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BainsBane

(53,137 posts)
Fri May 17, 2013, 08:45 PM May 2013

Lowest murder rate in a century!

Startling news. Our murder rate is on track to come out at the lowest in a century, yet we still have the highest homicide rates in the "First World." It's amazing how much our perception of violent crime differs from its actual incidence.

"This is fairly preliminary data, but Rick Nevin reports that if current trends keep up, we'll end 2013 with the murder rate in America at its lowest rate in over a century.

Analytically speaking, murder is an especially interesting crime because we have pretty good homicide statistics going all the way back to 1900. Most other crimes have only been tracked since about 1960. And if you look at the murder rate in the chart below (the red line), you see that it follows an odd double-hump pattern: rising in the first third of the century, reaching a peak around 1930; then declining until about 1960; then rising again, reaching a second peak around 1990. It's been dropping ever since then.

This is the exact same pattern we see in lead ingestion among small children, offset by 21 years (the black line). Lead exposure rises in the late 1800s, during the heyday of lead paint, reaching a peak around 1910; then declines through World War II; and then begins rising again during our postwar love affair with big cars that burned high-octane leaded gasoline. Lead finally enters its final decline in the mid-70s when we begin the switch to unleaded gasoline.

This is powerful evidence in favor of the theory that lead exposure in childhood produces higher rates of violent crime in adulthood. It's one thing to have two simple curves that match up well. That could just be a coincidence. But to have two unusual double-humped curves that match up well is highly unlikely unless there really is an association. Put that together with all the statistical evidence from other countries; plus the prospective studies that have tracked lead exposure in individual children from birth; plus the MRI scans showing the actual locations of brain damage in adults who were exposed to lead as children—put all that together and you have a pretty compelling set of evidence. Lead exposure doesn't just lower IQs and hurt educational development. It also increases violent tendencies later in life. If we want less crime 20 years from now, the best thing we can do today is clean up the last of our lead. http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2013/05/us-murder-rate-track-be-lowest-century


The link shows a chart tracking a correlation between lead in the environment and homicide rates.
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Lowest murder rate in a century! (Original Post) BainsBane May 2013 OP
Could we get this moved to creative speculation MattBaggins May 2013 #1
Why? BainsBane May 2013 #2
this is not CS, it's ridiculous of you to suggest that. Whisp May 2013 #4
I'm a fan of Matt Baggins BainsBane May 2013 #5
Wow, your ignorance of the topic is the issue. n-t Logical May 2013 #6
You've missed the point. It's not about violence or crime, it about making stupid people afraid. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #3
I bet many people on this forum are 100% sure the murder rate is higher than ever. n-t Logical May 2013 #7
What has increased are mass shootings BainsBane May 2013 #8
Good point. 24/7 news is the cause of a lot of it also. n-t Logical May 2013 #9
They haven't really increased either Recursion May 2013 #17
Because it is Uzair May 2013 #18
So we should be unhappy it is dropping??? n-t Logical May 2013 #19
Also keep in mind these are only murder numbers BainsBane May 2013 #21
Doesn't include accidental deaths by guns BainsBane May 2013 #10
bullshit on the lead crap. you think there wasn't lead in other countries? it's idiotic. HiPointDem May 2013 #11
It doesn't provide a comparison to other countries BainsBane May 2013 #12
youre missing the point. HiPointDem May 2013 #13
Since that is the only point you raised BainsBane May 2013 #14
And it's suggested in other countries too muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #15
How is that "startling"? Murder rates have been plummeting for 20 years (nt) Recursion May 2013 #16
locking up 2% of the population helps... HiPointDem May 2013 #20
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
4. this is not CS, it's ridiculous of you to suggest that.
Fri May 17, 2013, 09:02 PM
May 2013

This sounds more like a vendetta post than anything else. How utterly ridiculous for you to say that.

BainsBane

(53,137 posts)
8. What has increased are mass shootings
Fri May 17, 2013, 09:17 PM
May 2013

That is clear statistically. Because those events are so shocking and generate media attention, it gives the impression the murder rate has risen. I knew it had in fact dropped, but I didn't realize how great the decline was.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
17. They haven't really increased either
Sat May 18, 2013, 06:09 AM
May 2013

They do tend to cluster, but they're less common now than 30 years ago. But there wasn't CNN 30 years ago.

 

Uzair

(241 posts)
18. Because it is
Sat May 18, 2013, 08:29 AM
May 2013

Not compared to America, but higher than every other industrialized nation by orders of magnitude. It's pathetic that people celebrate the "lowest" murder rate ever as if it's in any way low in the first place.

BainsBane

(53,137 posts)
10. Doesn't include accidental deaths by guns
Fri May 17, 2013, 10:17 PM
May 2013

Or suicides, I believe, since it says murders rather than homicide or gun deaths. That's an important point. It would be interesting to compare all gun deaths over the past century.

BainsBane

(53,137 posts)
14. Since that is the only point you raised
Sat May 18, 2013, 12:53 AM
May 2013

I can't imagine what you think I'm missing. You can follow the links in the article to read about the research on lead and violence.

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