure to help the democrate of this beautifull country to make It better. Nt Sand Wind May 2013 #48
I was thinking ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2013 #47
I see Obama as a very honest person, as Is own core. And I'm a stranger, a muslim also. Sand Wind May 2013 #50
Chickens coming home to roost Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #49
The timing of these "scandals" is highly suspicious. Dawson Leery May 2013 #51
kr Solly Mack May 2013 #52
Any comment from the Repukes on the "real" email? rightsideout May 2013 #53
reporter is standing by his third hand iamthebandfanman May 2013 #57
At least Dan Rather JimDandy May 2013 #63
The GOP is the party of intentional misrepresentations and lies magellan May 2013 #55
The GOPs problem is that they start believing their own lies Trekologer May 2013 #59
WHY did the Administration Force The GOP to lie to the press? WE MUST INVESTIGATE!!! Warren DeMontague May 2013 #56
I read the news because I like to be informed, but am I really more informed by reading the news? nt ZombieHorde May 2013 #60

silverweb

(16,410 posts)
4. No depth too deep.
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:03 PM
May 2013

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]That's why I love it when the walls fall in on them.

GoCubsGo

(34,947 posts)
13. Nope, and the worst thing about it...
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

...is that this is relative child's play compared to what they are capable of doing, and compared the things they have done already. It's piddly baby crap compared to their stolen elections, Watergate, Iran-Contra, etc.

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
46. It's piddly baby crap compared to their stolen elections, Watergate, Iran-Contra, etc.
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:04 PM
May 2013

But just as incompetent as all those.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
16. Or how low DUers will go to take anything at face value to discredit the Administration?
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:17 PM
May 2013

[hr]
[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
[hr]

 

sulphurdunn

(6,891 posts)
40. No. These bastards
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:04 PM
May 2013

are playing to win, no rules, not ethics, no morals, only the pretense of them to sucker the rubes. Compared to them the Democrats are a bunch of sissies, wiling to sell out to the same corporate interests that own the Republicans, but for much less.

Botany

(77,535 posts)
45. In short no
Tue May 14, 2013, 09:30 PM
May 2013

lying to start a war, stealing elections, trying to gin up problems about
4 Americans killed in Libya even after the families of the killed asked
everybody NOT TO MAKE THIER DEATHS POLITICAL, saying global warming
is not real, trying to kill the post office and public schools, gerrymandering
districts so American's votes don't count ....

hootinholler

(26,451 posts)
58. Ain't no mountain high enough,
Wed May 15, 2013, 09:30 AM
May 2013

Ain't no river wide enough,
Ain't no valley low enough,
TO keep them from lying to you!

Initech

(108,943 posts)
62. Their bar has pretty much reached the lowest point on earth.
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:26 PM
May 2013

Where's James Cameron when you need him?

madokie

(51,076 posts)
6. We shouldn't hear any more about this
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:04 PM
May 2013

except maybe issa's resignation but we know hell will freeze over first before that happens.

Warpy

(114,648 posts)
9. Is anyone here surprised by this?
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:05 PM
May 2013

The Republicans used to be a political party, now they're just a racket, an interstate organized crime syndicate intent on either taking the government by fraud or by toppling it completely.

If more people recognized this, we might be on the way to rebuilding this country.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
41. I haven't been reading much lately...
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:08 PM
May 2013

how many of the usual suspects here were jumping up and down with glee and foamy mouths at the false info?

siligut

(12,272 posts)
61. ". . . they're just a racket, an interstate organized crime syndicate"
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:22 PM
May 2013

Yup, this pretty much covers it. Bunch of crooks.

NewJeffCT

(56,848 posts)
10. I'm shocked, shocked to find this out
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:07 PM
May 2013

And, I'm sure Republicans will blame an overzealous "low level staffer" for the email editing.

klook

(13,614 posts)
28. No, they'll say the White House doctored the email and released a phony "original" as the real thing
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:42 PM
May 2013

The Republican faithful are like the moon landing deniers -- they will twist and turn everything until it fits their story.

KingFlorez

(12,689 posts)
11. Proof why jumping to conclusions is a bad idea
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:12 PM
May 2013

Because you never know exactly when something is amiss with a story the GOP is pushing. The GOP is so desperate, that they will fake things just to create controversy.

2theleft

(1,137 posts)
14. Curious to see if MSM reports this or
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

if it just dies quietly...I know which I'm betting on...

 

MetasticTwine

(67 posts)
15. I'm SHOCKED, SHOCKED I SAY!!!
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

or maybe notsomuch.

This is, after all, the standard GOP playbook. My God, they impeached the last sitting president for getting a blowjob. They'll pass off some excuse to impeach this president.

calimary

(90,312 posts)
43. Welcome to DU, MetasticTwine!
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:42 PM
May 2013

Glad you're here! I'm shocked, SHOCKED I say, too! NOT!

