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DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 02:26 AM Feb 2021

IT IS A GOOD THING THAT TRUMP WAS ACQUITTED.

Last edited Sun Feb 14, 2021, 05:16 AM - Edit history (1)

1. The GOP wouldn't have voted for impeachment anyways.

2. An impeachment-trial is the wrong format to investigate the Capitol insurrection. You need a 9/11-style commission for that.

3. Republicans have shown during the Trump-administration that you can ignore a congressional subpoena with impunity. IIRC, a court even ruled that Congress has no executive means of enforcing a subpoena but has to sue in court to force someone into compliance.

4. As Jeff Sessions demonstrated, you can refuse to answer questions during a congressional deposition by claiming that you don't know whether your answer would violate executive privilege.

5. There is no way in hell, the Biden DOJ could prosecute anyone for lying under oath in such a MASSIVELY POLITICIZED trial.

6. The Republicans, and especially McConnell, would have dragged out the trial for weeks without any possible change in outcome, all the while keeping the US Senate from enacting Biden's agenda.

For example, now that Trump's impeachment trial is over, the Senate can FINALLY get to work on the nomination of Attorney-General Merrick Garland, which will FINALLY allow a DOJ-investigation of the Capitol-insurrection.

7. The impeachment was largely symbolical anyways. Preventing Trump from running again? Let's see him run again when the SDNY is through with its bank-fraud investigation... or when the defamation-suit with his rape-accuser can finally move forward without being torpedoed by the DOJ... or what happens if Scotland decides that they actually do want a money-laundering investigation into Trump's golf-course... or when the Biden-administration publishes his phone-calls with Putin, or his phone-call with Ukraine, or the unredacted Mueller-report... or what happens when the DOJ finally runs a counterintelligence investigation into the 2016 russian election meddling, something Mueller was explicitly forbidden to do? The Trump DOJ told Mueller to do a criminal investigation only.





Four years is a long time, Trump's closet is so full of skeletons you cannot even close the door anymore, and he is an obese 74yo man with heart-problems and quite likely a degenerative neurological condition that is being kept secret from the public. By the time he runs for office again in 2024, he will be 78 and his heart and his brain will be in an even worse condition.




So, yeah. Trump was acquitted, the Biden administration can finally get to work and the road has been paved for a full investigation by a commission. And that's fine by me.

Edit: Changed title of post.

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IT IS A GOOD THING THAT TRUMP WAS ACQUITTED. (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 2021 OP
Trump was impeached - twice lame54 Feb 2021 #1
Those stains will BlueMTexpat Feb 2021 #4
I do not think that word means what you think it means. Maru Kitteh Feb 2021 #2
He was impeached, but not convicted. Jamaal510 Feb 2021 #3
That the DOJ is going to do anything about trump angrychair Feb 2021 #5
Trump isn't the centre or origin of the disease. Aussie105 Feb 2021 #6
1924, following Beer Hall putsch My Pet Orangutan Feb 2021 #8
No, impeachment was the right thing to do as he was in office when he was impeached. cstanleytech Feb 2021 #7
No, it's not a good thing BadDog40 Feb 2021 #9
What chance are you talking about? DetlefK Feb 2021 #11
No Blues Heron Feb 2021 #10
But I disagree with one thing here... Trueblue Texan Feb 2021 #12
I don't agree that it was a good thing he was acquitted, even if expected msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #13
Don't agree with several points on your list, however ... jimlup Feb 2021 #14
I don't really care. What I do care about is that this whole Luz Feb 2021 #15

angrychair

(11,950 posts)
5. That the DOJ is going to do anything about trump
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 04:54 AM
Feb 2021

Is a fantasy.
Mitch the bitch will scream its a partisan attack because trump was acquitted in the Senate and smear the DOJ and so on. Its his standard playbook. His vote and statement today proves that is exactly what he will do.

As far as the rest of it, just because its hard. Just because it takes longer. That doesn't mean that witnesses were not worth hearing. That their testimony wasn't worth airing in front of the whole country.
It would have mattered.

How do you think Nixon's case would have gone without Dean's testimony?

Aussie105

(7,741 posts)
6. Trump isn't the centre or origin of the disease.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 05:05 AM
Feb 2021

Trump is merely a symptom.
Neutering Trump would not cure the disease.

The real disease is the Republican party. The worst examples of the disease need to be treated somehow.

Once the disease has been eradicated in the Republican party, they will lose interest in Trump 2024 automatically.

They just need some solid reminders that politicians have a duty of care to their electorates, and the pursuit and greed for personal power and money should not be on their 'to do' list.

My Pet Orangutan

(12,595 posts)
8. 1924, following Beer Hall putsch
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:27 AM
Feb 2021

Hitler is merely a symptom.
Neutering Hilter will not cure the disease.

cstanleytech

(28,327 posts)
7. No, impeachment was the right thing to do as he was in office when he was impeached.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 05:13 AM
Feb 2021

It was the Senate Republicans however who violated their sworn oaths by not voting to convict him for it as they should have done because to them their party is more important to them than the Constitution or the United States and its citizens.

BadDog40

(317 posts)
9. No, it's not a good thing
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:35 AM
Feb 2021

They had a chance to put an end to this Trump BS once and for all and they didn't, leaving the door open for him and his nut followers to create more chaos and attacks on our democracy.

 

DetlefK

(16,670 posts)
11. What chance are you talking about?
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:53 AM
Feb 2021

The Republican Party is split. Two thirds are pro-Trump, the other third wants to get rid of him and just move on. If the Republicans had pronounced Trump guilty, they would have risked splitting the party for good AND there is a significant chance that some MAGA-nutcase would have tried to kill them.

Plus, how exactly would a conviction have ended this whole craze? Would Republicans all of a sudden have stopped claiming that Trump won the election? Would the MAGAts have stopped plotting terror-attacks?

Blues Heron

(8,550 posts)
10. No
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:50 AM
Feb 2021

Its bad, lets face it. Anytime a murderer is let off the hook it's bad. There's no silver lining here. Nice try though.

Trueblue Texan

(4,278 posts)
12. But I disagree with one thing here...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:28 AM
Feb 2021

...I doubt Biden will ever publish Trump's phone calls with Putin. He just won't.

msfiddlestix

(8,172 posts)
13. I don't agree that it was a good thing he was acquitted, even if expected
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:38 AM
Feb 2021

Apart from the significant importance of Reckoning of Truth and Accountability, there is the matter of forever holding office again, continued security service, salary, medical and other benefits paid for by taxpayers.

jimlup

(8,009 posts)
14. Don't agree with several points on your list, however ...
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:24 AM
Feb 2021

I do agree that it is a much bigger burden on the Republican party that he was acquitted. Now they must wear that badge of shame forever ..

Luz

(917 posts)
15. I don't really care. What I do care about is that this whole
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:25 AM
Feb 2021

impeachment trial is part of the record forever. History will not be kind.

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