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Segami

(14,923 posts)
Thu May 16, 2013, 07:52 PM May 2013

WOW, This is Pretty EPIC

Generally, once partisan, tendentious sources leak information that turns out to be wrong, nothing’s ever done about it. That’s for many reasons, some good or somewhat understandable, mostly bad. But on CBS Evening News tonight, Major Garrett did something I don’t feel like I’ve seen in a really long time or maybe ever on a network news cast. He basically said straight out: Republicans told us these were the quotes, that wasn’t true. Quick transcript after the jump …



SCOTT PELLEY: Also at his news conference today the president called for tighter security for U.S. diplomatic facilities to prevent an attack like the one in Benghazi, Libya, last year that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans. Of course, Benghazi has become a political controversy. Republicans claim that the Administration watered down the facts in talking points that were given to U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice for television appearances while Mr. Obama was running for reelection. Republicans on Capitol Hill claim that they had found proof of this in White House e-mails that they leaked to reporters last week. Well, it turns out some of the quotes in those e-mails were wrong. Major Garrett is at the White House for us tonight. Major?

MAJOR GARRETT: Scott, Republicans have claimed that the State Department under Hillary Clinton was trying to protect itself from criticism. The White House released the real e-mails late yesterday and here’s what we found when we compared them to the quotes that had been provided by Republicans. One e-mail was written by Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes. On Friday, Republicans leaked what they said was a quote from Rhodes. “We must make sure that the talking points reflect all agency equities, including those of the State Department, and we don’t want to undermine the FBI investigation.” But it turns out, in the actual e-mail Rhodes did not mention the State Department. It read “We need to resolve this in a way that respects all the relevant equities, particularly the investigation.” Republicans also provided what they said was a quote from an e-mail written by State Department Spokesman Victoria Nuland. The Republican version notes Nuland discussing: “The penultimate point is a paragraph talking about all the previous warnings provided by the Agency (CIA) about al-Qaeda’s presence and activities of al-Qaeda.” The actual e-mail from Nuland says: the “…penultimate point could be abused by Members to beat the State Department for not paying attention to Agency warnings…” The C.I.A. agreed with the concerns raised by the State Department and revised the talking points to make them less specific than the C.I.A.’s original version, eliminating references to al-Qaeda and affiliates and earlier security warnings. There is no evidence, Scott, the White House orchestrated these changes.





[ed.note: This is a rush transcription so some spelling and capitalization is off.]


http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2013/05/wow_this_is_pretty_epic.php?ref=fpblg
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WOW, This is Pretty EPIC (Original Post) Segami May 2013 OP
FOX News, Rove and the republican clowns will not be discouraged. liberal N proud May 2013 #1
Bobby Jindal was right about one thing: they really are proving themselves to be the stupid party. Initech May 2013 #16
K&RRRR Very Unusual! thank you, Segami Cha May 2013 #2
Your welcome....Rethugs are nothing but liars! Segami May 2013 #4
OMG! pacalo May 2013 #7
That picture is epic. bluedigger May 2013 #9
LOL!!! You should post that in an OP of its own - that is great :) n/t Tx4obama May 2013 #10
They've earned their ugly noses. Cha May 2013 #11
If you are among the wealthiest Americans, you are, by definition, not a small business-owner. JDPriestly May 2013 #40
I thought I heard that a small business was one that Auntie Bush May 2013 #47
If that is true, we need to change the definition. JDPriestly May 2013 #48
+1 uponit7771 May 2013 #36
is that how he got the name boner? napkinz May 2013 #38
K&R! sheshe2 May 2013 #3
Or, as Stephanie Miller would add SCVDem May 2013 #5
This part... pacalo May 2013 #6
Yes, THAT would be something to look into siligut May 2013 #14
The funny thing is that Major Garrett used to work for Fox. BlueCheese May 2013 #8
Wow.. I thought he was still working for fox.. I hadn't caught Cha May 2013 #12
Major Garrett has become more liberal in his analysis since moving to CBS. TexasTowelie May 2013 #45
ReTHUGS never learn malaise May 2013 #13
It is the same BS they used in the Global Warming scandal,just re-branded Rain Mcloud May 2013 #15
So Republikans are just makin' shit up now, huhmmmm?? lastlib May 2013 #17
I have lost all timdog44 May 2013 #30
Republicans can never win.... zentrum May 2013 #18
Or win the best trick, twisting a democrats arm with blackmail and bribes. nt Kokonoe May 2013 #44
I wish I had seen this before I posted my thread CatWoman May 2013 #19
Thanks for the video link CatWoman...... Segami May 2013 #21
... CatWoman May 2013 #22
LIAR, LIAR, Republicans pants are on fire.... Historic NY May 2013 #20
their hatred of Barack Obama is beyond politics. spanone May 2013 #23
I agree and quite frankly, I don't believe their hatred has even come close to cresting. Segami May 2013 #24
Their hatred is now treason. Zoeisright May 2013 #25
Maybe we should ask John Boner Politicalboi May 2013 #26
KICK patrice May 2013 #27
But "wasn't true" lacks the force and precision of tblue37 May 2013 #28
K & R Scurrilous May 2013 #29
Doing what Republicans do...LIE, LIE, LIE AllyCat May 2013 #31
manipulating media is an exericise in social brainwashing peoli May 2013 #32
Repubicans have zero integrity AgingAmerican May 2013 #33
So ... Garrett is speaking during this quote, right? brett_jv May 2013 #34
misreading tiny elvis May 2013 #49
A con on HP tried to say Obama leaked the altered docs to make the GOP look bad. ctsnowman May 2013 #35
Those idiots probably thought that Major Garrett (former Faux news reporter) would "play ball" and MADem May 2013 #42
Unfortunatley the lay voter has already heard enough contortions and lies Sheepshank May 2013 #37
All of this is sure blowing out of the water some of the shit that was posted as fact earlier this madokie May 2013 #39
Major Garrett was trained at Faux. He understands just how to deliver a righteous screwing. MADem May 2013 #41
Rec #151 and Heathen57 May 2013 #43
So these mofos think they can impeach Obama because of their lies? Blue Owl May 2013 #46
Rachel covering this on MSNBC napkinz May 2013 #50
KICK! patrice May 2013 #51
kick napkinz May 2013 #52

