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niyad

(113,303 posts)
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:05 AM May 2013

once again, brave teachers risk their lives to protect their charges.

story after story today points out that teachers were covering students with their own bodies to protect them (just like at sandy hook). I think about the reichwing attacks on teachers, and it makes me sick. imagine a world where teachers were paid what they were really worth, and the worthless, grubbing corporate types and their cronies were paid what they were really worth.

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once again, brave teachers risk their lives to protect their charges. (Original Post) niyad May 2013 OP
K&R for the kick. nt DCKit May 2013 #1
The heroism of teachers is incredible. SunSeeker May 2013 #2
yes indeed nt flamingdem May 2013 #3
Yes Indeed, niyad! "A Teacher's Love" Cha May 2013 #4
made me cry cvoogt May 2013 #6
Me too.. everytime I see that pic. It's heartbreaking. Cha May 2013 #7
Another great photo: pinboy3niner May 2013 #14
Yes, pinboy.. these are heartwarming pics of helping the children.. Cha May 2013 #23
The gentlest kind of heroism, seldom celebrated. Bless 'em all. freshwest May 2013 #5
Worthless grubbing corportate types. . .let's include actors, athletes, singers and those leeches Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #8
so you think that people who give us great songs, great plays, great movies, etc. produce things niyad May 2013 #12
I agree there is intrinsic value in art and music. bighart May 2013 #21
nice try. niyad May 2013 #22
Is it worth the millions they make, while teachers get peanuts? Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #24
not that many people make obscene amounts of money making music--and, amazingly enough, niyad May 2013 #27
Again. . .is it worth more than a teacher? You are not answering. You are sidestepping Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #28
not sidestepping, since you seem to have an issue with musicians and actors niyad May 2013 #29
I have an issue with anyone who produces next to nothing and receives huge amounts of pay for it Nanjing to Seoul May 2013 #31
Thank you for what you do. bighart May 2013 #32
As surprising as the dawn. Half-Century Man May 2013 #9
We don't even think about it, either. It's just what we do. knitter4democracy May 2013 #10
I hope you don't think I am one of those surprised? niyad May 2013 #13
+1 uponit7771 May 2013 #11
Plenty of brave teachers, but it's important we keep social norms and market norms seperate. Pragdem May 2013 #15
+1 MichiganVote May 2013 #25
I just made similar comments to a coworker CatWoman May 2013 #16
but of course!! from one cat woman to another!! niyad May 2013 #19
k/r for teachers fishwax May 2013 #17
Glorified babysitters my ass! justiceischeap May 2013 #18
unfortunately, I do know that, and it makes me sick. and then there is the fact that sitters are, niyad May 2013 #20
. . . niyad May 2013 #26
Has anyone heard an update about the teacher they were afraid wouldn't make it? winter is coming May 2013 #30

SunSeeker

(51,554 posts)
2. The heroism of teachers is incredible.
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:05 AM
May 2013
A truck that was tossed through the air landed in the spot where the school's main office would have been, KFOR reported. Books were scattered across pancaked slabs of concrete. 

A crying man described to a reporter how he and others pulled a car off a teacher in the front of the building and found three children she had shielded with her body. "Good job, teach," the man said, his voice choked with emotion. 

A sixth-grade teacher told KFOR she laid on top of several children in a restroom to protect them from winds that may have topped 200 mph, and all survived.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/05/20/18381078-7-children-found-dead-at-oklahoma-school-wrecked-by-tornado-officials-say?lite

Cha

(297,220 posts)
4. Yes Indeed, niyad! "A Teacher's Love"
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:09 AM
May 2013

A teacher hugs a child at Briarwood Elementary school after a tornado destroyed the school in south OKC Oklahoma City, OK, Monday, May 20, 2013.

http://theobamadiary.com/2013/05/20/in-times-of-despair/#comments

cvoogt

(949 posts)
6. made me cry
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:17 AM
May 2013

I don't care about the politics here. Yes, it's because of climate change, and yes, maybe some of these people don't believe in that, but they are people and deserve our love.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
14. Another great photo:
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:15 AM
May 2013


Teachers carry children away from Briarwood Elementary school after a tornado destroyed the school in south Oklahoma City, May 20, 2013. (Paul Hellstern/The Oklahoman/AP Photo)

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
8. Worthless grubbing corportate types. . .let's include actors, athletes, singers and those leeches
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:33 AM
May 2013

as well. No one should make the money they make producing things of such little intrinsic value for society. Teachers, LEOs, Firefighters, Nurses and Soldiers should all be millionaires.

niyad

(113,303 posts)
12. so you think that people who give us great songs, great plays, great movies, etc. produce things
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:04 AM
May 2013

of no intrinsic value? you don't think art and music have any intrinsic value?

bighart

(1,565 posts)
21. I agree there is intrinsic value in art and music.
Tue May 21, 2013, 11:26 AM
May 2013

But do you think those who make art and music and movies deserve to have more wealth than 99% of the population does?

