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MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
Tue May 21, 2013, 03:59 PM May 2013

Poll: If You Were Faced with a Decision

of whether to save a human being or a dog, if both were in peril and you could only save one, which would you save?


13 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Unlimited
The Person
7 (54%)
The Dog
0 (0%)
Neither: I\'d not risk my own safety.
0 (0%)
I\'d Call 911 and let them save one or the other.
0 (0%)
Nunna your beeswax.
0 (0%)
There is a DUer who is a dingbat.
1 (8%)
Added: It depends on who the human is and the dog.
5 (38%)
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Poll: If You Were Faced with a Decision (Original Post) MineralMan May 2013 OP
depends on the human and the dog NightWatcher May 2013 #1
I added that option to the poll. MineralMan May 2013 #3
While it would be kind of fun to watch Dick Cheney's face as I saved his dog from a fire... Ian David May 2013 #18
Cheney or an innocent loving dog with the potential to bring a lot of joy to someone... hlthe2b May 2013 #42
Human, obviously. JaneyVee May 2013 #2
human, unless it was my dog. i see my dog as part of my family La Lioness Priyanka May 2013 #4
Well get the red out May 2013 #16
Other. I'd take of video of the whole thing. Hopefully something cool would happen. Buzz Clik May 2013 #5
I'm not adding that option. Nosirree! MineralMan May 2013 #6
Good idea. You might get to be on Tosh.0 Ian David May 2013 #19
I'd watch that! Buzz Clik May 2013 #40
Both. Wait Wut May 2013 #7
If both are strangers, the human. But if it's my dog vs. Dick Cheney? Swim you war criminal, swim. Scuba May 2013 #8
depends on who the human is and the dog. Flashmann May 2013 #9
Oddly enough that is exactly what I was pondering earlier CBGLuthier May 2013 #10
Yes. That would be my decision, too. MineralMan May 2013 #11
Does this human owe me money? tkmorris May 2013 #12
Human, every time. Brickbat May 2013 #13
Thanks. That would be my call, too. MineralMan May 2013 #14
I'd choose the false dichotomy every time REP May 2013 #15
It's actually not a false dichotomy Orrex May 2013 #46
There might well also be a parameter for which COULD be saved... hlthe2b May 2013 #17
It's a simple poll. All things being equal... MineralMan May 2013 #22
Geez what a rude response for a very valid point. NO, I think I'll pass. hlthe2b May 2013 #23
It wasn't meant to be rude. I could introduce many parameters, so MineralMan May 2013 #25
Every year dogs die saving people and people die saving dogs Bluenorthwest May 2013 #20
It's just a DU poll. It's not that complicated, really. MineralMan May 2013 #21
That was my response to the poll, sorry if it's too much for you. Bluenorthwest May 2013 #27
Not at all. It doesn't matter, really, whether anyone votes or not. MineralMan May 2013 #28
People. Iggo May 2013 #24
The cat. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #26
There is no cat in the situation. MineralMan May 2013 #29
You left out the "all of the above", "maybe/maybe not", and "I don't know" options. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #31
Thanks for voting. MineralMan May 2013 #32
We agree again! Tierra_y_Libertad May 2013 #33
We really must stop doing that... MineralMan May 2013 #34
I'm channeling Jack Benny Brother Buzz May 2013 #30
Depends. What's the human's voting record? n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2013 #35
I don't think there will be time to find out, really. MineralMan May 2013 #36
I'd like to think that I'd save the human. baldguy May 2013 #37
If the "human" is Rush Limbaugh and the dog is my rescue lab, well ... sorry, Pigboy. 11 Bravo May 2013 #38
If it's a beloved pet vs a serial rapist, ya I'm saving the pet every time. nt geek tragedy May 2013 #39
If a person actually finds oneself in that situation, he/she tries to save the human. dimbear May 2013 #41
What if it were Michael Vick? Shrek May 2013 #43
It depends. LWolf May 2013 #44
I sure as hell wouldn't save the dog until I reviewed its pedigree Orrex May 2013 #45

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. depends on the human and the dog
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:01 PM
May 2013

if it was a friend or family member or a stray dog....human
if it were one of my less friendly neighbors or my dog....dog

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
18. While it would be kind of fun to watch Dick Cheney's face as I saved his dog from a fire...
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:15 PM
May 2013

... and left him behind to burn, I'm pretty sure I would save the human being, no matter who it was.

Unless they were too big to move or something.

"Sorry, I'm not strong enough to lift you, so I'll just have to save the dog."

hlthe2b

(102,130 posts)
42. Cheney or an innocent loving dog with the potential to bring a lot of joy to someone...
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:18 AM
May 2013

Hmmmm.... what a quandary, I suppose.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
4. human, unless it was my dog. i see my dog as part of my family
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:04 PM
May 2013

and if this were a quick decision, i would more like protect my family than someone else's.

although, even if it were not a quick decision, i am not a 100% sure what most people do. My pet costs a good amount of money every month, i could have given that money to charity to save humans. So in a sense, am i not picking to save my dog over humans every day?

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
16. Well
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:13 PM
May 2013

I am with you except I'm not going to feel guilty about money spent on my dog until the massive fleet of SUVs I see every day get downsized to something rational and that gas money spent to aid something living or the environment.

Ian David

(69,059 posts)
19. Good idea. You might get to be on Tosh.0
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:16 PM
May 2013

"And now, here's a man getting bitten in the nuts by his dog while his house burns down."

