Will Obama piss away the rest of his presidency sucking up to Repubs and playing the scandal game?

[yurbud]

The article on Huffington Post about Obama musing about going "Bulworth" prompted this.

The guy has done some good in office (cue THE LIST posters), but for the most part, he has spend his whole first term and first part of his second trying to prove to Republicans that he doesn't really like Democratic ideas either.

I'm not an idiot. It ain't about ideology or bad "strategery." Like the Republicans, he's playing to the big money people, and if he didn't, he wouldn't have made it as far as the White House, and wouldn't have been allowed to stay there.

But since the Republicans are going to threaten to impeach him no matter what, why not earn it by doing something good and daring the GOP to undo it?

Figure out what the most is he can do with executive orders, or in foreign policy to set things right, and watch the right wing wither like the Wicked Witch in the Wizard of Oz when they threw water on her.

Hell, he could even do some good with just his declassification power: declassify the Saudi pages of the Joint Congressional Inquiry into 9/11 and destroy the very last shred of GOP claim to be the better party on defending America.

Set the Justice Department after the vote riggers, and felon voter purgers, or hell even Wall Street. Treat those who destroyed the world economy with the same legal creativity he did some crank in Yemen whose blog posts MIGHT have inspired POTENTIAL terrorist acts.

He would be a hero and make it easier for Democrats to hold onto the White House and retake both chambers of congress.

Will he do any of that or will he continue to tape a kick me sign to his own ass before bending over in a room full of Republicans?

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[Octafish]

1. I voted for an Activist.

I got a Caretaker.

[villager]

2. we all did. Only "going Bulworth" can save his legacy, at this point

n/t

[Cary]

3. No but a lot of people will whine about it.

President Obama will continue to do as much as he can. The demographics will continue to favor Democrats more and more. "Conservatives" will dwindle.

It would be nice if more leftists became more practical, realistic, and relevant but over time that won't be necessary either.

[bowens43]

54. You really beleive that? Seriously?

Wow.

Leftists huh? Ok that tells me all I need to know.

[msongs]

4. you need to be more bipartisan and reach across the aisle because repubs love the USA too :-) nt

[yurbud]

8. they love America the way Jeffrey Dahmer loved his victims:

medium rare with some A1 sauce.

[Cary]

9. Pretty much.

Says it all right there.

[Nay]

55. As the Magistrate says: "They love America the way a flea loves a dog."

[yurbud]

56. and when the dog is a desiccated corpse, they move on

[Nay]

57. Exactly. nt

[Tx4obama]

5. At Press Conference Obama Lights a Match and Sends the GOP’s IRS Scandal Up In Smoke

At Press Conference Obama Lights a Match and Sends the GOP’s IRS Scandal Up In Smoke

Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/press-conference-obama-lights-match-sends-gops-irs-scandal-smoke.html

[Junkdrawer]

6. I have to recuse myself. I've seen the answer....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014485013

[mick063]

7. Obama is a placeholder

A most forgettable President.

[treestar]

10. What is "sucking up" to Republicans?

Trying to get anything passed in a House dominated by them?

If they lose the house in 2014, no.

[yurbud]

14. How was Obama's strategery any different BEFORE Democrats lost the house?

[byeya]

11. Yes. It suits his threadbare vision of America.

[CakeGrrl]

12. Another day, another

'How MUCH does Obama suck?' thread/"poll"

Don't get carpal tunnel - we're only a few months into the second term and the GOP can't quite get impeachment charges to stick!

[yurbud]

17. so we should only cheerlead or keep our mouths shut? Do you know this is a DISCUSSION BOARD?

[Sekhmets Daughter]

18. A jury voted 6/0 Leave It Alone.

At Thu May 16, 2013, 06:21 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Another day, another
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2853396

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If we can't discuss negative as well as positive ideas about the Democratic Party and Democratic politicians and candidates, I'm not sure why we need a discussion board. This would just be a place for politicians to post their press releases and our only contribution would be to praise them.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu May 16, 2013, 06:58 PM, and the Jury voted 0-6 to LEAVE IT.

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Pathetic alert-get a life.
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[Number23]

30. Juror #6 just won this thread. Too bad it's such a crappy prize.

[graham4anything]

26. YUP.

[pnwmom]

13. Playing the scandal game? That's right; it's all his fault. n/t

[yurbud]

15. he seemed to lean into the punch on the IRS one--there's no chance that bureaucrats were doing their

jobs correctly and the GOP is squealing like a stuck pig because they ARE a stuck pig?

[pnwmom]

16. Steven Miller apparently withheld information about the issue at a hearing.

That would be enough reason to let him go.

http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130516/POLITICS03/305160364/Head-IRS-ousted-amid-controversy?odyssey=tab%7Ctopnews%7Ctext%7CFRONTPAGE

An inspector general's report does not indicate that Miller knew conservative groups were being targeted until after the practice ended. But documents show that Miller repeatedly failed to tell Congress that tea party groups were being targeted, even after he had been briefed on the matter.

The IRS said Miller was first informed on May, 3, 2012, that applications for tax-exempt status by tea party groups were inappropriately singled out for extra, sometimes burdensome scrutiny.

At least twice after the briefing, Miller wrote letters to members of Congress to explain the process of reviewing applications for tax-exempt status without revealing that tea party groups had been targeted. On July 25, 2012, Miller testified before the House Ways and Means oversight subcommittee but again was not forthcoming on the issue — despite being asked about it.