liberal N proud

(61,194 posts)
1. FOX News, Rove and the republican clowns will not be discouraged.
Thu May 16, 2013, 07:55 PM
May 2013

They have been looking for anything they can for 5 years to do a tar & feather job.

Initech

(108,785 posts)
16. Bobby Jindal was right about one thing: they really are proving themselves to be the stupid party.
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:16 PM
May 2013

Cha

(319,134 posts)
11. They've earned their ugly noses.
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:18 PM
May 2013
John Boehner's file:

"There's no plan from Senate Democrats or the White House to replace the sequester."

"The problem with raising tax rates on the wealthiest Americans is that more than half of them are small business owners."

"The president went on a stimulus-fueled spending binge that stuck every American man, woman and child with a $50,000 share of this $16 trillion debt."

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/john-boehner/

It's Politifact but we know they got these lies right.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
40. If you are among the wealthiest Americans, you are, by definition, not a small business-owner.
Fri May 17, 2013, 03:13 PM
May 2013

Even if you own a small business, it isn't your ownership of that small business that makes you wealthy, it's the things you own besides your small business.

A few of the wealthiest Americans may have started out as small businessmen, but they can no longer be characterized as "small" businessmen once they have accumulated enough wealth to be described as "among the wealthiest Americans."

A small businessman is by definition one who earns a small amount of money from his business and has only a limited number of employees.

The corner grocery is a small business. A grocery chain with a number of affiliates -- Trader Joe's comes to mind -- is not a small business.

That's the way I see it anyway.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
47. I thought I heard that a small business was one that
Fri May 17, 2013, 06:27 PM
May 2013

had less than 500 employes. That makes most businesses small businesses. If that is true...we need to change the definition of small business.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
48. If that is true, we need to change the definition.
Fri May 17, 2013, 07:11 PM
May 2013

500 employees with 500 computers can do a lot more than 500 employees with pens and pencils and big pads of paper.

Times have changed. The definition of a "small" business should too.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
5. Or, as Stephanie Miller would add
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:40 PM
May 2013

You're a lying sack of crap, you're a lying sack of crap ..............

Sing along!

pacalo

(24,857 posts)
6. This part...
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:42 PM
May 2013
The C.I.A. agreed with the concerns raised by the State Department and revised the talking points to make them less specific than the C.I.A.’s original version, eliminating references to al-Qaeda and affiliates and earlier security warnings.


...leads me to believe that someone in the CIA had to have given the original, unrevised version to the Republicans. Who else would have had access to the original?

BlueCheese

(2,522 posts)
8. The funny thing is that Major Garrett used to work for Fox.
Thu May 16, 2013, 08:46 PM
May 2013

I guess it's curable, after all.

