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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Mon May 20, 2013, 08:23 AM May 2013

Dennis Kucinich is earning his pay

Former Rep. Kucinich: Obama ‘hasn’t done anything’ on jobs

Former Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) blasted President Obama on Sunday for not doing enough to lower the unemployment rate in the country.

“President Obama hasn't done anything about the unemployment problem,” said Kucinich on “Fox News Sunday.”

“We have massive amounts of people who are out of work and… [Obama] has to be held accountable for not creating the jobs. We have about 8 million people out of work, about another 8 million people working part time and shouldn't be. We need an economic agenda. We don't have it.”

A staunch liberal, Kucinich has been actively outspoken against some of the administration’s policies and actions since leaving office at the end of the last Congress.

more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/300611-former-rep-kucinich-obama-hasnt-done-anything-on-jobs

It is nice to see that Mr. Kucinich is still able to 'speak truth to power' even while drawing a paycheck from Fox News.

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Dennis Kucinich is earning his pay (Original Post) Freddie Stubbs May 2013 OP
I laugh at him being on FOX and advisory board of Ron Paul's Institute. Better there than Congress. PeaceNikki May 2013 #1
It's more fun to vote no on everything and be ideologically pure Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #5
Kooch is the epitome of "sound and fury, signifying nothing". He's the new Dick Morris. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #26
Our Louie Gohmert. :sigh: lamp_shade May 2013 #2
Can you give me a couple of ways that they are the same? Demit May 2013 #3
Gohmert is actually smarter. geek tragedy May 2013 #10
Both spend a lot of time criticizing President Obama Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #28
Both are on Fox News frequently Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #29
Both have appeared on Alex Jones' radio show Freddie Stubbs May 2013 #33
Jumped the shark, that one n/t n2doc May 2013 #4
So you're saying that the President has made the Main Street economy his priority? Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #6
Kucinich is going on Fox and blaming Obama for Congress's lack geek tragedy May 2013 #8
You didn't answer the question. The President came into office with the means to make Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #11
Patently false bullshit. Obama pushed for the largest stimulus measure geek tragedy May 2013 #12
+1 krawhitham May 2013 #13
Speaking of BS. "The Largest Stimulus Package in History" was barely a third of what those Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #15
Your ability to ignore the existence of Congress is geek tragedy May 2013 #17
And once again you prove my point. You have no answer, so fling some poo Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #19
So, your thesis is that every failure of Congress geek tragedy May 2013 #20
The President proposes and Congress disposes. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #23
As I said, shoddy and crudely reductive 'analysis' nt geek tragedy May 2013 #24
Still waiting for that answer... Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #31
Let's see: moving the goalposts, strawman argument, ad hominem... Demit May 2013 #25
It's all he's got. However, I thank you for noticing. Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #32
Myopic beyond belief. Bobbie Jo May 2013 #34
Not doing enough, Dennis? Jamaal510 May 2013 #7
How anyone can like a kook on FOX News more than a sitting Democratic President... Pragdem May 2013 #9
I guess it is true FOXNEWS rots your brains. hrmjustin May 2013 #14
He was always a tool rufus dog May 2013 #16
Poor Dennis. DevonRex May 2013 #18
I am able to admit that I voted for him in a primary olddots May 2013 #21
R#3 & K for, congrats on escaping unscathed (so far) with this topic. I got flamed for it. n/t UTUSN May 2013 #22
if Dennis doesn't play, they won't pay AtomicKitten May 2013 #27
Blast Dennis all you want Daniel537 May 2013 #30
I love Kucinich! gopiscrap May 2013 #35

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
1. I laugh at him being on FOX and advisory board of Ron Paul's Institute. Better there than Congress.
Mon May 20, 2013, 08:26 AM
May 2013

Kucinich pushed the party RIGHT, not left.

They could always count on him to vote AGAINST Democratic bills. On principle. That must have been awesome for him. But the thing is, if Kucinich could be counted on to vote no, the Democratic leadership had to get the vote elsewhere. Like towards the votes on the bubble from Blue Dogs. They end up either changing the bills to appeal to them or cutting a deal on another legislative priority (or simply putting in an earmark) to get that other vote.

