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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:33 AM May 2013

I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/ak-47-semi-automatic-rifle-building-party

The wooden and steel parts I need to build my untraceable AK-47 fit within a slender, 15-by-12-inch cardboard box. I first lay eyes on them one Saturday morning in the garage of an eggshell-white industrial complex near Los Angeles. Foldout tables ring the edges of the room, surrounding two orange shop presses. The walls, dusty and stained, are lined with shelves of tools. I'm with a dozen other guys, some sipping coffee, others making introductions over the buzz of an air compressor. Most of us are strangers, but we share a common bond: We are just eight hours away from having our very own AK-47—one the government will never know about.

The AK-47, perhaps the world's best-known gun, is so easy to make and so hard to break that the Soviet-designed original has spawned countless variants, updated and modified versions churned out by factories all over the globe. Although US customs laws ban importing the weapons, parts kits—which include most original components of a Kalashnikov variant—are legal. So is reassembling them, as long as no more than 10 foreign-made components are used and they are mounted on a new receiver, the box-shaped central frame that holds the gun's key mechanics. There are no fussy irritations like, say, passing a background check to buy a kit. And because we're assembling the guns for our own "personal use," whatever that may entail, we're not required to stamp in serial numbers. These rifles are totally untraceable, and even under California's stringent assault weapons ban, that's perfectly within the law.

Among those ready to get going at this "build party" (none of whom wanted their names used) are a father-son duo getting in some bonding time and a well-bellied sixtysomething with a white Fu Manchu who "loves" the click-ack! sound of a round being chambered. Assembling a Romanian variant is a builder wearing a camo jacket and a hat embroidered with an AR-15 rifle above the legend "Come and take it." His knuckle tattoos read "PRAY HARD."

We crowd in as our three hosts, all expert gun assemblers, hand out waivers with a list of questions: Are you a convicted felon? Ever been dishonorably discharged from the military? Addicted to drugs? Mentally unstable? The guy in camo looks up and, to much laughter, says, "So it's all 'No,' right?"


The AK-47 is probably more geopolitically significant than the Atomic bomb, if I had to choose.
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I Built This AK-47. It's Legal and Totally Untraceable. (Original Post) Recursion May 2013 OP
Interesting Puzzledtraveller May 2013 #1
You never forget that sound Recursion May 2013 #2
In Boot Camp. premium May 2013 #17
This clown may have built a gun but it sure as hell isn't legal 1-Old-Man May 2013 #3
It's entirely legal. The gun was not automatic. Recursion May 2013 #4
Uhh, it is fully legal to make your own gun premium May 2013 #7
Flat bending parties are a regular event here in GA. aikoaiko May 2013 #5
i want one and i don't even like guns dembotoz May 2013 #6
This demonstrates why laws should focus on the gun user/possessor... Sancho May 2013 #8
I definitely agree. We need a Federal Firearms Operators License Recursion May 2013 #9
+1000. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #10
paladin and I agree on something Recursion May 2013 #14
My agreement was with Sancho's post, not you. (nt) Paladin May 2013 #15
Phew.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #16
Good one. Paladin May 2013 #18
and i agree with Sancho's post Recursion May 2013 #21
Excellent. Lizzie Poppet May 2013 #11
Even Canada tried long gun registry and it was a failure. roamer65 May 2013 #20
Coming up: Biologist releases plans for homemade Biological Weapons.... Junkdrawer May 2013 #12
They have an illness - they need help - no help available. Junkdrawer May 2013 #13
video DainBramaged May 2013 #19
The cognitive dissonance is very strong in this thread. People just don't want to admit it's true. Poll_Blind May 2013 #22
 

premium

(3,731 posts)
17. In Boot Camp.
Sat May 25, 2013, 10:21 AM
May 2013

we were taught the difference in sounds between the AK-47 and the M-16.
When I arrived in country, in Vietnam, I immediately knew when an AK-47 was being fired, something I never have forgotten.

1-Old-Man

(2,667 posts)
3. This clown may have built a gun but it sure as hell isn't legal
Fri May 24, 2013, 08:57 AM
May 2013

Its called a Federal Firearms Permit if I'm not mistaken and it is incredibly difficult to obtain one that allows a person to build a fully automatic weapon. I have a close friend who has that license and has in fact made 1 fully automatic gun (though nothing much like an AK) and I worked with a fellow who set up to build receivers in his garage but is in jail right now for doing it. Short ending to the story, if you think any clown with a lathe can legally make his own gun you're out of your mind.

 

premium

(3,731 posts)
7. Uhh, it is fully legal to make your own gun
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:15 AM
May 2013

as long as it's not full auto and you are not going to sell it.

dembotoz

(16,802 posts)
6. i want one and i don't even like guns
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:10 AM
May 2013

and I want one of those made on a copy machine plastic guns too.

that is part of the problem
a lot of this gun stuff is just cool

I do not hunt
I do not even like to fish because I feel sorry for the worms....

but damnit
this is cool

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
8. This demonstrates why laws should focus on the gun user/possessor...
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:26 AM
May 2013

I'm a gun owner, and I think all gun users should...

1.) have a license (after background check and mental health clearance)
2.) take required safety courses and demonstrat performance to renew the license
3.) obtain gun-owners insurance (and companies might require listing guns, safe storage, etc.)
4.) register all guns the licensed users possesses including homemade, inherited, purchased, etc.)
5.) present a valid license to purchase guns, ammo, gun parts, etc.
6.) present a valid license to enter a gun club, obtain a hunting license, etc.

Just like a DUI, if you possess a gun without such a license, then you go to jail and your gun goes to impound until a judge let's you go.

It's past time to do something about all the guns...and this article highlights yet another loophole.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
9. I definitely agree. We need a Federal Firearms Operators License
Fri May 24, 2013, 09:27 AM
May 2013

That is not a registry. That does not let the government know who owns what. That is simply a license that pre-clears possessors to enjoy the rights afforded under the 2nd amendment.

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
11. Excellent.
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:38 AM
May 2013

With the exception of registration (which I consider largely useless), I concur on all points.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
20. Even Canada tried long gun registry and it was a failure.
Sat May 25, 2013, 12:11 PM
May 2013

I don't disagree with you on some of your points, but a lot of them won't work in America. Guns are too ingrained into our culture now. It will eventually have to be all or nothing.

Junkdrawer

(27,993 posts)
12. Coming up: Biologist releases plans for homemade Biological Weapons....
Fri May 24, 2013, 10:46 AM
May 2013

That'll learn those damn Erlenmeyer flask grabbers....

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
22. The cognitive dissonance is very strong in this thread. People just don't want to admit it's true.
Sat May 25, 2013, 10:51 PM
May 2013

Or didn't realize it was true. After looking at the recs, I suppose it should be expected that nobody's ever going to throw a party for someone who appraises them of a disturbing truth...but the reaction to the truth of a matter is immaterial to the validity of the truth, itself.

And this is in California.

PB

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