"Hey Liberals, Listen Up!" Chris Hayes

[KoKo]

Hayes: Liberals, listen up

Chris Hayes' plea to fellow liberals about what scandals are really scandals this week. It's a Good watch!

All In
May 17, 2013
http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/51923335/

[Buzz Clik]

1. Seems a little self-serving:

A member of the media claiming that the only real scandal is the one impacting the media.

He may be right, but it comes across as disingenuous.

[patrice]

3. And WHY would we assume media are the best ones to do the right thing by the info. People

do the wrong thing "for your own good" ALL of the time.

[KoKo]

5. Do you trust the Government to be the best ones to do the right thing

by the people, though? Doesn't history show that Governments don't always have the common person in mind when big money, powerful interests gain a foothold as they have now with the Military/Industry/and much of "Corporate" Media embedded with them. It's important that the Press be taken back from the influence of the Powerful Interests. And, that's why Freedom of Speech without fear of retribution is important.

[patrice]

6. Government is at least theoretically accountable and if it isn't there are some things that we

actually have recourse to in order to mitigate their dysfunctions, bureaucratic or otherwise.

NOT so with private entities; we have no right, other than commercial boycott, to require that private entities do or don't do anything with their data-resources.

Private entities also have narrower domains than governments, so their decisions about what to do with information resources can be affected either by their own ignorance or by other, more or less, intentionally latent/covert agendas.

[patrice]

2. All true, SO, I honestly don't understand what we are to do about leaks that can/do result in CIA

safe-houses being ID'd and there's possibly another problem: what about leaks that amount to "industrial espionage" against other leaks? Is it possible that some leaks, for whatever they accomplish in the immediate proximity of an issue, also amount to a head-ups for bigger game to say or execute prophylactic measures?

Leakage must be chaotic. That means that value CAN be lost.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Very short term others are inportant

See Benghazi scandal and data manipulation and ABC.

As I said the other day, the AP is just the First Amendment and American citizens shoud have head on fire over it...it's not just a free press in it.

I completely lost my hopes that people will comprehend why this one matters...a lot more, at a meta, granular level

[Poll_Blind]

7. +1 Just finished watching. Great piece! The video rolled over into an...

...excellent piece on a disabled veteran who was robbed out of his home by Wells Fargo and an organization which is combating these kinds of things by buying underwater homeowners' houses and reselling it back to them with affordable financing. Keeping sustainable communities and neighborhoods thriving when banks are trying to destroy them.



PB

[KoKo]

9. Yes...was surprised. It's truly a good watch over weekend for those who missed it...

Thanks!

[patrice]

8. Why aren't we talking about how Benghazi could have lead to Shock & Awe 2.0 if some handlers

had had their way with the information?

Sorry! Media and media whores (NOT Chris Hayes, btw) have already proven their trustworthiness with that kind of information.

[KoKo]

10. Think the Chris Hayes is worth a watch for the issue(s) he addressed, though.

[patrice]

11. I agree. CH is one of my favorites. nt