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
24. Is it worth the millions they make, while teachers get peanuts?
Tue May 21, 2013, 07:52 PM
May 2013

Great songs are nice, but not worth being paid that obscene amount of money.

niyad

(113,303 posts)
27. not that many people make obscene amounts of money making music--and, amazingly enough,
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:17 PM
May 2013

it is because people choose to pay them for that music. the arts are not really subsidized in this country, the way the oil companies and many corporations are. not all musicians are in the 1%

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
28. Again. . .is it worth more than a teacher? You are not answering. You are sidestepping
Tue May 21, 2013, 08:36 PM
May 2013

and bringing up irrelevant ideas. Is Beyonce and Brad Pitt worth more than the person that teaches SPED and LD students?

If so, your priorities are messed up.

niyad

(113,303 posts)
29. not sidestepping, since you seem to have an issue with musicians and actors
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:49 PM
May 2013

more than ceo's,. you have not answered the question about intrinsic value, but keep up the sidestepping. it is amusing, and transparently obvious.

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
31. I have an issue with anyone who produces next to nothing and receives huge amounts of pay for it
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:14 PM
May 2013

CEOs, athlete, musicians, actors.

Since you feel they are worth their obscene pay, good.

I'll go back to my classroom and let you have your fantasy. I have an IGCSE exam to administer. Apparently, my value is only worth about 45,000 a year after nine years in a classroom.

Yet, CEOs make that in six minutes. And LeBron James makes that in six hours.

Ignored forever.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
9. As surprising as the dawn.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:40 AM
May 2013

Most teachers I have ever met put the welfare of the students over their personal welfare. Teachers I have been in heated arguments with, the ones who I believed were causing serious harm to my family values; I never once thought that they acted to serve a personal agenda. Their complete commitment was to the student.
Whenever in post-disaster conversations people express surprise that classroom teachers put their own bodies between students and danger, I can't help but wonder where these folks have been. Teachers do that, just like they breath, they do that. The majority of Police, Firefighters, EMTs, teachers, soldiers, Doctor's, nurses also do just that.

Lately it seems as though the human race has been thinking that "businessman" is the highest form of human life. This is untrue. Nor is entertainer, sports figure, or someone who's famous for being famous. These people are transient influences on society at best. The people who devote their lives to helping and teaching are the true pinnacles of human social evolution.

knitter4democracy

(14,350 posts)
10. We don't even think about it, either. It's just what we do.
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:07 AM
May 2013

I teach high school, and I've had times where I've had to deal with kids fighting or whatever, and I never think of protecting myself like my bosses say I should. I just run to help my kids and keep them safe.

Sometimes my students ask me what I would do if a gunman were to come to my classroom or if there were a tornado, and I tell them every time that I'd do whatever it takes to keep them safe. I and all the teachers I know always run through scenarios in our heads, figuring out safer spots, better ways to hide students or keep them safe. It's just what we do.

 

Pragdem

(233 posts)
15. Plenty of brave teachers, but it's important we keep social norms and market norms seperate.
Tue May 21, 2013, 10:17 AM
May 2013

Unfortunately, those that attack public education don't feel the same way.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
18. Glorified babysitters my ass!
Tue May 21, 2013, 11:15 AM
May 2013

In case you don't know, some people see teachers as nothing but babysitters and that's why they are "undeserving" of better pay. I bet their babysitters wouldn't shield their children's bodies with their own.

niyad

(113,303 posts)
20. unfortunately, I do know that, and it makes me sick. and then there is the fact that sitters are,
Tue May 21, 2013, 11:24 AM
May 2013

in fact, looking after the children--one would think that would be worth something, yes?

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
30. Has anyone heard an update about the teacher they were afraid wouldn't make it?
Tue May 21, 2013, 09:51 PM
May 2013

The one they found under a car, shielding three students?

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