Wait Wut

(8,492 posts)
7. Both.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:05 PM
May 2013

Because if this situation arose and I was able to save anyone/thing, it would be a dream and I'd have super human powers. In reality, I would panic and go into hysterics and someone would have to save me.

I am not the person you want around in a life or death situation.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
8. If both are strangers, the human. But if it's my dog vs. Dick Cheney? Swim you war criminal, swim.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:07 PM
May 2013

Flashmann

(2,140 posts)
9. depends on who the human is and the dog.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:07 PM
May 2013

Someone like Michelle Bachmann,Scott Walker,Paul 'Lyin' Ryan,etc. or a stray,shit eating dog...The dog...

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
10. Oddly enough that is exactly what I was pondering earlier
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:08 PM
May 2013

I have in this house three cats, two dogs, one wife and one daughter.

The cats and dogs are on their own. If we were evacuating, say for a tornado, they could go in the car but if the house were on fire I would barely remember them.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
11. Yes. That would be my decision, too.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:09 PM
May 2013

The dog would automatically follow us, as it does all the time. The cats both disappear anytime anything weird is going on, and I'm not going hunting for them.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
46. It's actually not a false dichotomy
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:41 AM
May 2013

It's a hypothetical, posed with several specific circumstances yielding specific outcomes.


A false dichotomy, for instance, would be "If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?"

The implication is that one must choose between "doing it right the first time" and "never doing it right at all," when in fact additional outcomes are possible.

In the proposed hypothetical, the question is "If you could choose only one of two actions, which would you choose?"

A very different formulation of a very different question.

hlthe2b

(102,130 posts)
17. There might well also be a parameter for which COULD be saved...
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:14 PM
May 2013

I shouldn't expect a hopeless attempt to save the human that would render both victim and "savior' dead, whether it were a human or not...If rescuing one or the other was hopeless, for heavens sake save the one who COULD be saved.

I await to see if the minority who seems to love nothing more than to scream at animal lovers--who they maintain can not possibly love their fellow humans sufficiently as a result of their love for their animals, will have a problem with this logic as well. If they do, well, I'll leave it unsaid.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
22. It's a simple poll. All things being equal...
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:24 PM
May 2013

which would you do? That's not hard to figure out. I'm not going to clutter the poll with parameters like yours.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
25. It wasn't meant to be rude. I could introduce many parameters, so
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:28 PM
May 2013

I kept it as simple as I could. I cannot possible include every possibility. The poll is what it is. If you can't vote, that's fine. Nothing depends on it.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
20. Every year dogs die saving people and people die saving dogs
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:19 PM
May 2013

The dogs are called heroes, the people are called idiots. I think it's just a love story. I frequent a place in the mountains where everything is named after a dog who long ago died protecting his human companion who was a surveyor and named everything in sight after the dog.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
27. That was my response to the poll, sorry if it's too much for you.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:35 PM
May 2013

The hypothetical presented seemed contrived, and perhaps it is all about some current DU dust up that I don't know about.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
28. Not at all. It doesn't matter, really, whether anyone votes or not.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:36 PM
May 2013

So it has nothing to do with whether it's too much for me or not. Vote or don't vote. It's not important enough to get exercised about.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
26. The cat.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:32 PM
May 2013

I love hypothetical questions because nobody can actually answer them. "What do think you would do in this situation?" is far more apt.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
29. There is no cat in the situation.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:37 PM
May 2013

Cats generally stay out of most trouble. Dogs and humans are prone to trouble, it seems. The question is always "what do you think you would do" in this type of poll.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
31. You left out the "all of the above", "maybe/maybe not", and "I don't know" options.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:45 PM
May 2013

And, I would bet that most people really don't know but are speculating.

There are far too many "what ifs" involved.

What if the guy had just beaten your child to death with a hammer?

What if the dog is rabid?

etc, etc, etc.

I chose the "it depends" answer.

MineralMan

(146,255 posts)
32. Thanks for voting.
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:48 PM
May 2013

Typically, in such situations, the decision is a quick one. This is about such a situation.

Some people don't decide until it's too late. That's a decision, too.

Brother Buzz

(36,380 posts)
30. I'm channeling Jack Benny
Tue May 21, 2013, 04:40 PM
May 2013

Robber: Your money or your life

Jack Benny: (deadpan stare)

Robber: Look buddy, I said, your money or your life

jack Benny: I'm thinking it over!

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
41. If a person actually finds oneself in that situation, he/she tries to save the human.
Tue May 21, 2013, 05:58 PM
May 2013

You can't help yourself, it's automatic. Even someone you don't like.

Shrek

(3,975 posts)
43. What if it were Michael Vick?
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:25 AM
May 2013

I don't know that I have it in me to save him instead of an innocent dog.

Honestly I have to take the final option in your poll even though I'm not 100% comfortable with it.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
44. It depends.
Wed May 22, 2013, 08:37 AM
May 2013

In most cases, assuming that both were equally accessible and possible to save, it would be the person.

There are so many persons, though, that do not make the world a better place though, and dogs that do.

If I didn't know the person, I'd assume the best. If I did, though...

I can think of people that would be second to the dog.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
45. I sure as hell wouldn't save the dog until I reviewed its pedigree
Wed May 22, 2013, 09:02 AM
May 2013

I mean, I would hate to tell the story afterwards only to be scolded for scandalously misidentifying the breed.

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