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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 21, 2013, 12:44 PM May 2013

The NRA Thinks These Are The ‘Coolest Gun Movies’ Ever

HUNTER WALKER MAY 21, 2013, 11:08 AM

After the December killings in Newtown, Conn., the National Rifle Association’s chief lambasted the the evils of violent movies and video games, saying they, rather than guns, were a source of the nation’s woes.

Now, less than six months later, the NRA’s “flagship publication,” American Rifleman, is celebrating cinematic savagery with a list of the top 10 “coolest gun movies” that unabashedly praises Hollywood depictions of death and crime.

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In addition to appearing on the American Rifleman website, the “coolest gun movies” listicle was also shared by the NRA’s official Twitter account. TPM called the NRA to ask how celebrating gun movies fit with the group’s past comments criticizing Hollywood. No one from the organization responded.

Here’s the NRA’s full list of gun flicks:

1. Red Dawn
2. The Terminator
3. The Alamo
4. Die Hard
5. The Godfather
6. Zombieland
7. The Matrix
8. The Delta Force
9. The Road Warrior
10. Tremors

full article:
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/05/nra-coolest-gun-movies.php?ref=fpblg

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The NRA Thinks These Are The ‘Coolest Gun Movies’ Ever (Original Post) DonViejo May 2013 OP
I've seen 1 out of 10. sinkingfeeling May 2013 #1
I've seen 5 of the 10... DonViejo May 2013 #2
Me too.. truebrit71 May 2013 #28
I have seen them all. Buzz Clik May 2013 #3
I gotta say, red dawn not surprising one bit nadinbrzezinski May 2013 #4
The ending sequence when Trinity and Neo bust into to release Morpheus.. truebrit71 May 2013 #29
Seen 8 of 10 - Red Dawn is such a toxic film. nt el_bryanto May 2013 #5
It's hilariously stupid. Sit back and enjoy the comedy. Dash87 May 2013 #13
wrong... Deep13 May 2013 #6
Now that is a good list CBGLuthier May 2013 #9
all good movies id say barring the matrix. loli phabay May 2013 #15
Well, I guess you either liked it or you didn't. Deep13 May 2013 #45
I feel any of the Sergio Leone Westerns could be on the list... Deep13 May 2013 #40
Add the Terrence Hill "Trinity" movies, too: kentauros May 2013 #43
Well Drifter was more of a whip film CBGLuthier May 2013 #44
Endeavor to persevere. Deep13 May 2013 #47
I lump The Seekers with Gone with the Wind CBGLuthier May 2013 #48
A Man Called Horse too. Deep13 May 2013 #49
I'd add The Professional and The Fifth Element kentauros May 2013 #37
I can see that. nt Deep13 May 2013 #39
So the NRA didn't like Django Unchained? I'm SHOCKED! not Zen Democrat May 2013 #7
Bullseye, ZD. Good one. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #8
They apparently didn't like "Inglorious Basterds" either. Must hit too close to home if you know Erose999 May 2013 #16
Silly Naggit! Guns are for white kids! n/t dogknob May 2013 #17
good movie, may have been to new to have made the list, plus it really wasnt about the guns. loli phabay May 2013 #18
where are Heat and Ronin? NightWatcher May 2013 #10
No "Heat"? HolyMoley May 2013 #11
Too intelligent and well-made for the NRA list. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #30
It's probably the realism part they don't like. kentauros May 2013 #35
I thought movies and video games BainsBane May 2013 #12
They floated that talking point immediately after Newtown Blue_Tires May 2013 #23
I think that's the point loyalsister May 2013 #52
There were more bows and flamethrowers in 'Mad Max' than guns. Aristus May 2013 #14
im trying to remember when a bow was used in the road warrior all i remember weapon wise loli phabay May 2013 #21
There were several of the settlement defenders who used a bow. Aristus May 2013 #24
i dont think we are talking about the same movie, i was thinking of the road warrior. my bad loli phabay May 2013 #25
So was I. You're right. It was 'Mad Max'. Aristus May 2013 #26
Many pointy weapons in the Road Warrior. Deep13 May 2013 #41
I guess they claim ADHD on Tremors and The Matrix. dogknob May 2013 #19
What, no Dirty Harry, or any Eastwood movies in their top 10? No Heston either... Erose999 May 2013 #20
Wow...And they have the gall to call themselves "gun enthusiasts" Blue_Tires May 2013 #22
Zombieland is actually a well done movie. Lint Head May 2013 #27
As usual the NRA nuts are once again the gang that can't shoot straight. npk May 2013 #31
I liked Red Dawn tridim May 2013 #32
I'll agree with Zombieland. Xithras May 2013 #33
fuck the nra and it's list of anything. spanone May 2013 #34
They like Zombieland but not Army of Darkness? kentauros May 2013 #36
Zombieland wins DainBramaged May 2013 #38
LOL. And these are the same people who blame gun violence on movies. JaneyVee May 2013 #42
I've seen 6-out of-10 Xyzse May 2013 #46
Shameful. The founders of the NRA are turning over in their graves. reformist2 May 2013 #50
Hmmm....there were only two guns in "The Road Warrior". MrSlayer May 2013 #51
Yeah, the NRA's cinematic tastes are utter shit Blue_Tires May 2013 #53
How did they miss Predator? Fla_Democrat May 2013 #54
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. I have seen them all.
Tue May 21, 2013, 12:53 PM
May 2013

