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Before the Internet, did you know there were so many crazies in the world? (Original Post) raccoon May 2013 OP
I figured that one out 40 years ago. hobbit709 May 2013 #1
About that long ago for me too madokie May 2013 #10
Or maybe the Internets have made some of them more crazy BlueStreak May 2013 #2
I sure didn't! I knew there were some (got a nasty response to my LTTE twice) BlueCaliDem May 2013 #3
Me neither. Conspiracy theory people never crossed my path. graham4anything May 2013 #4
Me neither... pipi_k May 2013 #5
I'm a native New Yorker, so, yes. nt msanthrope May 2013 #6
I certainly did. Nimajneb Nilknarf May 2013 #7
I'm from SlowHio and experienced it's small towns from all areas, so . . . yes, I did. HughBeaumont May 2013 #8
Family cookouts took care of it for me. nt NCTraveler May 2013 #9
Yeah. Neoma May 2013 #11
maybe they just play it on the internet hfojvt May 2013 #12
I knew there were some, but I never realized how many and how crazy. Arkansas Granny May 2013 #13
Yes, I knew there were a lot of crazy people in the world, smirkymonkey May 2013 #22
Back in the mid-70s, I had naively believed that they were all concentrated in Arkansas Art_from_Ark May 2013 #40
The semi-literates, IMO, pale in comparison to the willfully ignorant and uninformed. Arkansas Granny May 2013 #41
I personally think there is a strong connection between semi-literacy Art_from_Ark May 2013 #42
Yep, we knew there were crazies! Some were my friends and relatives! Sancho May 2013 #14
Yes, I grew up in Crazyville and moved away the day I graduated High School. Tikki May 2013 #15
Me neither. I had no idea. stevenleser May 2013 #16
The Internet has proliferated crazy. Pragdem May 2013 #17
Sort of, what I didn't know... hootinholler May 2013 #18
Crazy Octafish May 2013 #19
That's a great quote by Crazy George Dubya at that site. Major Hogwash May 2013 #37
No. HappyMe May 2013 #20
Nope. But I bought all that of, by and for the people stuff hook, line and sinker in school. raouldukelives May 2013 #21
Nope LeftInTX May 2013 #23
YES!!!! burrowowl May 2013 #24
NO! zappaman May 2013 #25
Yes. temporary311 May 2013 #26
Yes bigwillq May 2013 #27
nope Marrah_G May 2013 #28
Nope. Not even a little bit. Zoeisright May 2013 #29
Yes. When Reagan was elected and re-elected HERVEPA May 2013 #30
Unfortunately, Yes. I was a regular newpaper reader - not just the Enquirer. dballance May 2013 #31
As it turns out, quite a few crazies here at DU Silent3 May 2013 #32
The internet was actually pretty cool until AOL got on it. Then things went fucking downhill fast. Poll_Blind May 2013 #33
I'd lived in the south, so yes I did. Warpy May 2013 #34
Yes. What I never guessed was just how horrible the "sane" people are. n/t Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #35
opposite for me. Notafraidtoo May 2013 #36
Wrong. There is only one. Warren DeMontague May 2013 #38
How many of you think you come over at *your* best on the internet? Donald Ian Rankin May 2013 #39
Had my suspicions, but didn't figure on them finding each other, which WWW access has accomplished. VOX May 2013 #43

madokie

(51,076 posts)
10. About that long ago for me too
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:31 AM
May 2013

about the time of nixon I realized there is some crazy birds out there and a bunch of 'm

 

BlueStreak

(8,377 posts)
2. Or maybe the Internets have made some of them more crazy
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:10 AM
May 2013

The 'net allows like-minded voices to collaborate in ways that were never possible before. It is definitely a mixed blessing when you look at how it has enabled a whole industry of hate to thrive.

On the other hand, did you know just how corrupt our economic and political system had become? We probably had some suspicions, but the Internet allows us to get real facts out into the open and to connect the dots in ways that the 0.1% never wanted to see in the light of day.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
3. I sure didn't! I knew there were some (got a nasty response to my LTTE twice)
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:17 AM
May 2013

and those were crazy enough, but I never could've imagined there were this many...although we shouldn't forget that people feel they can espouse the nuttiest things on online MB's with impunity - especially if there isn't a moderator. Also, it isn't that hard for some idiots to make multiple monikers in order to appear as if they are legion.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
8. I'm from SlowHio and experienced it's small towns from all areas, so . . . yes, I did.
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:31 AM
May 2013

Not even NE Ohio is free from the Tea.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. Yes, I knew there were a lot of crazy people in the world,
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:36 PM
May 2013

but until I started going on line, I had no idea as to the depth and breadth of the situation. It's mind blowing.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
40. Back in the mid-70s, I had naively believed that they were all concentrated in Arkansas
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:41 AM
May 2013

But once I started traveling to other states on my own, especially by bicycle, I crossed paths with some real loonies, in every single one of those states.