I would not put ANYTHING past them. They seem to be growing in desperation. The life they want - even the world they want - doesn't exist anymore. If it ever did, it was mostly in 1950's and '60's sitcoms. The demographics that still care are either old and dying out, or so stupid, gullible, and ill-informed that they're well-trained by now to vote against their own best interests. They're well-conditioned enough to swallow whole whatever crap is spewing out of RNC/Pox Noise. Without questioning. Or from their own bullies in the pulpit who seem more interested in building earthly empires for themselves than the Hereafter. They yearn for those "simple" times and "good ol' days" when Dad's paycheck MORE than covered the needs of a family of four. When houses were affordable for the middle class. When there WAS a viable middle class. When there weren't all these annoying other people who demanded the same equality and pay and voting rights and other rights and the same-size place at the table as Dad's. When the "little woman" was content to know her place - quiet, acquiescent, subservient, never speaking out of turn, securely in the home or low-paying pink-collar jobs only. You know, the kind that Jurassic-james inhofe is comfortable with. And everybody was white with blue eyes and blonde or light brown hair, and spoke English. Even Jesus!

Well, we don't have that kind of world. Not now! Not EVER! And I bet it'd rip them up inside if they ever contemplated how the physical Jesus probably resembled Osama bin Laden more than the sanitized version we see in all the Easter cards.

No amount of wishing can make it so. And in many cases, no amount of propaganda can make it so at the polls.

Which is why they cheat. They have to. They have to rig the game, tilt the playing field, bend the rules, defy the rules, or change the rules outright, in order to secure a win anymore. That's all they've got.

Their policies are so unpalatable, unreasonable, unrealistic, and unworkable that they're falling out of favor. Insisting what they still do will NOT win them more voters. Too many people know otherwise. INVARIABLY, when things are explained, the point always goes to OUR side. No wonder one of the many things these assholes want to do is defund education and disregard it as a concern worthy of Cabinet-level priority. Majorities are moving away from marriage prejudice. The young aren't embracing organized religion anymore. Single heads of households are no longer some rare oddity you only hear about but never see in your neighborhood. Majorities are shifting their views on marijuana. There's suddenly a strong and vigorous pushback against 2nd Amendment extremism where there once was NONE AT ALL. There is growing concern over environmental degradation and climate change, and more realism about it. There are more women winning elections. More Latinos too. There are more Latinos, PERIOD. The white majority is losing ground, rapidly, and soon won't be a numerical majority anywhere any longer. Many of us have just had TOO MUCH for TOO LONG.

Things are NO LONGER what they once seemed.

And the CONS don't like it. They want it back the old way. The way they THINK it was, in their own cloudy, addled, fantasy-filled nostalgia. That's what the whining middle-aged white woman standing in the back of the room during one of those town hall meeting videos a few years back sniveled, tearily: "I Want MY America BACK!" That America is GONE, honey. It really never was. You just assumed it was like what you saw on TV when you were growing up, and what your CONservative authorities tell you is how things should be. Hell, sometimes I think I want my wisdom teeth back, too, just in case I ever start losing some of the others. But it's not to be. Won't happen. Can't happen. They're long gone. I simply have to deal with what there is in reality. And nobody in this reality is trying to help republi-CONS and CONservatives in general - to see this. They're still fancying up their own realities in their own little bubble worlds, where everything is as "Fox and Friends" tell you it is, in the morning, and as limbaugh tells you it is in the middays, and as bill o'reilly tells you it is, come nightfall.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
17. re: BENGHAZI BOMBSHELL: Leaked Emails Were EDITED To Make Obama LOOK BAD
Tue May 14, 2013, 04:36 PM
May 2013

something rotton in denmark. enough said>

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
20. You mean there aren't really grounds to impeach the President?
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:06 PM
May 2013

Oh noes. I'm sure there will be some disappointment.








 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
38. He was particularly clueless today...
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:39 PM
May 2013

He actually said Obama needs to handle this the way Reagan did with Iran-Contra. After all, Reagan not only survived the scandal but went on to become remembered as one of our greatest Presidents.

He said the first thing Obama needs to do is fire all of the sycophants he's surrounded himself with.

I bet he still wishes Giuliani won.

marshall

(6,706 posts)
22. It's always been the State Dept. vs. the White House
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:14 PM
May 2013

Or at least that's the latest spin.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
24. I can't say that I am shocked.
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:23 PM
May 2013

But this also brings home the very fact that any info we get via leaked infor and via the media, is so twisted and contorted, that to put any effort into the outrage is extremely shallow and impotent.

Clearly, there are always so many levels of activity behind the political scene that to draw a direct line between "a" and therefore "b" is absoltely ludicrous. 5 dimensional chess is being played by all parties involved.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
31. The e-mail suggests that the White House was trying to inform honestly while protecting the
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:56 PM
May 2013

investigation being conducted by the FBI. It also hints at interests of the State Department. My guess is that those State Dept. interests may have involved getting cooperation inside Libya in order to find those who committed the act of terror in Benghazi.