It took me a minute to figure out how Tremors could fit in; it was the Reba McEntire basement arsenal scene. It actually was pretty funny.

Dash87

(3,220 posts)
13. It's hilariously stupid. Sit back and enjoy the comedy.
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:36 PM
May 2013

"All we need to destroy a tank is a couple of bullets!" So funny.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
6. wrong...
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:11 PM
May 2013

I don't really see The Godfather, the Road Warrior, or the first Terminator movies as, "gun movies." In a gun movie, the guns are not incidental, but are their own characters. Of these three, that is most true of the Road Warrior with Max's side-by-side and the masked guy's .357 revolver. Even so, they are bit parts.

My picks, in no particular order:

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. (converted SAA)
Sin City (Springfield 1911)
The Shootist (Colt Peacemaker)
Equilibrium (modified Beretta 92)
Dirty Harry (S&W m. 29)
The Wild Bunch (1911)
Enemy at the Gates (Mauser, Nagant)
Aliens (imaginary rifle)
The Matrix (misc.)
The Unforgiven (Schofield revolver, side-by-side)

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
9. Now that is a good list
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:30 PM
May 2013

Including a few genuinely great films. Eastwood's two westerns on the list for example.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
45. Well, I guess you either liked it or you didn't.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:09 PM
May 2013

The first film also suffers by association with the two weird sequels.

Of the gun-as-a-character films, The Matrix is the least feasible because there are so many guns that it is hard to see any one or few as their own characters. How about we replace it with Glory: Colt SAA, 1861 Springfields. Alternatively, we could add another Eastwood entry with A Fist Full of Dollars: '73 Winchester, Colt Peacemaker.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
40. I feel any of the Sergio Leone Westerns could be on the list...
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:00 PM
May 2013

...as well as High Plains Drifter and Josey Wales. Also, The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance with Jimmy Stewart and John Wayne.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
44. Well Drifter was more of a whip film
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:05 PM
May 2013

But good fun all around.

Even though I have seen around five thousand films I only got around to Josey Wales late last year. Loved Chief Dan George and the entire film.

I used to not care for westerns what with identifying with the indians more than the cowboys but Leone's films are so much better than that.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
47. Endeavor to persevere.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:20 PM
May 2013

Yeah, I guess that's true about Drifter.

Leone's movies are set in Mexico and are about Europeans (Spanish or Anglo) being bastards to each other. I don't like Westerns that portray whites as civilized and progressive against cruel or at best clueless Indians. It's not that Indians could not be cruel, but like all humans it is only part of their personalities and usually not the greatest part. Westerns that had prominent Indian roles that I liked were Dances with Wolves, Little Big Man, and movies that portray Indians as very human neighbors to settlers--like Josey Wales. ("There is iron in your words.&quot Movies with Indians I hated include The Seekers with John Wayne playing a very racist "rescuer" of a female relative who was captured and decided to stay with the Indians. Another eminently forgettable film was Legend of the Lone Ranger with Jason Robards as Pres. Grant, the guy who played Iggy on Taxi as the bad guy, and some obviously white guy as Tonto. The film was just bad, but the Tonto as noble savage made it even worse. I hope Johnny Depp does a better job.

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
48. I lump The Seekers with Gone with the Wind
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:29 PM
May 2013

beautiful films marred by racism.

The Legend of the Lone Ranger may be one of the worst films ever made. Klinton Spilsbury was not any kind of actor at all.

