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warrior1

(12,325 posts)
Sun May 19, 2013, 03:23 PM May 2013

ABC’s Jonathan Karl regrets that he was caught lying about Benghazi

http://americablog.com/2013/05/abc-jonathan-karl-benghazi-email.html

As you know, ABC’s Jonathan Karl created quite a firestorm this past week by publishing a “breaking” story about the Benghazi controversy that was an utter and complete fabrication.

Karl’s story purported to “prove” that the White House had made partisan hay with the Benghazi talking points in those first few days after the deadly attack on our consultate in Libya. In fact, Karl’s story, we now know, was a lie, fabricated by congressional Republicans who are out to get President Obama, and aided by Karl having intentionally misled ABC’s audience in his reporting on the matter.

I actually felt a little bit bad for ABC’s Jonathan Karl, and thus haven’t been joining in the vocal attacks others have lobbed at him over his fabricated story about the Benghazi emails.

All reporters mess up at some point. And Karl’s mistake was rather monumental, to be sure. Karl not only was lied to by a source, and printed the lie as fact, but he hid the hearsay nature of the lie and pretended that he was quoting White House emails that he had seen himself, when in fact he was quoting a GOP congressional source lying about what was in the White House emails about the Benghazi talking points. Quite a small fact to omit from a breaking new story.

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ABC’s Jonathan Karl regrets that he was caught lying about Benghazi (Original Post) warrior1 May 2013 OP
The question is, Jon, what else have you lied about in your reporting? Cooley Hurd May 2013 #1
Was it the lying, or the getting caught that he regrets? hobbit709 May 2013 #2
Exactly. ananda May 2013 #13
+1 sakabatou May 2013 #21
let me add my +1 to this as well dlwickham May 2013 #27
ABC’s Jonathan Karl is an Alumnus of a Conservative Media Training Program Tx4obama May 2013 #3
NOT TO MENTION summer-hazz May 2013 #15
I strongly disagree with one point Aravosis made. pennylane100 May 2013 #4
Faux won a lawsuit to lie Politicalboi May 2013 #28
Dan Rather was fired from CBS because he reported something inaccurate about Bush Auntie Bush May 2013 #5
A Quibble With "inaccurate" DallasNE May 2013 #20
At best he was a tool of the right wing Major Nikon May 2013 #6
His editor is also blameworthy and deserves punishment. byeya May 2013 #7
Karl and the rest of them... sheshe2 May 2013 #8
Karl is another liar Iliyah May 2013 #9
Is the Jonathon Karl lie being mentioned at all on TV? I have not watched a millisecond of AlinPA May 2013 #10
Name names, then Mr Karl. Who did you get those doctored emails from? Canuckistanian May 2013 #11
Has he admitted his "mistake" on ABC news? Vietnameravet May 2013 #12
Karl is a RW mole - readily allowed by the "liberal media"- pointed out here yesterday by Armstead underpants May 2013 #14
If he was simply conveying what he assumed was good information from a "leaker"... Marr May 2013 #16
Since Woodward & Bernstein, journos know to CONFIRM. NO EXCUSES HERE. WinkyDink May 2013 #19
Hypothetically though, how could you confirm the information leaked to you by a single source? Marr May 2013 #22
Easy-peasy: Find one; or do not print. WinkyDink May 2013 #24
He should resign and go to Fox, now whenever I see this guy I will turn him off now knowing kimbutgar May 2013 #17
"felt a little bit bad for" this TRAITOROUS LIAR?! He's lucky he's living NOW, HERE. WinkyDink May 2013 #18
Mr. Karl wasnt fooled. He was an knowledgeable participant in sedition. rhett o rick May 2013 #23
"ABC’s Jonathan Karl regrets that he was caught" eppur_se_muova May 2013 #25
feel sorry for him? flamingdem May 2013 #26

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. ABC’s Jonathan Karl is an Alumnus of a Conservative Media Training Program
Sun May 19, 2013, 03:59 PM
May 2013
ABC’s Jonathan Karl is an Alumnus of a Conservative Media Training Program

ABC’s senior political correspondent Jonathan Karl, of the now infamous Benghazi email lie, is an alumnus of a conservative media training program Collegiate Network. He stands now accused of making himself vulnerable to being used for political purposes, as he still refuses to apologize for taking the word of a Republican and passing it off as having access to the actual documents.

Fair Org reported:

Karl came to mainstream journalism via the Collegiate Network, an organization primarily devoted to promoting and supporting right-leaning newspapers on college campuses (Extra!, 9-10/91)—such as the Rutgers paper launched by the infamous James O’Keefe (Political Correction, 1/27/10). The network, founded in 1979, is one of several projects of the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, which seeks to strengthen conservative ideology on college campuses. William F. Buckley was the ISI’s first president, and the current board chair is American Spectator publisher Alfred Regnery. Several leading right-wing pundits came out of Collegiate-affiliated papers, including Ann Coulter, Dinesh D’Souza, Michelle Malkin, Rich Lowry and Laura Ingraham (Washington Times, 11/28/04).

