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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:40 PM May 2013

When Clinton was impeached, it really didn't end up meaning anything.

He just kept on doing cool president-y kind of stuff 'til he left in '01.

Knowing that, why would the GOP bother trying to impeach Obama?

They know they'd never actually have the votes in Congress to remove him from office, and without that...what, in the end, is the point?

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MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
2. If they were rational, they wouldn't be Republicans.
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:45 PM
May 2013

So don't try to figure them out; you can't, and your brain will hurt.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
3. They just want to clog the plumbing
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:48 PM
May 2013

so nothing good for the 99% gets done. Clinton got even more popular after being impeached and it actually helped the Dems gain seats in the following midterms. Republicans always always overreach and always get their ears boxed sooner or later. Every time.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
4. The only thing it did was waste time and money.
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:49 PM
May 2013

That's all that would happen with Obama.

We don't need that dog and pony show.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
6. I don't think they really learned anything from the Clinton impeachment
Tue May 28, 2013, 11:54 PM
May 2013

Or the Hillary Benghazi hearings or the 2012 elections. Yep, call me captain obvious.

They've just made the Clintons more popular by their witch hunts. Apparently they don't really pay attention to popular culture (yes, obvious again). If they did they'd note that US citizens love the underdog and root for them against the "evil powers that be" (a.k.a the GOP in this case). I noticed Issa just served Sec. of State Kerry with a subpoena for documents on Benghazi. Dumb move. Keep it up Issa all the way to 2014 and 2016. You'll keep the GOP approval ratings down and Hillary's ratings up.

Archaic

(273 posts)
7. It gets them on TV, yelling at a person their constituents hate.
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:02 AM
May 2013

It creates income, speaking engagements, and the like.

It also runs out the clock even further. No appointments, no laws, no reform, nothing of use gets done during that time period. They own the daily news schedules every morning and every night.

It's spectacle, for an industry that craves spectacle.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
8. It's about money...
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:07 AM
May 2013

Their base hates Obama. Impeachment would get them all hot and bothered which will get them money for elections.

In the end, that's what this is about. Getting their base to part with their money.

Skittles

(153,122 posts)
9. it's red meat for their racist fans, Ken Burch
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:42 AM
May 2013

they truly think having a black man in the White House is *EGREGIOUS*, ya know?

niyad

(113,087 posts)
10. it serves as a wonderful distraction, keeping everyone's attention focused on a threat, or
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:21 AM
May 2013

an actual attempt at impeachment, which keeps a lot of people from seeing what they are really doing behind the smoke screen.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
11. It accomplished the marriage of the media to the corporate powers in this country.
Wed May 29, 2013, 03:10 AM
May 2013

Before the impeachment proceedings against Bubba were started, the media had been sort of complacent in previous years in disparaging Bubba's administration.
But, when the impeachment fever got going in the halls of the GOP, it quickly infected most of the radio and tv "stars" of the network news media.

Tom Brokaw led the way for NBC, saying that he had no doubt that Bubba would be impeached in the Senate, and that was before Christmas of 1998 when he was talking in a "matter of fact" manner about it on Dave Letterman's tv program.
Then, in 2000, Brokaw was one of the first network news anchors to agree with the Supreme Court's decision in December to place George Dubya in the White House in January.

After September of 2001, Brokaw repeated every single lie the Bush admin spewed about the attacks on September 11th, without commentary.
For his efforts, in 2002 Brokaw was rewarded with "the get", what they refer to in the news industry as "the big interview", when he was granted a very long and scripted interview with Dubya Bush as they strolled alongside each other walking in a park talking about the attacks on America on the 1st anniversary of 9/11.

In 2006, when the mid-term elections results were coming in, at the very moment when it was announced that John Tester had just been projected by NBC as the winner of the contested Senate seat held by Republican Conrad Burns in Montana -- effectively giving the Democrats control of the Senate for the first time in a dozen years -- Brokaw spun around in his chair looking for someone to talk to that could explain how that result happened, as he muttered, "There must be something wrong here" in to the microphone.
Brokaw said that twice before they cut off his mike.

What was wrong was the fact that Brokaw hadn't given a single Democrat a fair and unbiased news report for the previous 20 years!!

Dan Rather had already been disparaged for 10 years by the time Bubba was impeached by the rightwing echo chamber, led by Rush Limbaugh and repeated by every rightwing shit-slinging whackjob on the radio and cable tv.
Dan Rather was the most despised news reporter of the Republican party for over 35 years before Bubba's impeachment trial. Later, Rather paid the price for investigating George Dubya's military record in 2004 by being demoted, dismissed, and then fired by CBS for telling the truth about Bush.

Peter Jennings was dismissed as a casual observer of events by the rightwing GOP media machine, and he was never allowed to ever interview any of the major players because he had an annoying habit of asking them hard questions that had not been "pre-approved" by the person being interviewed. Jennings also asked for facts to back up their statements, and as we all know, Republicans hate having to use facts.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
12. it accomplished two things
Wed May 29, 2013, 06:43 AM
May 2013

one it kept clinton tied up agenda wise for at least a year. two it turned the media against gore and likely cost him the election. while clinton's numbers did go up, gore's went down to the point he was double digits down to bush when he announced his campaign.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
16. Would they be able to replicate that "success" however?
Wed May 29, 2013, 08:32 AM
May 2013

Neither President Obama nor Hillary have actually been directly accused of any specific wrongdoing-criminal or otherwise and all of the scandalmongering hasn't dented either of their poll numbers whether it's because people aren't paying attention or simply don't care.

And also, for as whacked out as the GOP was back in 2000, the current GOP has moved literally off the map since then.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
13. Angry confrontation makes the rebellious base feel like their GOP is doing its work in DC.
Wed May 29, 2013, 06:52 AM
May 2013

In the old days it was promises of no new taxes, that got people re-elected, now its endless faux outrage.



 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
14. But it did serve the essential purpose of keeping everyone from looking at what was actually
Wed May 29, 2013, 07:52 AM
May 2013

happening for years.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
15. When you've gained power by portraying the opposition as usurpers...
Wed May 29, 2013, 08:04 AM
May 2013

...and vile, thieving, traitorous scum ever-plotting to hand the country over to their Stalinist masters at the Kremlin (yes, they've cloud-sourced "the Kremlin" these days, but it's just a facelift of the old RW wingnut canard), then you have a duty to attack, attack, attack at every turn until the usurping traitorous vile bastard is out. QED

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