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MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:01 AM May 2013

A caller on a local AM radio talk show

in the Twin Cities asked the host of the show whether he would be in favor of allowing his daughter to share a tent with a heterosexual boy. This was, of course, a discussion about the BSA dropping its rule against gay scouters.

The host was in favor of the BSA's rule change, but couldn't come up with a counter argument for this caller. That segment of the show is over, but the host missed an opportunity here.

It's not a matter of sharing a tent with someone. If I were the host of the show, I'd have said, "Well, I let my teenaged daughter go on dates with boys in their cars. I don't see the difference, really. If they're going to have sex, they'll find a place to do that, regardless of my wishes. Whether my daughter has sex with a boy is not something I can control, whether it's in a tent or the back seat of his car."

The assumption that caller was trying to promote is that all gay Boy Scouts are trying to have sex with all other Boy Scouts, and shouldn't be allowed to be in the Boy Scouts. That's just a silly argument. Adolescent boys make their own decisions in matters of sex. If they want to have sex, they will. Scouting is about other stuff, not sex. The assumption that a gay Boy Scout can convert a heterosexual Boy Scout into a gay Boy Scout is an invalid assumption. People do not choose their sexual orientation. It's not an issue.

No doubt parents worry about their children who are adolescents. They worry about them having sex, too. But kids are allowed to date, and to be alone with other kids. Their orientation isn't the issue. Adolescents make their own decisions. Thus has it always been.

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Happyhippychick

(8,379 posts)
1. Why didn't the caller ask if he would let his son share a tent with a girl? I can tell you why.
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:05 AM
May 2013

Because when parents worry about their daughters sharing a tent with a boy they are concerned about her safety first and her sexuality second. We don't "worry" that a boy will be taken advantage of by a girl, at least for the most part. What these people are concerned about is not that their boys will have sex, but that their boys will be raped. So now we are labeling homosexual men as rapists because that is another way to demonize them.

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
2. Good point.
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:07 AM
May 2013

The rape thing wasn't in my thinking. It's equally specious as an argument. Thanks.

Bottom line is that we allow our children, especially our adolescent children, to venture out into the world. Risks ensue.

That said, when I was a sophomore in high school, a girl who was a senior did try to take advantage of me. I allowed her to do that. Enthusiastically, I must admit.

Arkansas Granny

(31,502 posts)
3. It's true that most of the straight men I know think that gay men are always looking for a straight
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:33 AM
May 2013

guy or boy to have sex with, therefore accusing them all of being rapists and/or pedophiles. They will not consider any other scenario.

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
4. Most of the straight guys I know think no such thing.
Fri May 24, 2013, 11:57 AM
May 2013

I'm sure there are people who think that, but thinking people don't.

Arkansas Granny

(31,502 posts)
5. I didn't claim that they were thinking people, just how they felt. They truly believe
Fri May 24, 2013, 12:06 PM
May 2013

that all gay men are predators. Most of them are not even aware that they have most likely had dealings with a gay man at one time or another because they are expecting the stereotype that they see on tv.

MineralMan

(146,241 posts)
6. There may be differences in how people think, based on
Fri May 24, 2013, 12:07 PM
May 2013

regions, too. We apparently know different people, I think.

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