The Collegiate Network also provides paid internships and fellowships to place its members at corporate media outlets or influential Beltway publications; 2010-11 placements include the Hill, Roll Call, Dallas Morning News and USA Today. The program’s highest-profile alum is Karl, who was a Collegiate fellow at the neoliberal New Republic magazine.



CN has received funding from the Sarah Scaife Foundation, Scaife Family Foundation, The Carthage Foundation, Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, John M. Olin Foundation, and the JM Foundation. But it’s administered by ISI. ISI claims to be non-partisan and tax exempt (cough), but read Reagan’s thanks to ISI for the “troops”, “By the time the Reagan Revolution marched into Washington, I had the troops I needed—thanks in no small measure to the work with American youth ISI had been doing since 1953.”

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/abcs-jonathan-karl-alum-conservative-media-training-program.html

summer-hazz

(112 posts)
15. NOT TO MENTION
Sun May 19, 2013, 06:01 PM
May 2013

The time, anxiety, trustworthiness, and money it cost the taxpayers to deal with all of
this!


These 4 dead men need to be able to RIP, and let's not forget to mention the toll this must have taken on their families to deal with all this scandal.

It's shameful!!!!

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
4. I strongly disagree with one point Aravosis made.
Sun May 19, 2013, 04:01 PM
May 2013

"All Reporters mess up at some point" This was so much more. This guy lied his ass of to influence a political inquiry and to smear the President of this country. That would be forgivable if he was not a paid employee of a large corporation and was able to use publicly owned airwaves to do it.

The minimum consequence is that he should be fired and an impartial investigation (if there is such a thing) should determine how far up this scandal went. These our airwaves and we should take our right the licensees act in a responsible manner. If they cannot do this we need to yank their licenses.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
28. Faux won a lawsuit to lie
Tue May 21, 2013, 12:49 AM
May 2013

They're still here. This asshole deserves jail time and the cost of congress on the taxpayer's dime. And then we can get to the GOP's who knew the e-mails were edited, and yet still continued with this sham. They should be taken out of office ASAP!

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
5. Dan Rather was fired from CBS because he reported something inaccurate about Bush
Sun May 19, 2013, 04:07 PM
May 2013

(but it really wasn't false information) So why isn't Jonathan Karl fired for deliberately telling misleading lies? We should all write ABC and demand his firing!

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
20. A Quibble With "inaccurate"
Sun May 19, 2013, 07:07 PM
May 2013

The woman that was the officers typist at the time said she did not type that memo but that it represented his views at that time. The document was a recreation but without the original source it could only be said that it generally represented his views with the degree of accuracy undetermined.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
6. At best he was a tool of the right wing
Sun May 19, 2013, 04:13 PM
May 2013

It seems that either he accepted his toolship knowingly and agreeably, or he was too stupid to know when he was being made into a tool. I'm not sure which is worse.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
10. Is the Jonathon Karl lie being mentioned at all on TV? I have not watched a millisecond of
Sun May 19, 2013, 05:41 PM
May 2013

TV in a week, but have read the papers (Pittsburgh, NYT) and listened to the "news" on radio. Not a word about him. It's the same old blather- President's "scandals, blah, blah, blah..."

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
11. Name names, then Mr Karl. Who did you get those doctored emails from?
Sun May 19, 2013, 05:45 PM
May 2013

Remember, Rachel Maddow said that if you have a source feeding you false information, they're not a source. They're now news.

And it's OK to out them and identify them and the way you received the documents.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
16. If he was simply conveying what he assumed was good information from a "leaker"...
Sun May 19, 2013, 06:03 PM
May 2013

then he's not so much to blame, so long as he names the con-man (or con-men). If he doesn't, then he's a part of it.

 

Marr

(20,317 posts)
22. Hypothetically though, how could you confirm the information leaked to you by a single source?
Sun May 19, 2013, 09:14 PM
May 2013

I'm not saying I think this guy is clean here-- his origins make me suspect that he was promoted to his position specifically to be a conduit for such partisan propaganda-- but hypothetically, taking the specifics of the case out of the equation, how could a journalist verify privileged information they received from a single, trusted source?

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
17. He should resign and go to Fox, now whenever I see this guy I will turn him off now knowing
Sun May 19, 2013, 06:58 PM
May 2013

he is a right wing hack. The guy has lost all creditability as a legitimate news reporter. On top of that he is a liar and once you are a branded a liar you are considered a liar from then on in the truth based reality.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. Mr. Karl wasnt fooled. He was an knowledgeable participant in sedition.
Mon May 20, 2013, 12:47 AM
May 2013

We are at war and he tried to slander the president of the USofA with the apparent goal of rendering him ineffectual. On second thought it sounds more like treason.

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