The NRA has become the armed insurgency wing of the Republican party.

[Gravitycollapse]

It should no longer be viewed as merely a lobbying group or a representative of American voices.

It is supported by self-proclaimed would-be assassins. It uses violent rhetoric as intimidation. It sends out political hit squads for public leaders who do not fall in line.

The National Rifle Association is a clear and present danger to all Americans.

They profit off the proliferation of violence, death and suffering.

The only option we have now is to push back socially and legally until this insurgency is extinguished for good.

[patrice]

1. An ESSENTIAL THREAT by owners relative to those of us who CHOOSE not to own guns.

[hack89]

4. So every single gun owner is an actual threat to you? Really. nt

[patrice]

30. The article "a" or "an" indicates one. & What are guns for? And what about those of us

who do not choose to be identified with that threat of the ultimate violence, for . . . ? whatever any gun owner decides it is for, a "right" that I do not recognize, because it is a privileged endowed by THREAT.

[patrice]

32. A "right", actually a privilege bestowed by OWNERSHIP that I do not recognize especially in the

claims of SECRECY and anonymity that it also expropriates through threat.

NOT the behavior of a respectful community member who lives with those who have chosen NOT to own that kind of fascistic power, for the sake of their beloved communities.

[patrice]

2. US politics is being heald hostage by ARMED members of the NRA & Other PRIVATE

corporate persons with some mighty big MEDIA VOICE.

& Protected by the US Congress, $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ...

[davidn3600]

6. And the Constitution?

Do you think America's founders intended for the federal government to ever be able to track or remove firearms from the populace?

[Gravitycollapse]

12. The founders were slave-owning rapists. I'm not particularly concerned with what they thought.

[davidn3600]

33. We're sort of bound to following their document though

Unless the constitution is amended, what those founders wrote is the laws we live by. That's how a constitutional republic works. We can change our government at any time, as long as we have the votes necessary for change. At the moment, we do not. A repeal of the 2nd amendment is impossible. You need 37 states to agree...right now you might get one or two. And you will never get 2/3rds of congress. I doubt youd even get 50%. So we are stuck with it, like it or not.

[AnotherMcIntosh]

59. Some were. Some weren't.

[patrice]

62. The Founders were Tories who thought women were property & slaves & endentured servants as

nothing but someone to order around without caring about them as human beings or providing for their needs. And Indigenous as not much more than weeds or fur bearing animals. Some horrible things happened between servants and employers too who acted as though they were property. VERY sad times in American History. . . .

pretty much formalized in The Constitution.

[sigmasix]

63. founders intentions

The founders never intended the 2nd amendment to be used to arm violent felons and emotionally unstable paranoid conspiracy theory mongers.

The NRA is responsible for the re-arming of criminals and the proliferation of anti-American paranoid conspiracy theories. Teabagging NRA members hate America and the liberties won in the civil war- the NRA is not a gun education and safety organization; they are a club for misanthropes that hate life, liberty and our babies. Every NRA member I've ever met turned out to be a cowardly fox "news" consumer and virulent racist.
Good people recognize hate-fueled lies and Americans are starting to recognize these cowardly baby killers for who they are.

[freshwest]

68. ^^^^Harsh, but there it is^^^^

[donnasgirl]

24. You did not

Answer hacks question,

[galileoreloaded]

3. and i heard they eat babys too!

not an nra fan but sheesh.

[Gravitycollapse]

5. Sheesh, what?

[BainsBane]

34. The real threats to America

Is not the NRA but pitbulls and women.

[Pyrzqxgl]

55. and people who listen to Kenny G records

[BainsBane]

57. That one I agree with

as long as you throw in Celine Dion.

[NaturalHigh]

7. I'm going to file this OP in the "whatever" category.

BTW - yes, I own guns. No, people like you don't get to decide to take them.

[Gravitycollapse]

9. And what if we do decide to take them. What then will you do?

[NaturalHigh]

10. Are you personally going to come over and try?

[Gravitycollapse]

11. Would it matter if it was me or someone else?

I'm just wondering how far you're willing to go to protect your guns.

[NaturalHigh]

13. Well, first, I'm probably going to laugh hysterically at you.

[Gravitycollapse]

14. And after you laugh, then what will you do?

[NaturalHigh]

15. Do you seriously think I'm going to let you bait me into answering that?

[Gravitycollapse]

16. This truly is not bait. Are you going to shoot the people who try to take your guns?

[NaturalHigh]

17. Oh hell, fine. You win.

I'm going to cry like a baby and beg you not to hurt me as you steal my property. Will that be okay?

I truly hope to never have to shoot anybody.

[Gravitycollapse]

18. So, in actuality, people like myself do get to take your guns. Is that a good assumption?

[Lizzie Poppet]

23. You're a soldier?

[Gravitycollapse]

25. Nope.

[Lizzie Poppet]

28. Ah...

So the folks that would actually conduct confiscation aren't "people like myself," a'tall.

Not that this required clarification...

[NaturalHigh]

35. You really want an answer? Here.

First, if you attempt to come into my house, I'm going to assume you mean my family harm. Yes, I will likely shoot.

Second, yes there are gun nuts. There are also anti-gun nuts. I despise the latter even more than the former. If I were the victim of a gun crime, they would use my misfortune to further their agenda, but if I were to defend myself with a firearm, they would want me imprisoned. They are hypocrites to say the least.

Yes, I believe there is an agenda to completely disarm the populace. I've certainly seen and heard nothing from people like you to dissuade me from that belief.