Cha

(319,134 posts)
12. Wow.. I thought he was still working for fox.. I hadn't caught
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:20 PM
May 2013

that in the OP that he was cbs now. thanks Blue

TexasTowelie

(127,383 posts)
45. Major Garrett has become more liberal in his analysis since moving to CBS.
Fri May 17, 2013, 05:48 PM
May 2013

I recall a story a couple of months ago where he aligned the Democratic version of the story (the truth) rather than adopt GOP talking points. Hopefully the good journalistic work will impress TPTB at CBS.

malaise

(296,173 posts)
13. ReTHUGS never learn
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:24 PM
May 2013

That's the good part - they make up stuff and repeat it over and over - finally they are being called on it.

 

Rain Mcloud

(812 posts)
15. It is the same BS they used in the Global Warming scandal,just re-branded
Thu May 16, 2013, 09:52 PM
May 2013

and probably from the same petro industry funded thinktank as well.
I guess since the thinktank morons delete all their e-mail then they suppose that that is that.
Pssst,nothing goes away on the interwebitubes my young scholars. No charge for the hint and for the next lesson:
Shit versus Shinola

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
30. I have lost all
Fri May 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
May 2013

faith in the government. Republicans making things up!! I can't go on.

zentrum

(9,870 posts)
18. Republicans can never win....
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:19 PM
May 2013

....anything on the merits of their case. They only "win" by cheating, stealing, hiding ballots, being selected by partisan Supreme Court Justices and speaking in dog whistles. The party of Rove, Cheney, Cantor, Norquist---all a criminal organization.

 

Segami

(14,923 posts)
24. I agree and quite frankly, I don't believe their hatred has even come close to cresting.
Thu May 16, 2013, 10:49 PM
May 2013
 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
26. Maybe we should ask John Boner
Thu May 16, 2013, 11:04 PM
May 2013

Who's going to jail.

My guess is he said that only because he was pissed at Nancy Pelosi for saying he was a weak speaker.

tblue37

(68,437 posts)
28. But "wasn't true" lacks the force and precision of
Fri May 17, 2013, 12:22 AM
May 2013

"was a LIE"!

Why can't anyone call Republican lies lies?

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
33. Repubicans have zero integrity
Fri May 17, 2013, 01:32 PM
May 2013

They lie. They cheat. They steal. They back stab.

Why do they exist?

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
34. So ... Garrett is speaking during this quote, right?
Fri May 17, 2013, 01:54 PM
May 2013

"The C.I.A. agreed with the concerns raised by the State Department and revised the talking points to make them less specific than the C.I.A.’s original version, eliminating references to al-Qaeda and affiliates and earlier security warnings. There is no evidence, Scott, the White House orchestrated these changes."

I don't understand what he's saying here ... someone with more experience in this subject clue me in?

It sounds like he's saying that the GOP version is not 'fake' ... but rather, just an earlier, un-redacted version... And hence, in a sense, more 'real'.

Am I misreading that, or ???

BTW, how does this Garrett guy know what the CIA 'agreed' about, or 'what they did' in terms of removing references? Sounds like editorializing/guessing to me.

tiny elvis

(979 posts)
49. misreading
Fri May 17, 2013, 07:50 PM
May 2013

the CIA’s original version (of the object in the same phrase)

revised talking points being public statements

the email contained the concerns raised by the State Department

the CIA agreed with those concerns

so

The C.I.A. agreed with the concerns raised by the State Department (in the email)

Garrett was not clear

MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. Those idiots probably thought that Major Garrett (former Faux news reporter) would "play ball" and
Fri May 17, 2013, 04:27 PM
May 2013

go along.

They mistakenly believed that he was still on the team.....

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
37. Unfortunatley the lay voter has already heard enough contortions and lies
Fri May 17, 2013, 02:13 PM
May 2013

about this subject form the screeching Reps and the hollering media. This corrected chapter won't be represented publically at all.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
39. All of this is sure blowing out of the water some of the shit that was posted as fact earlier this
Fri May 17, 2013, 02:21 PM
May 2013

week by a few here, huh.
By some of our 'alt media'
Makes what G4A was saying yesterday morning about being owed an apology by the alt media all the more sweeter.
It gets no better than this

MADem

(135,425 posts)
41. Major Garrett was trained at Faux. He understands just how to deliver a righteous screwing.
Fri May 17, 2013, 04:25 PM
May 2013

And he's doing just that, under the imprimatur of a more respected news organization.

Major Garrett knows who his sources were, too. It'll get around, even if he doesn't say a fricken word.

Heathen57

(573 posts)
43. Rec #151 and
Fri May 17, 2013, 04:37 PM
May 2013

proud to be.

If the blatant lies from this spectacle doesn't convince the Cons voters to rethink their support then they are hopeless. Well past ignorance and firmly into the zone of stupidity.

Blue Owl

(59,120 posts)
46. So these mofos think they can impeach Obama because of their lies?
Fri May 17, 2013, 06:26 PM
May 2013

Go fuck yourselves GOP

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