Tue May 21, 2013, 12:42 AM

Obama vs. LBJ

Via historian Corey Robin: http://coreyrobin.com/2013/05/20/obama-at-morehouse-lbj-at-howard

LBJ at Howard University:

"But freedom is not enough. You do not wipe away the scars of centuries by saying: Now you are free to go where you want, and do as you desire, and choose the leaders you please. You do not take a person who, for years, has been hobbled by chains and liberate him, bring him up to the starting line of a race and then say, “you are free to compete with all the others,” and still justly believe that you have been completely fair."

Obama at Morehouse College:

"Nobody cares how tough your upbringing was. Nobody cares if you suffered some discrimination. And moreover, you have to remember that whatever you’ve gone through, it pales in comparison to the hardships previous generations endured — and they overcame them. And if they overcame them, you can overcome them, too. ...if you stay hungry, if you keep hustling, if you keep on your grind and get other folks to do the same — nobody can stop you."

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16 replies	Author	Time	Post
Obama vs. LBJ (Original post)	unrepentant progress	May 2013	OP
Hey. I do care about other's "tough" upbringing. I do care that people suffer discrimination.	Luminous Animal	May 2013	#1
Almost 50 years apart	treestar	May 2013	#2
Besides, LBJ was corrupt as hell.	Archae	May 2013	#3
Medicare and Civil Rights?	mountain grammy	May 2013	#4
Those were good.	Archae	May 2013	#5
Approx. 21,000 Americans died under Nixon's "plan to end the war." So not ALL LBJ.	WinkyDink	May 2013	#15
That's simply idiotic	unrepentant progress	May 2013	#6
Well ..	ananda	May 2013	#7
Given what we've learned in recent years about how close LBJ was to peace in Vietnam	unrepentant progress	May 2013	#8
Bootstraps, baby.	woo me with science	May 2013	#9
There is no comparison between Obama and LBJ.	The Link	May 2013	#10
Where is bvar22's post	woo me with science	May 2013	#11
+1000	forestpath	May 2013	#14
Hey, Hey, LBJ. How many kids did you kill today?...	SidDithers	May 2013	#12
So you think "race," "gender," and "age" are synonyms? Because, you know, there are A-A females,	WinkyDink	May 2013	#16
LBJ sure as hell cared, in words and actions. Obama's idea of "caring" = scolding.	forestpath	May 2013	#13

Response to unrepentant progress (Original post)

Tue May 21, 2013, 12:49 AM

Luminous Animal (27,310 posts)

1. Hey. I do care about other's "tough" upbringing. I do care that people suffer discrimination.

I do remember what others' have gone through and build on that knowledge to keep my eyes on the prize. I recognize that Others' overcame (to the extent that they have) through collective action.

Obama vs. LBJ

1. Hey. I do care about other's "tough" upbringing. I do care that people suffer discrimination.

2. Almost 50 years apart

3. Besides, LBJ was corrupt as hell.

4. Medicare and Civil Rights?

5. Those were good.

15. Approx. 21,000 Americans died under Nixon's "plan to end the war." So not ALL LBJ.

6. That's simply idiotic

7. Well ..

8. Given what we've learned in recent years about how close LBJ was to peace in Vietnam

9. Bootstraps, baby.

10. There is no comparison between Obama and LBJ.

11. Where is bvar22's post

14. +1000

12. Hey, Hey, LBJ. How many kids did you kill today?...

16. So you think "race," "gender," and "age" are synonyms? Because, you know, there are A-A females,

13. LBJ sure as hell cared, in words and actions. Obama's idea of "caring" = scolding.