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cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
Fri May 24, 2013, 01:52 PM May 2013

The Collapse Of Public Infrastructure Spending In One Chart

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The big news today is that a bridge in Washington collapsed, throwing cars into the water. Amazingly, nobody died.

This may revive debate about the need to spend more on infrastructure, which would have multiple positive effects.

Nothing is likely to happen, however.

That being said, here's a chart of public construction spending (TLPBLCONS) as percentage of GDP.

You can see, public construction spending is lower than its been in over 20 years.

http://www.businessinsider.com/skagit-bridge-collapse-infrastructure-spending-2013-5#ixzz2UEYXhAMb

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The Collapse Of Public Infrastructure Spending In One Chart (Original Post) cynatnite May 2013 OP
The problem with this chart is, that it only goes back 20 years! LongTomH May 2013 #1
That is a bit misleading BlueStreak May 2013 #2
Infrastructure spending is the first thought that came to mind when... thecrow May 2013 #3
Billions, or a percentage of that? Compare that with the money squandered in the optional Iraq war. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #4
I have the solution! Bannakaffalatta May 2013 #5

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
1. The problem with this chart is, that it only goes back 20 years!
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:05 PM
May 2013

If it went back to the 50s, or better yet, to the days of the New Deal, it would be a lot more instructive.

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
2. That is a bit misleading
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:11 PM
May 2013

This chart it as a % of GDP, and then focuses on a very tight scale to amplify any change. The fact is that the spending has been a little under 2% of GDP, and of course the number goes up during a recession because what happens to GDP during a recession?

Right, GDP goes down, or at least stops growing.

I would be interested in seeing the total infrastructure spending, not normalized to GDP. I doubt that we would see such a reduction, mainly because so much of the infrastructure spending is funded by gas taxes.

And that opens up another kettle of fish. One of the real successes of the Obama years, which nobody talks about, is a huge improvement in the MPG that cars are getting. This has been the main factor in a leveling off of gasoline consumption.


We have more cars than ever beating up the infrastructure, but we are paying less fuel tax to fund the road maintenance.

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
3. Infrastructure spending is the first thought that came to mind when...
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:14 PM
May 2013

I woke up this morning and saw the story about the bridge collapse.
I saw how rusty it looked and how it just came undone. I'm glad the people are ok, but you know, in his campaign. Obama was talking about this very thing and was urging more infrastructure spending as the Republicans scoffed. It's a shame Congress is so dysfunctional, because this might have been very tragic.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
4. Billions, or a percentage of that? Compare that with the money squandered in the optional Iraq war.
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:41 PM
May 2013

Iraq War Cost U.S. More Than $2 Trillion, Could Grow to $6 Trillion,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/14/iraq-war-cost-more-than-2-trillion_n_2875493.html

 

Bannakaffalatta

(94 posts)
5. I have the solution!
Fri May 24, 2013, 02:44 PM
May 2013

Uncovert and then convert 14 of the 16 national security?/?intelligence agencies, with their same unaccountable budgets, one to each major concern. But restrict their labour recruitment activity to within America.

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