What the Internet has done is show me that there are far more semi-literates than I had imagined out there.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
42. I personally think there is a strong connection between semi-literacy
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:14 AM
May 2013

and being willfully ignorant and uninformed.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
14. Yep, we knew there were crazies! Some were my friends and relatives!
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:38 AM
May 2013

When I was burning draft cards and wearing tie-dyes shirts, my parents thought I was completely nuts! Dad wanted to send me to a therapist (really)!

...and there were conspiracy theories too!!! I remember my father almost threw me out because I told him that Nixon had ordered a break-in at a hotel!!!

 

Pragdem

(233 posts)
17. The Internet has proliferated crazy.
Tue May 28, 2013, 10:48 AM
May 2013

I never heard some of the insane ideas and theories that persist online, even here in rural Kentucky.

There's nothing I would change about the way the Internet works, but there are some people that would be better off just watching CNN/MSNBC and reading The New York Times for their information.

I get so sick of hearing people parrot bullshit they saw in some low-budget YouTube documentary and tibits of batshit from a blog they found on page 47 of their Google search results.

Being hipsterish about where you get your movies and music is fine, but don't do it with information. Just don't.

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
19. Crazy
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:13 AM
May 2013

From Winterboy:

One Bush becomes a head of the WWI War Industries Board (enriching his family and friends); a second Bush later brokers weapons investments for Nazi Germany (enriching his family and friends); and a third Bush creates the largest annual defense budget in world history (enriching his family and friends)!

SOURCE via Way Bac: http://web.archive.org/web/20040315023134/http://www.winterboy.com/dejavu.html

PS: Those interested in preserving history before it is scrubbed by the good folks at your local data collection center should download their own copy of the 520 page e-book.

PPS: The sample above was from before a fourth Bush lied America into a war (enriching his family and friends)!.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
37. That's a great quote by Crazy George Dubya at that site.
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:26 AM
May 2013
Look, our strategy is to create chaos, to create a vacuum...We will export death and violence to the four corners of the earth in defense of our great nation.

President George W Bush, 2002.

Yup, they created a vacuum all right, they sucked everything they could in to a black hole called the "War on Terrorism"

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
21. Nope. But I bought all that of, by and for the people stuff hook, line and sinker in school.
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:35 AM
May 2013

I just naturally assumed that was how most people felt. Quite the wake-up call.

Zoeisright

(8,339 posts)
29. Nope. Not even a little bit.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:16 AM
May 2013

I thought this world and this country were getting better. I don't see that at all; it seems like the deliberately ignorant and hateful numbers are increasing. And the internet gives those assholes a platform.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
31. Unfortunately, Yes. I was a regular newpaper reader - not just the Enquirer.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:21 AM
May 2013

Although reading the Enquirer for its entertainment sake did lead me to believe there were tons of crazies out there who believed it was real news.

I think people just read more news now because it's so much easier. We used to actually have to subscribe to a paper and then pass it around the house if everyone wanted to read it. We also only had three TV channels. ABC, CBS, and NBC. On a good day we could get PBS over our rabbit ears antenna.

Now we're so barraged by content (I can't call it news anymore) coming at us it's easy to see how people are just now realizing how crazy, screwed up some people are.

Silent3

(15,211 posts)
32. As it turns out, quite a few crazies here at DU
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:37 AM
May 2013

It's a form of crazy that's much generally easier for me to put up with than what you find in Freeperland, of course, and we Democrats don't keep voting our craziest menbers into elected office to anywhere near the same degree that the Republicans/teabaggers do.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
33. The internet was actually pretty cool until AOL got on it. Then things went fucking downhill fast.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:52 AM
May 2013

Real fast.

PB

Warpy

(111,256 posts)
34. I'd lived in the south, so yes I did.
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:42 AM
May 2013

I'd also lived in the midwest.

The SDS didn't appreciate my telling them what the rest of the country was like. They all thought it was like NYC and points north.

I'm afraid they found out I was right in fairly short order.

Notafraidtoo

(402 posts)
36. opposite for me.
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:18 AM
May 2013

Before the internet i had to rely on hyperbole from TV,Newspapers and magazines for my media now the Hyperbole hasn't gone away but the internet has a way of telling the truth and cutting through BS if you have a decent filter and check original sources which is 1000 times easier with the net.

In my youth i thought the world was more crazy cause of the hyperbole.

Now i not only think the world is less crazy then i had thought but i also think it is smarter then it was in the 80's and early 90's the opposite of what most people seem to think.

Donald Ian Rankin

(13,598 posts)
39. How many of you think you come over at *your* best on the internet?
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:06 AM
May 2013

I think that what the internet has demonstrated is mostly that people say really dumb things when they know there are no possible consequences.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
43. Had my suspicions, but didn't figure on them finding each other, which WWW access has accomplished.
Wed May 29, 2013, 06:11 AM
May 2013

I always knew there were crazies out there, but pre-Internet, they were isolated, and taken one at a time, they really stood out in an unflattering way. They were, after all, **crazy** by most standards (back then).

Unfortunately, the Internet has given lunatics a voice; Rove and the Kochs routinely take advantage of these very loose cannons, knowing cynically that they make the best water-carriers. They are tenacious as hell, they don't evolve on any position or learn from bitter experience, and they keep bouncing back.

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