I agree with you about the films you mention. Particularly fond of Little Big Man as I imagine anyone who has seen it would be.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
49. A Man Called Horse too.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:48 PM
May 2013

It shows a white man who at first is horrified by the apparent cruelty of Indians (the Sioux, I think) but eventually grew to respect them and become a valued member of their group.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
16. They apparently didn't like "Inglorious Basterds" either. Must hit too close to home if you know
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:57 PM
May 2013

what I mean.
 

HolyMoley

(240 posts)
11. No "Heat"?
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:34 PM
May 2013

I'm surprised.
The botched bank robbery/shoot out scene is regarded as one of the best, most realistic filmed.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
35. It's probably the realism part they don't like.
Tue May 21, 2013, 03:08 PM
May 2013

As I recall from the director's comments, they left the original echoing sounds of the guns in place because it sounded like it would in a "real" situation. The "looped" sounds (as I recall their terminology) didn't sound right in the final edit.

And if you think about it, look at all of the other Michael Mann movies where guns are prominent, such as "Thief", "Manhunter", "Public Enemies" and they're all pretty realistic in their "gun play".

BainsBane

(53,012 posts)
12. I thought movies and video games
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:36 PM
May 2013

were supposed to be the cause of all violence, according to the NRA? Now hey have a favorites list?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
23. They floated that talking point immediately after Newtown
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:11 PM
May 2013

but it didn't take well to the public, so they quickly dropped it...

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
52. I think that's the point
Tue May 21, 2013, 05:44 PM
May 2013

Common ground with non NRA defenders who are media protectors. No one wants to consider all possible variables.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
14. There were more bows and flamethrowers in 'Mad Max' than guns.
Tue May 21, 2013, 01:38 PM
May 2013

A minor theme of the film was that ammunition was as scarce as gasoline, and conserved much more carefully than fuel. If you watch the film, you'll see profligate use of gas, and careful sparing of firearm ammunition.

Anyway, fuck the NRA and their ghoulish fetishes...

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
21. im trying to remember when a bow was used in the road warrior all i remember weapon wise
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:08 PM
May 2013

Was his sawn off, the interceptor is the main thing i remember from the movie.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
24. There were several of the settlement defenders who used a bow.
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:12 PM
May 2013

There were also trigger-activated bows mounted on the vehicles of both sides.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
25. i dont think we are talking about the same movie, i was thinking of the road warrior. my bad
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013

Incidentally the best of the franchise in my opinion.

Aristus

(66,286 posts)
26. So was I. You're right. It was 'Mad Max'.
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:16 PM
May 2013

In the first film, there were still plenty of guns and ammunition being used.

Deep13

(39,154 posts)
41. Many pointy weapons in the Road Warrior.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:02 PM
May 2013

The only guns I remember are Max's compact shotgun and the big revolver the masked guy used.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
22. Wow...And they have the gall to call themselves "gun enthusiasts"
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:09 PM
May 2013

How is that possible without even a MENTION of John Woo's immense body of work?

npk

(3,660 posts)
31. As usual the NRA nuts are once again the gang that can't shoot straight.
Tue May 21, 2013, 02:28 PM
May 2013

Their positions on their own core issues changes like the weather. Not surprising that they would be caught once again contradicting themselves.

DainBramaged

(39,191 posts)
38. Zombieland wins
Tue May 21, 2013, 03:18 PM
May 2013

and if you need a non-gun zombie protection weapon, there' nothing like Zombie tools, a real company.

http://zombietools.net/


Accessories for the apocalypse


Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
46. I've seen 6-out of-10
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:12 PM
May 2013

2, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 10.

Equilibrium was nice. Preferred it to Matrix II and came out before it.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
51. Hmmm....there were only two guns in "The Road Warrior".
Tue May 21, 2013, 05:37 PM
May 2013

Max's sawed off shotgun and Lord Humongous' .38 revolver.

Lots of crossbows and ballista weapons though and of course the feral kid's boomerang.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
53. Yeah, the NRA's cinematic tastes are utter shit
Tue May 21, 2013, 05:45 PM
May 2013

They can't even set up their "theme" lists properly...

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
54. How did they miss Predator?
Tue May 21, 2013, 05:58 PM
May 2013

The mad minute after Blaine gets killed should have at least made the top 10, if not top 5.

Although... Predators did have it's moments...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=QerUdo4q6WU&feature=endscreen




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