The e-mail confirms precisely what I have suspected all along. The only secrets that were withheld from the American public on this one concerned facts we did not need to know or facts that were highly classified because publicizing them would have interfered with the ongoing investigations.

I am usually quite concerned about open government, and I criticize the way our government is persecuting honest whistleblowers and those associated with Wikileaks who released information that was, as far as I can tell, not regarding ongoing investigations or events that needed to be classified and protected from public view. I could be wrong about this, but we shall see whether Manning really gave away secrets that harmed anyone or not.

The Republicans are so aggressive about protecting national security -- until a real national security threat arises, and then they want to use the threat (to anyone but a person with a menial IQ like Issa and the folks at Fox News) for their own propaganda purposes and to embarrass the Obama administration when the Obama administration is trying to balance providing information with wise foreign and security policy.

The Republicans have once again displayed their lack of honesty and patriotism. This is business as usual.

The poll on Republicans showing that 40% do not know where Benghazi is says it all. Ignorant by choice.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
32. Will the MSM learn from this? I doubt it. Will some DUers learn from this?
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:02 PM
May 2013

Inquiring minds want to know.

iamthebandfanman

(8,127 posts)
36. no, theyve moved on to the IRS story ..
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:31 PM
May 2013

retractions and any mistake correcting never gets as much press as the original anyway..
itll get one lil small blurb that only a hand full of people will ever see

rso

(2,676 posts)
37. Benghazi Bombshell
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:32 PM
May 2013

This needs immediate and very wide distribution. Even if the MSM do not run with it, Democratic politicians need to yell this out. It's now or never.

 

Sand Wind

(1,573 posts)
42. There should be 100 tweeds and 100 Facebook republish
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:29 PM
May 2013

If you dont trust the MSM to do the, job, how Is It that so few people work to make that story to trend the social media ?

You can do better. Dont forget the republican are using this story to raise money and prepare the ground for the next election.

Here a list of the 20 political journalists on tweeter.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/06/18/the-top-20-political-journalists-on-twitter/

 

Sand Wind

(1,573 posts)
48. Its my pleasure to help the democrate of this beautifull country to make It better. Nt
Wed May 15, 2013, 12:43 AM
May 2013
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
47. I was thinking ...
Tue May 14, 2013, 11:24 PM
May 2013

it must be really frustrating to be of the anti-(President) Obama "Left" these days. Every hair on fire thing fizzles.

 

Sand Wind

(1,573 posts)
50. I see Obama as a very honest person, as Is own core. And I'm a stranger, a muslim also.
Wed May 15, 2013, 12:51 AM
May 2013

And I see his as the most honest president in our modern history.

But he Is subject to some realities, and he must compose with them. So its our own responsabilities to remember him, and all the peoples in this empire, whats the realities, and whats the responsabilities of the American Empire.

Dawson Leery

(19,570 posts)
51. The timing of these "scandals" is highly suspicious.
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:00 AM
May 2013

The GOP and hate media are drumming up trouble to rile up their horrid base for 2014/16.

rightsideout

(978 posts)
53. Any comment from the Repukes on the "real" email?
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:04 AM
May 2013

I want to see how they plan to worm their way out of it.

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
63. At least Dan Rather
Wed May 15, 2013, 02:00 PM
May 2013

had documents in hand (faked or not). This reporter only had someone's word. What absolutely shoddy reporting to not require the actual email from his source. I and probably millions of others are never going to believe anything Jon Karl reports on again, so ABC might as well dump him now.

magellan

(13,257 posts)
55. The GOP is the party of intentional misrepresentations and lies
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:35 AM
May 2013

It's best not to believe a word off their lips until it's been fully vetted. The sad thing is, too many DO still believe them...and then the damage is done.

I'd like to see the GOP completely dismantled. It's a crime syndicate, not a political party.

Trekologer

(1,078 posts)
59. The GOPs problem is that they start believing their own lies
Wed May 15, 2013, 09:53 AM
May 2013

I'm not referring to their base but the actual elected officials. Leading up to the hearing, GOP congressman after congressman were jumping in front of whatever camera they could to talk up how much of a bombshell the hearing would be and that it was going to be the downfall of Obama. Then the hearing occurred and nothing came out of it. The witnesses even explicitly denied those characterizations the GOP had made before it.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
56. WHY did the Administration Force The GOP to lie to the press? WE MUST INVESTIGATE!!!
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:37 AM
May 2013

OR ELSE THE ADMINISTRATION RETROACTIVELY TIME-TRAVELED BACK AND RE-EDITED THE EMAILS!

CONVENE THE IMPEEEEEACHMENT!!!!

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
60. I read the news because I like to be informed, but am I really more informed by reading the news? nt
Wed May 15, 2013, 12:43 PM
May 2013
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