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Business Insider ?@businessinsider 23mConsumers Are Thrilled, Economic Data Is Kicking Ass, And The Stock Market Is Going Wild http://read.bi/152QoX4
After wobbling last week, the Dow is surging another 190 points today. HUGE.
Second, consumers are really happy. The latest Consumer Conference Board consumer confidence index just destroyed expectations.
And it's not just that consumer number, all kinds of US numbers are beating lately.
Richmond Fed manufacturing beat this morning.
Case-Shiller home prices beat this morning.
read: http://www.businessinsider.com/consumers-are-thrilled-economic-data-is-kicking-ass-and-the-stock-market-is-going-wild-2013-5
JackN415
(924 posts)They need scandals diet to live. Or the sky is falling.
bigtree
(85,986 posts)TheObamaDiary.com ?@TheObamaDiary
How the GOP divide their time: pic.twitter.com/XQviE6YVJ2
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JackN415
(924 posts)I have my own modeling and my model has failed so far because it told me to get out in Feb. Which I did.
The market may be roaring until July... or who knows, it may keep on going and going (cue the drumming pink rabbit) ... for the greatest bull run ever in history.
But I believe at most a correction may happen soon and anyone get in at "the dip" will do well 6 months afterward. I'm bullish for the next couple years of world economy.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)Woe is their political fortune!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Where are the jobs?
Why has consumer debt and student loan debt gone out of sight?
How is it that hourly pay after graduating vocational/technical courses in 2-year programs have somehow surged ahead of what the average wage earner gets after post graduation from a 4 year degree program (and student loan debt)?
What kind of job growth has registered in this country for the under-or unemployed?
Why can't consumers get the same break on loan interests that banks do?
Why is our infrastructure at the point of such disrepair that it contributes to more and more road and bridge accidents?
Where did the high level manufacturing jobs go over the last 30 years and through what trade agreements?
Why can't the American public or their Representatives have the same information as corporations do in these emerging world trade agreements?
What percentage of the American worker can afford a single family home?
Why do over 440,000 Americans have no health insurance?
Why do one in five persons working have no vacation benefits?
Who thinks that any of this economic data-is-kicking-ass bullshit means anything for the future of Americans living, working their ass off and contributing way out of proportion to any corporation or high income (1%) earner?
Not, me, bigtree!
Kablooie
(18,625 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)That's the neo-liberal way: "I thought of you when you lost your job and prayed for you when you lost your home, just don't ask me to tax the rich."
forestpath
(3,102 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Your ration of chocolate went up, and victory gin is in the cupboard.
FirstLight
(13,359 posts)and contrary to popular belief here at DU, seeing things as they are doesn't make anyone an 'Obama Hater'...
Because personally, my economic state has nothing to do with how much I like the President. The fact remains that my income has not changed significantly in ten years, and I am back in school trying to get a BA so I can be more 'marketable' but the reality is that I am in my 40s and don't know if that's even possible anymore.
so those 'economic indicators' can go take a flying leap IMO
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)as soon as you realize that the US is now run by and for the hyper-rich, you'll stop worrying about jobs and such.
JackN415
(924 posts)It pains those who have long given up looking for work (which make the unemployment stat better looking than it should be), and I knew some of those people in pain: my relatives.
But we just have to hope that all these capital investments will eventually driving something. Companies get cash, hopefully they will gingerly start hiring people again.
Remember, Romney economic plan was that people would be exuberant to have a pro-business President, the stock market would go up; with plenty QE capital and "good feeling" (business confidence), companies would hire people and solve the ultimate problem: unemployment.
Things are moving in this direction. Except Mitt isn't in the White House.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)and, sure as anything, neo-futilism is WAY more stable than some of the relatives you "knew"...
Exen Trik
(103 posts)Repubs can't point to it and say Obama is screwing it up. That's about all it's good for: appearances.
marybourg
(12,609 posts)for the 25 years we've already been retired, and making it likely we'll be able to afford home or out of home help when we need it later on.
Pragdem
(233 posts)They judge the entirety of the economy on their personal situations only.
Kind of selfish, really.
fasttense
(17,301 posts)It's all your own lazy ass fault.
You didn't go to the right schools, even though you were lucky to afford any amount of schooling. You didn't pick rich parents like Bill Gates (and you didn't steal computer time from a local hospital - like Bill Gates). You were NOT willing to sell out friends and colleagues for profit. It's your own fault that firing people and stealing pension funds bothers you. Get over it, you're so selfish to think you matter. See, you are so unimportant, the whole American economy has recovered and left you behind. Even though 100 million employment age American adults have no jobs, it's just you who are the problem not the capitalist gone wild economy.
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)Should be removed.
Dash87
(3,220 posts)And yet Obama is supposedly bad for business. I guess not.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
reformist2
(9,841 posts)This is a somewhat dated chart, but pencil in the current number - 76 - and you'll see that consumers are not that confident.
Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Initech
(100,060 posts)And corporations still continue to stack billions overseas to avoid paying taxes.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I cannot celebrate trickle down economics. I know that the economy gaining strength will help more people. But the divide between the rich and poor is growing greater every day. A strong economy, in its current state, will put more food on the shelves at soup kitchens. It will not address why we have so many needing to use soup kitchens in the first place.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The other data is good news though.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)...when they retire, it's going to fall... a lot. Supply and demand, baby!
librechik
(30,674 posts)It's going to be tough for them to jump off the gloom-and-doom-Obama-made-this bus.
but they can comfort themselves that they never let the news stay in the mainstream that Bush made the recession. They did their jobs of lying, obfuscation and distraction.
bvar22
(39,909 posts)http://www.alternet.org/economy/real-numbers-half-america-poverty-and-its-creeping-toward-75-0
Wealth gap widens as labor's share of income falls
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/wealth-gap-widens-labors-share-income-falls-1B6097385
As the Economy Recovers, the Wealth Gap Widens
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/rick-newman/2013/03/11/as-the-economy-recovers-the-wealth-gap-widens
Top One Percent Captured 121 Percent Of All Income Gains
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/12/top-one-percent-income-gains_n_2670455.html
Corporate Profits Hit Record High While Worker Wages Hit Record Low
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/12/03/1270541/corporate-profits-wages-record/?mobile=nc
Things like THIS ^ do NOT happen by accident.
They are the direct results of Economic Policy.
The RICH and their employees in Washington have this "Jobless Recovery" thing down pat.
They know Just-What-to-Do.
...but we can't "begrudge them their wealth."
So WOOHOO for the RICH and their recovery.
Maybe they will let some crumbs trickle down on us poor slobs who have to work for a living.
[font color=firebrick][center]"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans.
I want a party that will STAND UP for Working Americans."
---Paul Wellstone [/font][/center]
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[font size=1]photo by bvar22
Shortly before Sen Wellstone was killed[/center][/font]
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, other than the stock market & corporate profits, things are not booming.