I also believe the 2nd Amendment gives individuals the rights to bear arms, and I have absolutely no use for people who are so self-righteous they believe that they, in their wisdom, should be able to piss on those constitutional rights.

Again, I truly hope to never have to shoot (or otherwise harm) anyone. I don't hunt, and I don't even shoot for fun. I'm just a realist who believes that firearms are sometimes necessary. Unicorns don't exist. A pot of gold at the end of the rainbow would be a statistical anomaly. Relying on the better part of human nature (which rarely exists in reality) for security is a pipe dream at best, idiocy at worst.

[Gravitycollapse]

37. If the police show up at your house with a warrant to confiscate your firearms, what would you do?

[NaturalHigh]

39. Seriously?

I would turn them over. I'm not the suicide by cop type.

[Gravitycollapse]

42. There we go. So, in actuality, people like myself do get to take your guns.

[NaturalHigh]

44. You're a cop?

If so, you have really validated my opinion. If not, meh (whatever that means).

[Gravitycollapse]

49. I just like checking the ego-trip aura of gun owners.

You know, the whole "come and get them if you dare" bullshit. As if that's suppose to scare me.

Okay, we'll (the state as an extension of the electorate) come and get them when we get around to your place. I'm not a cop. But I'll volunteer to help.

[NaturalHigh]

52. I'll try to remember to quiver in fear...

of the mighty whoever-you-are after dinner.

[Skittles]

54. it's not ego, it is paranoia

and that one is a garden-variety gun nut - a pretty boring one, actually

[AnotherMcIntosh]

61. No you don't. You just like baiting.

[patrice]

56. What. ARE. guns. for? What are the functions of guns?

[NaturalHigh]

64. Well, in my house, they are for defense.

[mwrguy]

22. That's what cops are for

And the military.

[NaturalHigh]

36. Thank you for validating my opinion...

stated elsewhere in this thread.

[Lordquinton]

20. You realise you've fallen for the NRA talking points

the ones about how any talk about gun regulation will immediately, and inexorably, lead to your guns being taken away.

[Gravitycollapse]

26. A good way to get around that diversion is to play along.

Place the burden of their threats back on them.

[NaturalHigh]

38. Did I threaten you in any way?

Really. If so, please alert.

[Gravitycollapse]

51. You said that if I came into your house you would shoot me.

[NaturalHigh]

53. That's a threat only if you're planning a home invasion.

It's also true.

[Lordquinton]

65. There's really no getting through to some people

you can give them an intimate diagram of how they are helping the NRA and going against their interests, and they will still reiterate the exact same thing they said before.

[Skittles]

45. LOL

paranoid much???

[NaturalHigh]

46. Only when responding to anti-gun nut jobs.

[Skittles]

47. awwwwwwwww

you poor thang

[NaturalHigh]

48. After I eat my Chinese food...

I'll remember to feel chastised or insulted, whichever you prefer. Please let me know which so I can really take it to heart.

[Skittles]

50. shouldn't you be looking out the window?

THEY MIGHT BE ON THEIR WAY TO TAKE YOUR PRECIOUS GUNS!!!

[Progressive dog]

8. K&R

[skydive forever]

19. Wow!

This thread devolved pretty quickly.

[DirtyDawg]

21. F there...

...ever is a justification for domestic use of the 'drone' program, it'll be a gathering of NRA Tea Partiers...

[pmdsyr32]

27. The NRA

A clear and present danger to all Americans. Then it's time to take them on once and for all. They are really wealk without the Koch brothers money. Need to stop them now.

[David__77]

29. That's ludicrous.

And it is dangerous, because there actually ARE armed groups that represent a threat to democratic-minded people: white nationalists, Klansmen, etc. The NRA is no such thing, at all.

[Gravitycollapse]

31. The NRA is exponentially more dangerous than white nationalists or the Klan.

[NaturalHigh]

41. Possibly the stupidest thing I've read today.

That's impressive.

[billh58]

43. Here is the face of the NRA.

Mr. Ted Fucking Nugent at his finest:

"Nugent also reminded Edwards of comments he made in April of 2012, when he vowed to "either be dead or in jail by this time next year" if Obama was reelected."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/10/ted-nugent-nra-shoot-somebody-video_n_3052299.html

Now tell me again how the NRA is "no such thing, at all?" Wayne LaPierre is no better, and the newly elected president of the NRA, James "Jim" Porter, is just another KKK asshat promoting gun violence.

The NRA is an anti-American, right-wing, "God and gunz" group, of cold-dead-hands gun fetishists hiding behind and prostituting the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

[badtoworse]

40. Exaggerate much? I mean really...

They are a single issue political lobbying group. Very effective to be sure, but that's about it.

[Eleanors38]

66. Ha! If the NRA was that violent, terroristic, etc. why would folks want to disarm?

[rrneck]

58. RELEASE THE KRAKEN! nt

[patrice]

60. The NRA and its attendant One-World-Order-paranoiac-insane propagandistas own the Senate. nt

[Eleanors38]

67. Countering an "armed insurgency...socially and legally?"

Such a mild and reserved policy to throw against such a mighty threat.

[indepat]

69. Domestic right-wing extremist groups presenting a clear and present danger to all Americans must

be allowed to operate with little governmental oversight or concern just as domestic right-wing extremist groups seeking exemption from Federal income taxes must be allowed to operate by trashing, subverting, and slandering a Democratic president although being subsidized by the federal government. That's how a right-wing soused society operates.