[Capt. Obvious]

19. I hope Scandlepalooza dies down by the end of the year

Or else the House deficit will grow - and the Senate may even be lost.

Senate will be a tough row anyway - no need to make it harder.

[Poll_Blind]

20. Not only will he suck up to them until his last day in office, AFTER he leaves office he's...

...going to write a big motherfucking fat book about how he wished he could have been more liberal.

Just like he said to my House Representative, Peter DeFazio "Don't think we aren't keeping score, brother!"

Indeed!

PB

[Egalitarian Thug]

21. Bingo! +1 for you & K&R for the thread. n/t

[graham4anything]

27. when he leaves office, he will be nominated and seated on the US Supreme Court as planned.

[MineralMan]

22. Screw this thread and poll!

Enough, already.

[Blue_Roses]

24. thank-you

Nt

[Cha]

23. Fucking trash.

[quinnox]

25. whoa. 94% are not optimistic so far about Obama's second term

yikes!

[graham4anything]

28. 94% of one clique.

[Number23]

29. LOL!! You are TRULY desperate.

94% of 45 people on a trashy poll that's been sitting here with 4 recs for the last seven hours.

[CakeGrrl]

34. That just means that

the other 6% of people who've been complaining about him since 2008 have yet to arrive.

[Buzz Clik]

31. It's Thursday. Time for our daily dose of "I hate Obama" bullshit.

zzzzzt!

[yurbud]

37. I don't hate or love the guy--I simply want to see him vigorously pursue Democratic policies

preferably as vigorously as Bush pursued destructive conservative ones.

[Whisp]

32. rubbish wrapped up garbage - all steenkin' and shit.

[SoCalDem]

33. The choice is not his.

As long as republicans control the house, the investigations will continue. He cannot ignore them.

MOST people think voting every 4 years is "enough", and then everything goes on autopilot

The really important elections happen locally/statewide and in the off-years.

A president with a mandate cannot get anything accomplished if the house/senate are not with him(her).

Politicos are only interested in their own jobs, and will do whatever is necessary to prolong their DC-Adventure, even if it's to the detriment of the nation.

The minute the election was called for Obama, the race for the next one was underway.

Presidents no longer get to enact their own agendas and are stymied at every opportunity, so the opposition can make a case for their own party returning to power.

It's insane.

Only in politics, is this allowed/encouraged/rewarded.

Imagine going on job interviews with several people..you are chosen, but when you start your new job, all the other applicants show up every day and harass you..the person you replaced is there too, bad-mouthing/sabotaging you. The people you work with question everything you do, and often side with the ones not chosen/the one fired.

[Zorra]

35. He'll keep doing what the 1% orders him to do.

"The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. The great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dictates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . . " ~ Subcomandante Marcos

[yurbud]

36. that seems to be the case

[woo me with science]

40. This is the correct answer. nt

[forestpath]

52. +1

[KoKo]

38. It's not looking good...but, then

some thought it wasn't "Lookin' Good" for awhile now.

Who Knows?

[woo me with science]

39. "Piss away" implies that nothing important will be done.

Expect extremely serious and damaging further betrayals, including approval of The Keystone pipeline, the job- and wage-destroying Trans-Pacific free trade agreement, further corporatization and privatization of our schools, malignant austerity, and expansion of the police state and private prisons.

We are in serious, serious trouble.

[limpyhobbler]

41. Sound like Reagan's wet dream.

Hardly pissing it away.... it seems like he's implementing this extreme agenda more effectively than any Republican could have.

[yurbud]

43. who was it that said the Democratic Party is where progressive ideas go to die?

It's also where conservative ideas go to get a new coat of paint and be trotted out as "bipartisan" or "post-partisan" non-ideological solutions, which are all the new ways to say just fucking corrupt.

[Egalitarian Thug]

53. But he will back a few bits of feel-good legislation so his public relations

people have some material to work with and to give the "other side" something to rail against, things like marriage equality that is a good thing and will make many people happy, while being of no significant consequence.

[HiPointDem]

42. yes. nothing's going to change; in fact, it's going to get worse.

[Egalitarian Thug]

51. +1 The interesting times have only just begun. He and his appointed shills have dug

hole so deep for us that we will never fully recover and what recovery we will achieve will take many, many years.

[JoePhilly]

44. The haters only have 3.5 years left

To whine.

It'll be fun to watch.

[yurbud]

45. Haters? that's a pretty juvenile response. But thanks for kicking this back to the top of the forum

[JoePhilly]

46. Did I strike a nerve?

And why not kick it back to the top .... as I said ... its fun to watch the anti-Obama folks suffer ... and that's true whether they are from the far right or the far left.

The one group screams that Obama is an evil dictator, and the other screams that he's "pissing away his Presidency". And each of those groups thinks the other is crazy.

Again, its fun to watch.

[SidDithers]

47. Will progressives piss and moan regardless of what he does?...nt

Sid

[yurbud]

49. will corrupt corporate Democrats make a mockery of our democracy by siding with Republicans?

and which is the bigger sin?

[SidDithers]

50. So that's a yes, then...nt

Sid

[Addison]

48. No matter what the GOP throws at Obama, he'll still get a lot done -- for Wall Street. n/t

[yurbud]

58. they will quietly help him with that.