If Kucinich had voted with the leadership to begin with, some of that that wouldn't have been necessary.

FOX and Ron Paul on, little buddy. We have shit to do.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,220 posts)
26. Kooch is the epitome of "sound and fury, signifying nothing". He's the new Dick Morris.
Mon May 20, 2013, 07:12 PM
May 2013

That's the only reason he's on Fox News, and every honest person here knows it, whether they want to publicly admit it or not. For a real world view of Kooch's effectiveness as a legislator, I think it's important to have some perspective. Dennis is obviously celebrated much more for his rhetoric, than his record. This is a great synopsis:


"Just look at this section from the biography on his congressional Web site:

In Congress, Kucinich has authored and co-sponsored legislation to create a national health care system, preserve Social Security, lower the costs of prescription drugs, provide economic development through infrastructure improvements, abolish the death penalty, provide universal prekindergarten to all 3, 4, and 5 year olds, create a Department of Peace, regulate genetically engineered foods, repeal the USA PATRIOT Act, and provide tax relief to working class families.

Notice that the bio never says whether any of that legislation actually passed. In fact, according to the Web site GovTrack, of the 97 bills Kucinich has sponsored since taking office in 1997, only three have become law. Ninety-three didn’t even make it out of committee.

The three that were enacted are, in chronological order from first to last: (1) A bill “to make available to the Ukranian Museum and Archives the USIA television program ‘Window on America,’” (2) a bill “to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 14500 Lorain Avenue in Cleveland, Ohio as the ‘John P. Gallagher Post Office Building” (3) and a bill “proclaiming Casimir Pulaski to be an honorary citizen of the United States posthumously.

http://www.salon.com/2010/03/10/kos_kucinich/

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
10. Gohmert is actually smarter.
Mon May 20, 2013, 02:15 PM
May 2013

He doesn't blame other Republicans for policies that result from actions taken or blocked by Democrats.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
11. You didn't answer the question. The President came into office with the means to make
Mon May 20, 2013, 02:34 PM
May 2013

the difference. He instead elected to double down (to use the current annoying phrase) on the failed strategy of his predecessors.

We are exactly where we were told we would be, by the ignored people that have proven themselves right time and again, if these policies and actions were taken.

He was elected to inspire and institute change, he chose to screw the people and caused 2010.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
12. Patently false bullshit. Obama pushed for the largest stimulus measure
Mon May 20, 2013, 02:38 PM
May 2013

in US history. It was the biggest package that could get through Congress (thanks to Republican filibusters).

He wound up expending a lot of political capital on that.

And then he helped push health care reform and Wall Street reform through Congress.

And, then the Bush tax cuts for the super wealthy finally went away after he won re-election in 2012.

I guess in some fantasy world Republicans didn't exist, the filibuster didn't exist, and Blue Dog Democrats didn't need to be courted.

It's a childishly naive view to think all the problems were caused because Obama wanted to "screw the people."

That's the kind of crap one hears on Fox & Friends.

No, I take that back. Such commentary is too dumb for Fox& Friends.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
15. Speaking of BS. "The Largest Stimulus Package in History" was barely a third of what those
Mon May 20, 2013, 03:45 PM
May 2013

same people, you know, the ones who've been right all along, told us was the minimum needed to do the job, and even at that half of it consisted of tax credits that were useless to the millions that lost everything.

What you choose to believe is irrelevant, what is, is, and we are all living through the consequences of his failures.

His reelection is, likewise, irrelevant since his primary accomplishment in his endless quest to placate people that hate him was to alienate enough people that wanted to support him that he was "shellacked" when it mattered. Just like he and the party are doing right now, again.

I didn't say he wanted to screw the people, those are your words. He chose to ignore sane advice from people who didn't collapse the global economy and sacrificed us in order please his masters.

