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The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:09 PM May 2013

Women 40 Percent More Likely To Develop Mental Illness Than Men

ATLANTA (CBS ATLANTA) – There is a gender gap for mental illness, with females being up to 40 percent more likely to develop some type of mental health condition than their male counterparts.

A new study to be published by Oxford University Press finds that women are nearly 75 percent more likely than men to have suffered from depression, and approximately 60 percent more likely to report an anxiety disorder.

The U.K. study was led by Dr. Daniel Freeman, who said his latest research set to appear in the book, “The Stressed Sex: Uncovering the Truth about Men, Women and Mental Health,” sets out to answer a simple but crucial question: are rates of psychological disorder different between men and women?

“This important issue has been largely ignored in all the debates raging about gender differences,” Dr. Freeman stated on his website.

http://atlanta.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/study-women-40-percent-more-likely-to-develop-mental-illness-than-men/

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Women 40 Percent More Likely To Develop Mental Illness Than Men (Original Post) The Straight Story May 2013 OP
Probably because they have to put up with a male dominated world. hobbit709 May 2013 #1
Yes, powerlessness can lead to depression. When you realize that you're at the mercy SharonAnn May 2013 #12
Of course, what gets defined as a mental illness geek tragedy May 2013 #2
Good read. proverbialwisdom May 2013 #29
"men have externalising problem....snip.... such as alcohol and anger problems.” bettyellen May 2013 #3
must ... resist ... urge ... snarky .... comment Buzz Clik May 2013 #4
I know... greytdemocrat May 2013 #28
Meh. It's about 'reporting' disorders. Seeking treatment, etc leftstreet May 2013 #5
Good point. HappyMe May 2013 #8
Exactly! Nancy Waterman May 2013 #13
They're more likely to have alcohol and anger problems. nt raccoon May 2013 #17
Or, Women 40 Percent More Likely To "Be Diagnosed With" Mental Illness Than Men siligut May 2013 #16
Absolutely. dog_lovin_dem May 2013 #33
Gee, why on earth would women be 75% more likely to suffer from depression... redqueen May 2013 #6
Post removed Post removed May 2013 #22
I once visited a friend Cirque du So-What May 2013 #7
Women are Crazy because Men are Assholes. librechik May 2013 #9
Well, that's probably one of the reasons. undeterred May 2013 #15
Interesting --likely some gender factors marions ghost May 2013 #10
LOL ismnotwasm May 2013 #11
Carlin had a way of summing things up in just the right way... bunnies May 2013 #20
Women are more likely to be traumatized by Ilsa May 2013 #14
More Soviet psychiatry? siligut May 2013 #18
"Develop" or "Be diagnosed with"? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #19
Exactly! n/t etherealtruth May 2013 #21
Check it out, although it doesn't sound plausible and the stats are nonspecific. proverbialwisdom May 2013 #31
Thanks etherealtruth May 2013 #32
+1. If you're a woman and the doctors can't figure out what's wrong with you, winter is coming May 2013 #23
I do not think that is accurate. Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #24
That's probably not the overt thought process, but the outward result is the same. winter is coming May 2013 #26
Lord I hate studies like this. SO simplistic and poorly conveyed. nolabear May 2013 #25
I don't buy it. MadrasT May 2013 #27
I've read it's the way their brains are wired LittleBlue May 2013 #30
This is well-known BainsBane May 2013 #34
Poverty--if people are looking for a cause BainsBane May 2013 #35
this is a study olddots May 2013 #36
We also often have a hell of a lot more stress n/t Marrah_G May 2013 #37

SharonAnn

(13,772 posts)
12. Yes, powerlessness can lead to depression. When you realize that you're at the mercy
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:16 PM
May 2013

of the powerful, and that nothing you do will change that, it can lead to depression.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
5. Meh. It's about 'reporting' disorders. Seeking treatment, etc
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:33 PM
May 2013

Dumb article. If it had to be written at all....it should have stated 'women more likely than men' to report problems and/or seek treatment.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
16. Or, Women 40 Percent More Likely To "Be Diagnosed With" Mental Illness Than Men
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:41 PM
May 2013

But then that brings up the question of gender bias in defining what constitutes a mental disorder.

True, dumb article, but it was probably written more to influence than inform.

dog_lovin_dem

(309 posts)
33. Absolutely.
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:24 PM
May 2013

Women report ALL health issues at a higher rate than men do, be it a physical or emotional issue.
Men are socialized to be "strong", though imho, it takes strength to admit one has a problem, no matter what your gender.

Response to redqueen (Reply #6)

Cirque du So-What

(25,932 posts)
7. I once visited a friend
Thu May 23, 2013, 01:36 PM
May 2013

who had checked himself into the mental ward of a hospital for a 72-hour tune-up on the medication he was taking for depression. In the visiting room, I noticed that all the other patients were female, so I asked him about it, and he confirmed that he was the only male in the entire ward. From that, I surmised that it had something to do with males being less likely to admit they may have a problem and then to seek help for it.

marions ghost

(19,841 posts)
10. Interesting --likely some gender factors
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:05 PM
May 2013

involved, though I don't doubt male depression is under-reported.

