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Beaverhausen

(24,703 posts)
1. I smell meth
Sun May 26, 2013, 10:52 PM
May 2013

I don't mean that what happened is ok by any means. I'm just saying sounds like the guy was very messed up. Doesn't deserve to die. P S I was just visiting that area this weekend.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
4. The newscaster says that he doesn't know why the man died? Well, if you hit a person in the
Sun May 26, 2013, 11:11 PM
May 2013

head enough times, the brain will swell until the person is adequately treated to stop the swelling or dies.

If the police didn't want the guy on the ground to die, maybe they should have stopped hitting him in the head.

The newscaster also says that he doesn't know whether the guy on the ground had drugs in his system or not. Even when a person on drugs gets repeatedly hit in the head, their brain will swell.

 

newmember

(805 posts)
5. The cops in this country are out of control
Sun May 26, 2013, 11:28 PM
May 2013

No matter what had transpired before (unless this guy had a gun in his hand) which he didn't.

There is absolutely no reason to keep beating him when a officer is lying on top of him and several other officers
have surrounded him.

none what so ever , so it might take a little longer to cuff him ..so what
at this point the man is no danger from that video.

 

AnotherMcIntosh

(11,064 posts)
6. They apparently let the woman cop have some practice with her baton. But she didn't have
Sun May 26, 2013, 11:37 PM
May 2013

the upper body strength to knock him into unconsciousness as efficiently as one of the male cops on steroids.

She tried, but she just couldn't put him out. Even when they were holding him so she could give free wacks, with any stance that she wanted, she still couldn't put him out.

At any rate, it's now time for the cops (and some others) to blame this guy for whatever he did before he was put into position where she could take her free swings.

lpbk2713

(43,284 posts)
8. Obviously psychiatric screening is not part of the employment process ...
Mon May 27, 2013, 12:32 AM
May 2013

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in the hiring of Sacramento PD recruits.

And it clearly ought to be. As well as with many other LE agencies.
This sort of incident is becoming far too common place.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
9. Don't worry, the police will investigate themselves
Mon May 27, 2013, 01:01 AM
May 2013

while all involved will ge a free vacation (months of paid administrative leave) then be found to be operating within "departmental policy" then be reinstated and probably promoted.

This post is not sarcasm. I've seen this play out dozens of times, it's how it's done in California.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
15. Even if they do lose their jobs, they will wind up working for another agency.
Mon May 27, 2013, 02:49 PM
May 2013

I live in a small county and our Sheriff's dept is full of cast-offs that were fired from other depts. for various reasons. But before that happens, they will sue their current dept. when and if they are fired, costing the taxpayers a fortune in legal fees.

Even the BART cop who mudered that teenager a few years ago by shooting him in the back while he was being held down by another officer only went to jail for a matter of months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BART_Police_shooting_of_Oscar_Grant

A close eye needs to be kept on this guy or he will wind up in a uniform again. It really wouldn't surprise me.

It's frightening to think about how much of this stuff went on before nearly every citizen was carrying a cell phone/camera. I fear it was business as usual and easy to cover up.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
14. Yeah, and I wouldn't doubt that the investigation goes something like this.
Mon May 27, 2013, 09:22 AM
May 2013

Investigator: Hey Mike, that scumbag you beat to death, he was resisting right?

Mike: Yeah, I told him to stop resisting and put his hands behind his back.

Investigator: Tommy was behind choking him and had his arms pinned by the at the time right?

Mike: Yeah, you should have seen him turning blue man, it was beautiful, his tongue all hanging out and shit.

Investigator: Well, sounds good to me. Keep up the good work. Let me go write this up and tell the morons who pay our salary that you are devastated that you had to take a life and sincerely wish that there was an alternative open to you.

Mike: Yeah, and tell them that I'm totally dedicated to protecting them from the criminal element while I am on administrative leave, and look forward to getting back to the job of protecting the innocent.

Investigator: Right, so where you going on administrative leave?

Mike: I'm going to Disneyland, but tell the morons of the press that I'm in seclusion to get over the horrible events that led to the loss of life.

Investigator: Right, I'll be sure to do that.

Everybody laughs as they go their separate ways, another good days work, and another trial avoided by killing the poor bastard they targeted.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
13. Let me get this straight.
Mon May 27, 2013, 07:57 AM
May 2013

There were three police officers, a three to one advantage. They had him on the ground, but still could not manage to take him into custody without beating him to death? At the minimum, all three cops should be fired because they are beyond inept. They are so incapable of making an arrest that three of them who had him subdued were not able to restrain him without killing him is inexcusable. I would say that charges are certainly warranted, but cops never get charged, they're protected by the thin blue line silence society.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
16. Current day police have NO INCENTIVE to risk anything. If they tried to subdue....
Mon May 27, 2013, 02:52 PM
May 2013

him they might get hurt. Sprained ankle, bruises, etc.

Beating him to death is injury free and no down side as they will not get punished.

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