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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:20 PM May 2013

British schoolgirl "murdered" in bid to harvest her organs...

A Birmingham schoolgirl was murdered by health workers in India in a failed attempt to harvest her organs, her devastated parents have sensationally claimed.

The family of a British schoolgirl who died at a doctors’ clinic in India fear she could have been ‘murdered’ by medics intent on harvesting her organs.

Gurkiren Kaur Loyal’s parents took her to see doctors in the Punjab when she began suffering from dehydration 11 days into her first foreign holiday.

Her father, Santokh Ghatoara, and mother, Amritpal Kaur Loyal, claim that their eight-year-old daughter was ‘fine’ until she was given a mystery injection.

Yesterday they told how, within seconds of receiving the jab, Gurkiren’s ‘eyes rolled back into her head and her face drained of colour’ before she collapsed and died. ‘I knew they had killed her on the spot,’ said her mother.

Mr Ghatoara, a 57-year-old postal worker, and his wife were so fearful that their daughter’s organs could be taken and sold on for transplant that they insisted on taking her body back to a relative’s home.

The body was kept for four days in a freezer borrowed from a local Sikh temple before it was taken to a local hospital. There, a ‘medieval’ post-mortem examination was carried out.

Gurkiren’s parents had been told they would not be allowed to fly their child home without one. During the post-mortem, Gurkira’s organs were removed and have not been returned.

The Birmingham coroner, Aidan Cotter, has told the family that without them, or the Indian post-mortem report, he is at a loss to determine a cause of death.

A spokesman said staff were making inquiries into the whereabouts of Gurkiren’s missing organs. Only her eyes remained.



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The Foreign Office said: “We can confirm the death of a British national in Punjab on April 2, 2013. We provided consular assistance to the family at this difficult time.”

The Indian High Commission did not respond to messages from the Mail.

A spokeswoman for Mr Cotter said an inquest had been opened and adjourned as staff awaited further information and, possibly, the return of organs from India.

She said: “A post-mortem examination was carried out, but we were unable to ascertain a cause of death. We are doing everything we can to help the family."

The tragedy of Gurkiren Kaur Loyal has again thrown the spotlight on the reportedly “lucrative underground market” in human organs in India.

In 2007, Ravindranath Seppan, of the Chennai Doctors’ Association for Social Equality, admitted: “India’s rich are turning to India’s poor to live longer.”

He said the commercial trade of human organs remained big business, despite having been banned in 1994.


Full Story:

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/birmingham-schoolgirl-murdered-bid-harvest-3664848

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British schoolgirl "murdered" in bid to harvest her organs... (Original Post) HipChick May 2013 OP
My god. redqueen May 2013 #1
The West is supporting this trade HipChick May 2013 #2
For me, this proves three theories HeiressofBickworth May 2013 #3
Alternately, grieving parents can go to some pretty extreme lengths wickerwoman May 2013 #12
Ding ding we have a winner n/t malaise May 2013 #18
You don't harvest organs for transplant after a body is frozen four days. alphafemale May 2013 #4
No, it's right there with waking up in a bathtub full of ice in Juarez Warpy May 2013 #7
What other countries has has to ban sale of internal organs HipChick May 2013 #8
This is one of the most tragic things I've ever heard. Auntie Bush May 2013 #5
Shades of 'Coma' edbermac May 2013 #6
I don't know anything about organ transplants ohheckyeah May 2013 #9
The time limit to harvest organs is remarkably short. SheilaT May 2013 #10
... LittleBlue May 2013 #11
Probably nobody. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #17
I call bullshit Revanchist May 2013 #13
2 different motives for removing them. 1) For money 2) To remove evidence Turborama May 2013 #14
I can buy the cover-up for incompetence Revanchist May 2013 #15
If she was murdered for the organs the plan wouldn't have been to put her in a freezer for 4 days Turborama May 2013 #16
The dr disappeared after this happened.. HipChick May 2013 #19

HeiressofBickworth

(2,682 posts)
3. For me, this proves three theories
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:44 PM
May 2013

First, the rich will go to any expense to provide medical aid to themselves and

Second, the poor or defenseless are suitable prey for the rich and

Third, there are people so greedy they will perform any act on any person at any time in order to gain money.

Humans sometimes just sicken me beyond words. This is one of those times.

wickerwoman

(5,662 posts)
12. Alternately, grieving parents can go to some pretty extreme lengths
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:57 AM
May 2013

to find "answers" to why their child is gone.

There are literally millions of street kids in India with nobody at all looking out for them. If someone was looking to harvest organs, they would hardly need to kill a tourist's child *in front of her parents* and then go through all the paperwork.

Why cause an international incident when you could literally go out the back alley and kill a dozen kids that nobody would ever report missing?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
4. You don't harvest organs for transplant after a body is frozen four days.
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:46 PM
May 2013

I feel for their loss.

But the story is not at all credible.

Warpy

(111,169 posts)
7. No, it's right there with waking up in a bathtub full of ice in Juarez
Wed May 15, 2013, 11:11 PM
May 2013

with both your kidneys gone, pure urban legend horseshit.

However, the rich are using the poor as walking organ farms for kidneys and the like because few of the poor will turn down a lump sum payment for a kidney or lobe of a liver.

I don't know what killed this child. I just know it wasn't in a scam for her internal organs.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
5. This is one of the most tragic things I've ever heard.
Wed May 15, 2013, 10:49 PM
May 2013

Also one of the scariest! People (the 2% ) in the US could be obtaining those ill begotten organs.

ohheckyeah

(9,314 posts)
9. I don't know anything about organ transplants
Wed May 15, 2013, 11:55 PM
May 2013

but it doesn't seem plausible that organs would be used that had been frozen for four days.

I recently read a novel based on the theft of organs.....it was chilling.

I'm sorry for the girl's death. Whatever the cause, it was tragic.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
10. The time limit to harvest organs is remarkably short.
Thu May 16, 2013, 02:37 AM
May 2013

Definitely not four days after death, regardless of how the body was stored.

This story has a lot of problems.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
17. Probably nobody.
Thu May 16, 2013, 05:11 AM
May 2013

I can't claim certainty that this isn't true, but I'd be very surprised indeed if it were. It seems much more likely to be a matter of grieving parents getting desperate.

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
13. I call bullshit
Thu May 16, 2013, 03:11 AM
May 2013

My wife is an organ transplant recipient and she lost one of the transplant because it was damaged in transport and had to be immediately removed. Four days in a freezer would cause her cells to form water crystals and rupture. You're not going to harvest anything from a body that's been on ice for four days and gain usable organs.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
14. 2 different motives for removing them. 1) For money 2) To remove evidence
Thu May 16, 2013, 03:20 AM
May 2013

Without them, the coroner in England "is at a loss to determine a cause of death".

Revanchist

(1,375 posts)
15. I can buy the cover-up for incompetence
Thu May 16, 2013, 03:24 AM
May 2013

But not for black market organs, they would be useless in that case. I would like to know what was in the injection though, I wonder if she had an unknown allergic reaction that caused death?

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
16. If she was murdered for the organs the plan wouldn't have been to put her in a freezer for 4 days
Thu May 16, 2013, 03:36 AM
May 2013

There are 2 incidents.

1. Where the doctor is alleged to have murdered the girl for her organs (after which the parents took her away, otherwise he would have removed them there and then - according to their accusation).

2. The post mortem in the hospital after the girl's body had been in the freezer for 4 days, when for some reason they removed all her organs (possibly to hide/destroy evidence on behalf of the doctor - if he had done what he's accused of doing).

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