Women take on more of the emotional burden of a group usually. Men don't send sympathy cards. Women tend to blame themselves, men blame others (maybe having to do with the fact that women deduce from childhood on that they are inferior, while men are taught they are superior--just a theory).

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Women may report depression more, but men more often act to end it all. Men commit suicide more, especially in bad economic times:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/03/health/suicide-rate-rises-sharply-in-us.html?_r=0

In 2010 there were 33,687 deaths from motor vehicle crashes and 38,364 suicides.

Suicide has typically been viewed as a problem of teenagers and the elderly, and the surge in suicide rates among middle-aged Americans is surprising.

From 1999 to 2010, the suicide rate among Americans ages 35 to 64 rose by nearly 30 percent, to 17.6 deaths per 100,000 people, up from 13.7. Although suicide rates are growing among both middle-aged men and women, far more men take their own lives. The suicide rate for middle-aged men was 27.3 deaths per 100,000, while for women it was 8.1 deaths per 100,000.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
11. LOL
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:15 PM
May 2013

While if this was even close to being true, it makes me think men are under-diagnosed and under-treated, rather than being less troubled than women----all I can think of right now is the great George Carlin (with apologies for all the smart men, and sane women both in life and around the world)



And since I suspect this thread won't end well, I will now put it away.

 

bunnies

(15,859 posts)
20. Carlin had a way of summing things up in just the right way...
Thu May 23, 2013, 04:27 PM
May 2013

didnt he? Im SO stealing that pic.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
14. Women are more likely to be traumatized by
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:30 PM
May 2013

rape, violence, cognitive dissonance when they can't live up to super-moralized purity expectations, being stressed from quadruple-duty as employees, mothers, wives, and housekeepers. We worry about poverty in our old age because we make less than men.

So, yes, we have a lot to be anxious or depressed about.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
18. More Soviet psychiatry?
Thu May 23, 2013, 02:46 PM
May 2013

Crazy people have no power. Get rid of females and minorities and the RW can coast into office.

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
31. Check it out, although it doesn't sound plausible and the stats are nonspecific.
Thu May 23, 2013, 07:47 PM
May 2013
http://blog.nj.com/njv_guest_blog/2013/04/getting_your_medical_diagnosis.html

Getting your medical diagnosis right: Opinion
4/13/13
ByEvan Falchuk

...According to published studies, anywhere from 15 to 28 percent of patients are getting the wrong diagnoses.

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winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
23. +1. If you're a woman and the doctors can't figure out what's wrong with you,
Thu May 23, 2013, 05:09 PM
May 2013

it's not that unusual to be diagnosed with depression. The unspoken attitude seems to be, "I can't figure it out, so it's probably not real, so you're probably depressed. Take these pills and go away."

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
24. I do not think that is accurate.
Thu May 23, 2013, 05:13 PM
May 2013

I very much doubt that the thought processes of doctors even remotely resemble that more than very occasionally.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
26. That's probably not the overt thought process, but the outward result is the same.
Thu May 23, 2013, 06:30 PM
May 2013

Unless all of your female friends are fairly young, I expect if you spoke to several of them, it would not take you long to find one who's had this experience... sometimes going from doctor to doctor for several months, or even years, reporting that they feel unwell and being told they're "normal" but perhaps some antidepressants would be helpful? Only to eventually discover that they have something not easily diagnosed in its early stages, and not depression.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
25. Lord I hate studies like this. SO simplistic and poorly conveyed.
Thu May 23, 2013, 05:19 PM
May 2013

"Mental illness" is a catch-all and about as useful as "physical illness" when describing cancer, athlete's foot and fibroids. It's not worth arguing.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
30. I've read it's the way their brains are wired
Thu May 23, 2013, 07:23 PM
May 2013

The part of their brain that perceives emotions is larger than men, so they are more likely to be depressed and feel it with a higher intensity. Plus I think they blame and criticize themselves more often than men, and are more likely to have self esteem problems.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
34. This is well-known
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:28 PM
May 2013

The numbers are higher because major (uni-polar) depression is the most common mental illness, and it occurs far more frequently in women than men. There is a higher incidence of schizophrenia in men and possibly bi-polar depression as well. I'm guessing that more women develop Borderline Personality Disorder, which is always very common, increasingly so as psychiatrists are more likely to diagnose it now.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
35. Poverty--if people are looking for a cause
Thu May 23, 2013, 08:31 PM
May 2013

Rates of poverty are much higher among women, and poverty is the kind of environmental stressor that triggers illnesses like depression. Depression also makes it harder for women to move out of poverty.

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