Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Agree OR Disagree! Republicans will enjoy the benefits of Obama care while vilifying it? (Original Post) Dawson Leery May 2013 OP
Since hypocrisy is their middle name, they will do all of this! CaliforniaPeggy May 2013 #1
Of course they will. Shrike47 May 2013 #2
I think this is a given. RevStPatrick May 2013 #3
When they find out the socialist bogeyman isn't gonna git 'em Warpy May 2013 #4
Absolutely no doubt about it. elleng May 2013 #5
Agree. The stupid drooling assholes don't have any ideas except those from Fox 'news'. AlinPA May 2013 #6
Hmmm...let me think... demwing May 2013 #7
Pardon my ignorance, but isn't the Congressional health plan muntrv May 2013 #8
Agree. They enjoy the benefits of S.S., Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, unemployment, public schools BlueCaliDem May 2013 #9
Republican individuals are NOT the draconian republican leaders graham4anything May 2013 #10
Well perhaps Republican individuals need to stop electing these leaders. Raine1967 May 2013 #13
24% becomes 50+% of the vote wins when only 40% of the people vote. graham4anything May 2013 #14
Not only that, they'll figure out a way to take credit for it tularetom May 2013 #11
*WILL*? They have been enjoying the benefits rights from the start. Raine1967 May 2013 #12
Yeah, they will; but they'll also just trot out more reasons to hate him Populist_Prole May 2013 #15
They do it with Medicare and Social Security. Arkana May 2013 #16
Frankly, I hope their irrational fear of death panels and doctors quitting mid-surgery... Pragdem May 2013 #17
They'll probably take credit for it too emulatorloo May 2013 #18
Both. Orsino May 2013 #19
Um, yeah. KamaAina May 2013 #20

Warpy

(111,228 posts)
4. When they find out the socialist bogeyman isn't gonna git 'em
Tue May 28, 2013, 03:36 PM
May 2013

they'll crow that the ideas were all theirs.

Later on, when problems show up and it needs a lot of work, they'll disown it again.

elleng

(130,838 posts)
5. Absolutely no doubt about it.
Tue May 28, 2013, 03:38 PM
May 2013

Unfortunately as informing an electorate that would rather not spend its time on factual matters and is highly subject to repug propaganda are heavy tasks, Dems will be perceived by many as underdogs (until next census???)

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
9. Agree. They enjoy the benefits of S.S., Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, unemployment, public schools
Tue May 28, 2013, 03:46 PM
May 2013

and good paying jobs . . . yet continue to vilify them or even claim that they're actually trying to strengthen them.

And the sheep keep voting for them.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
10. Republican individuals are NOT the draconian republican leaders
Tue May 28, 2013, 03:46 PM
May 2013

and of course, like Lincoln, President Obama is working to unite America, regardless of the congress,
so that 80-20 will be the course.

People themselves will love President Obama's health care (I personally have already saved $19,200 out of pocket as a self employed 100% thanks to President Obama's plan) and people are all of America.

That the extremists in office don't like it, well, easy enough in 2014 and 2016 to render them politically obsolete at the voting booth, if they don't change their tune because the people will see how great it is in California and how great it is in NY and everywhere else and want it for themselves.

imho

LBJ once said "If tomorrow I walked across the Potomac River, the press would say LBJ don't know how to swim".
Same holds true with President Obama.
Life could be 100% great for everyone, and 20% will always find something to complain about.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
13. Well perhaps Republican individuals need to stop electing these leaders.
Tue May 28, 2013, 04:03 PM
May 2013

and stop parroting the talking points.

Until then -- I would say they are complicit in the hypocrisy.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
14. 24% becomes 50+% of the vote wins when only 40% of the people vote.
Tue May 28, 2013, 04:13 PM
May 2013

Look at South Carolina

Colbert-Busch lost because only 33% of the people voted total.
So that the extremist Sanford who beat her, won by 7.
IMHO, every vote that could have shown up but didn't might have been the more than 7% to get her elected.

When people don't bother to vote, when people protest, when people for whatever do whatever,
that let's the extremist win

An extremist can not get 40%(let alone 50%) of 100%.
However, an extremist can win when only 30-40% of the total number win

(meaning-had in Wisconsin enough people came out and voted against Walker,
Walker never would have won...same in all the other states.

And it takes Democratic voters to 100% come out and vote straight democratic.
Legally, constitutionally, people can do what they want.

Raine1967

(11,589 posts)
12. *WILL*? They have been enjoying the benefits rights from the start.
Tue May 28, 2013, 04:01 PM
May 2013

I disagree with the word *will* as is has been happening right from the beginning -- and even before ACA was passed.

 

Pragdem

(233 posts)
17. Frankly, I hope their irrational fear of death panels and doctors quitting mid-surgery...
Tue May 28, 2013, 04:35 PM
May 2013

Will keep them from seeking treatment.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Agree OR Disagree! Repub...