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True or False? In the end, the war in Iraq was a Republican war. (Original Post) es466 May 2013 OP
Republican Oil Profiteering, Inc. (R) Berlum May 2013 #1
False, both parties share the blame for the bullshit CBGLuthier May 2013 #2
name some names then zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #3
Neither of them held office at the time of the IWR vote, of course. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #8
Kerry, Harkin roody May 2013 #10
and? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #11
Clinton chewed a lot of Iraqi's bodies during his terms Whisp May 2013 #12
you mean when he was enforcing zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #13
that and sanctions that killed so many. Whisp May 2013 #14
so you supported SH? zerosumgame0005 May 2013 #17
yeh, 'that's the price to be payed'. Whisp May 2013 #18
But without a Republican in the White House, thucythucy May 2013 #6
"Mission Accomplished" was pretty Bush-centric, NO? WinkyDink May 2013 #15
Oddly enough, the banner was made by the Navy and the WH was nervous about it Recursion May 2013 #23
I strongly disagree with your assertion. They Dems are a long way from perfect. But, to ladjf May 2013 #26
True. Hands down. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #4
True. Bush started it, Obama ended it. Dash87 May 2013 #5
It was cosponsored by Gephardt in the House and Daschle in the Senate Recursion May 2013 #7
And roughly 100% of Republicans voted for it. JoePhilly May 2013 #21
F, look at the votes. roody May 2013 #9
It was, to follow our time-honored nomenclature, BUSH'S WAR. WinkyDink May 2013 #16
True. Caused solely by Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #19
True. And they made everyone else fight and pay for it. JoePhilly May 2013 #20
Conceived of, planned, implemented & finally scewed up by Republicans. From beginning to end. baldguy May 2013 #22
I say true, because it was a part of a larger goal Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #24
False - Hell Hath No Fury May 2013 #25

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. False, both parties share the blame for the bullshit
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:22 AM
May 2013

Seems both parties were quite eager to chew bodies and drink blood.

 

zerosumgame0005

(207 posts)
3. name some names then
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:26 AM
May 2013

Bill Clinton was "quite eager to chew bodies and drink blood"? prove it
Al Franken was "quite eager to chew bodies and drink blood"? prove it

who are you trying smear?

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
8. Neither of them held office at the time of the IWR vote, of course.
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:44 AM
May 2013

A majority of Democrats in both chambers voted YES on the invasion. This was years prior to Franken being elected, but Biden voted yes, Hillary Clinton voted yes, all of Obama's Secs of Defense were both Republicans and war supporters. Had more Democrats voted NO, war could have been halted, instead the Yes voting Democrats have all been promoted and the NO voters shunned for being too smart, wise and courageous for DC.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
14. that and sanctions that killed so many.
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:00 AM
May 2013

but don't mention That! Clinton's are only about Peace and Loooooove.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
18. yeh, 'that's the price to be payed'.
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:12 AM
May 2013

kill tens of thousands of kids and blame it on Sadam.

He made me do it!

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
6. But without a Republican in the White House,
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:29 AM
May 2013

stoking the war fever, and without Republicans willing to target anyone against it (including a triple amputee war hero like Max Cleland) as "soft on terrorism," and without the Cheney/Rumsfeld axis doctoring the intelligence, I doubt it would have happened.

Not to mention, I can't picture Al Gore getting a memo titled "Bin Laden determined to strike inside US" and deciding, in response, to go on another vacation. Or deciding, in response to an attack plotted in Aghanistan, and undertaken by Saudis and Egyptians, to invade Iraq.

My recollection is Al Gore was out quite early opposing the war.

So yeah, for all these reasons, I'd call it a Republican War.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
23. Oddly enough, the banner was made by the Navy and the WH was nervous about it
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:21 AM
May 2013

Because they weren't stupid, and knew exactly how it would play. However, the aircraft carrier's mission had been accomplished, and the captain wanted to congratulate the crew.

Also, in the interest of preserving things from the memory hole, Bush's "mission accomplished" speech was several months later; on the aircraft carrier he didn't use those words and in fact talked about the need to do more in Iraq.

ladjf

(17,320 posts)
26. I strongly disagree with your assertion. They Dems are a long way from perfect. But, to
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:29 AM
May 2013

lump them in on an equal basis with the Republicans when it comes to war mongering seems totally without any objective basis. (From the Bush administrations forward.)

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. True. Hands down.
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:27 AM
May 2013

Although the Democrats were cowed because of 9/11/2001, it was launched and lobbied exclusively by Republicans and the idiots who continue to vote for them as well as the enablers who have allowed it to happen because they believe that "there's no difference between Al Gore and Bush".

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. It was cosponsored by Gephardt in the House and Daschle in the Senate
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:44 AM
May 2013

40% of House Democrats voted for it; 60% of Senate Democrats voted for it. An "aye" was whipped (albeit mildly) by the leadership in both chambers.

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
22. Conceived of, planned, implemented & finally scewed up by Republicans. From beginning to end.
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:20 AM
May 2013

True.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
24. I say true, because it was a part of a larger goal
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:24 AM
May 2013

to change and shape the middle east into something that could be profited from. There was even a conservative group that had mapped this all out long before it happened. I forget the name.

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