And you still haven't answered the question, but then I didn't expect that you would or ever will. You're just as much a zealot as any asshole in a tricorn hat, Ignoring what is, in favor of what you wish. You can't even recount recent history with any honesty. The Bush tax cuts for the super-wealthy didn't "go away", they were raised slightly but were still permanently reduced from what they were when Bush got them in the first place, and in exchange we got insufficient, temporary relief for some of their victims.

Now, you can go think of some more names to call me.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
17. Your ability to ignore the existence of Congress is
Mon May 20, 2013, 03:53 PM
May 2013

truly remarkable. Takes some determination to produce such a deficient analysis.

P.S. this is a site for Democrats, not Naderites. So if you truly believe that it was irrelevant that Obama rather than Romney become President, there are probably better websites for you to bless with your "Obama is the root of all evil" analysis.

Your personal animosity towards the President is clearly the only driver of your opinions, as you refuse to look at other institutional actors as influencing and constraining his options.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
19. And once again you prove my point. You have no answer, so fling some poo
Mon May 20, 2013, 04:10 PM
May 2013

and hope that nobody notices the smell.

I have no personal feeling about the President, I have never met him. Like millions of other Americans, I voted for him twice thanks in large part to the quadrennial clown car of republican candidates, but that doesn't change the facts you are determined to ignore any cost. Inconvenient facts like the one that we gave him and the party both houses of Congress as well as the White House and what we got in return was weak, ineffective half measures guaranteed to fail. He couldn't even whip his own party into shape and repaid Democratic obstructionism with abject submission and a policy of welfare for Wall Street, fuck all for Main Street.

But please, do let me know when they make you The Final Arbiter of What Constitutes a True Democrat, I'm sure it will be quite entertaining.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
23. The President proposes and Congress disposes.
Mon May 20, 2013, 04:33 PM
May 2013

Now, we know what happens when the President fails to even propose.

At least we can take comfort in the fact that no billionaires were left behind...

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
25. Let's see: moving the goalposts, strawman argument, ad hominem...
Mon May 20, 2013, 06:17 PM
May 2013

you've worked at least three dishonest ways to argue just in this post.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
32. It's all he's got. However, I thank you for noticing.
Mon May 20, 2013, 09:59 PM
May 2013

The True Blue Brigade, while mean-spirited and wholly destructive to the party, is frequently entertaining. There are websites devoted to nothing more than watching them thrash and flail in search of an excuse, deflection, or scapegoat for their antics.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
7. Not doing enough, Dennis?
Mon May 20, 2013, 02:12 PM
May 2013

The man proposed a Jobs Bill in 2011 that was said to create millions of jobs, yet it was blocked by our friends across the aisle. In spite of that, there have been roughly 37 consecutive months of job growth under this administration.
If anybody isn't doing enough to lower UE, it's the GOP, but I guess Dennis has been diagnosed with Fox-Pox and somehow forgot that tidbit.

 

Pragdem

(233 posts)
9. How anyone can like a kook on FOX News more than a sitting Democratic President...
Mon May 20, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013

isn't beyond me... as I know they're just as fucking kooky.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
16. He was always a tool
Mon May 20, 2013, 03:52 PM
May 2013

He played the not Liberal enough card repeatedly so as to block liberal progress. The fucktard is anything but a progressive.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
18. Poor Dennis.
Mon May 20, 2013, 04:00 PM
May 2013

The aliens didn't come back for him after all. Or maybe he thinks they run Fox News. Either way, poor Dennis.

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
21. I am able to admit that I voted for him in a primary
Mon May 20, 2013, 04:17 PM
May 2013

and he seems to have lost his way .
Why are you people gloating so much ? is it cyberdisinhibition ?

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
30. Blast Dennis all you want
Mon May 20, 2013, 08:47 PM
May 2013

At least he was someone who actually pushed for a real universal health care plan when most Dems, led by the President, were throwing in the towel in 2009, and has consistently opposed our overseas meddling and interventions. He's always been a critic of Obama and the Dem establishment, i have no problem with that.

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