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Are_grits_groceries

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sounds wonderful. nt clarice May 2013 #1
+1, I have really good hearing. joshcryer Jun 2013 #59
I feel ya. nt clarice Jun 2013 #60
Hmmm. Presumably someone who is totally deaf would have no problem staying in there longer (nt) Nye Bevan May 2013 #2
I bet they would. Even deaf, you 'hear' vibrations, I would think. randome May 2013 #7
how come i can still hear rush's fat mouth!!! *covers ears* Takket May 2013 #3
Welcome to DU, Takket!!! ROFL!!! calimary May 2013 #28
Many people have been in it for longer than 45 minutes; people keep trying to break Brickbat May 2013 #4
The looks alone would cause nightmares. RC May 2013 #5
"anyone" ? So a deaf person couldn't do 46 minutes in that room? KurtNYC May 2013 #6
You must be the most patient person in the world. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #56
Thanks. Honestly I would have moved out 2 years ago but I have KurtNYC Jun 2013 #58
Maybe not the world's quietest, but I've been in a quiet room Brother Buzz May 2013 #8
Sometimes when I have built an "igloo" with my kids in my yard Nye Bevan May 2013 #9
Spray water on the surface then stand in the direct center for some giggles Brother Buzz May 2013 #10
I live in a rural area and some nights when everything is really Cleita May 2013 #11
During our big SoCal power failure a couple years ago MindPilot May 2013 #14
I have severe tinnitus and could live there with no problems, it wouldn't be quiet for me. nt Mnemosyne May 2013 #12
Same..... Pelican May 2013 #13
I suspect mine would get so loud it would damage the sound-absorbing material. n/t MindPilot May 2013 #15
.. Flying Squirrel May 2013 #42
interesting thread on tinnitus just posted Flying Squirrel May 2013 #39
me too, that ringing in the background DiverDave May 2013 #43
Stinks, doesn't it? No quiet ever. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #45
On a smaller scale I can understand. roamer65 Jun 2013 #47
The Nixon Tapes! Omg, you have my deepest sympathy! Seriously, my hearing is great, except for the Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #52
I honestly can't stand quiet for a long time.... Pelican Jun 2013 #48
I would almost kill to have these high-pitched, constantly changing tones out of my head. I'd settle Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #53
I don't think I'm at that level... Pelican Jun 2013 #54
I hope it eases for you in the future. It's definitely not pleasant at all. Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #55
I don't know. When I'm in a very quiet place the tinnitus is as maddening as the silence would be. hunter May 2013 #17
.. Flying Squirrel May 2013 #41
It's maddening much of the time for me. It seriously interferes with my hearing it is so loud. Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #51
Same. The place would be buzzing, just like everywhere else. Scuba May 2013 #20
check this out Flying Squirrel May 2013 #40
William Shatner almost committed suicide over it years ago. He now advocates for ATA.org. nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #46
interesting link for u Flying Squirrel May 2013 #38
Thanks Squirrel! nt Mnemosyne Jun 2013 #44
Interestig that total silence can drive people bonkers. dixiegrrrrl May 2013 #16
I'm sold...Guess I'll have to add my own kitchen and bath... Blue_Tires May 2013 #18
Torture, eh? To me, that's bliss. n/t LeftinOH May 2013 #19
I want to try it! n/t LadyHawkAZ May 2013 #21
But where's the satisfaction for the rest of us? No blood, no humiliation. no sound of Egalitarian Thug May 2013 #22
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The room is minus 9 decibels. Humans can detect sound at 0 decibels. Are_grits_groceries May 2013 #25
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Ok. Sorry. Are_grits_groceries May 2013 #35
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+1 nt arely staircase May 2013 #37
You're still not talking me out of it... Blue_Tires May 2013 #32
How much is the rent? Ikonoklast May 2013 #24
I actually worked in a room like that! MannyGoldstein May 2013 #26
Back when you could get onto NASA-JSC simply by knowing someone kentauros May 2013 #33
Yeah, that's what I was wondering...if you had an mp3 player and earphones and tunes... Tikki Jun 2013 #57
That was really fascinating. CrispyQ May 2013 #29
If it could get rid of tinnitus arikara May 2013 #30
What does it sound like if you hum or sing or whistle? Doremus May 2013 #31
You'll still hear the sound, kentauros May 2013 #34
that's where Mitt Romney goes Enrique Jun 2013 #49
Obviously those who have tried it didn't have a 2yr old child at home Major Nikon Jun 2013 #50
 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
1. sounds wonderful. nt
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:32 AM
May 2013

joshcryer

(62,536 posts)
59. +1, I have really good hearing.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:51 PM
Jun 2013

Sometimes I wish, no, would love for the sounds to just stop. Not in a "I want to be deaf" sort of way but more of a "I wish I could get a break from the noise" sort of way.

 

clarice

(5,504 posts)
60. I feel ya. nt
Tue Jun 4, 2013, 02:20 PM
Jun 2013

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. Hmmm. Presumably someone who is totally deaf would have no problem staying in there longer (nt)
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:33 AM
May 2013
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
7. I bet they would. Even deaf, you 'hear' vibrations, I would think.
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:38 AM
May 2013

If not in your ears, then the other bones in your body would be receptive.

Just speculation on my part.

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Takket

(23,715 posts)
3. how come i can still hear rush's fat mouth!!! *covers ears*
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:35 AM
May 2013

calimary

(90,021 posts)
28. Welcome to DU, Takket!!! ROFL!!!
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:49 PM
May 2013

Glad you're here! Especially with a post like this!

Brickbat

(19,339 posts)
4. Many people have been in it for longer than 45 minutes; people keep trying to break
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:36 AM
May 2013

the record. It's still remarkable.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
5. The looks alone would cause nightmares.
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:37 AM
May 2013

What about us hearing deficient people like me? Or an actual deaf person?

Give me something interesting to read and I will take a shot at this.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
6. "anyone" ? So a deaf person couldn't do 46 minutes in that room?
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:38 AM
May 2013

I want one of those because my neighbors are among the loudest people on earth. They run a grocery store and he is too proud to wear a hearing aid so he yells at everyone and makes them yell back. He has the front door adjusted so that it slams so hard it bounces off the jam and in the summer he has a screen door installed that does likewise. They have 8 huge compressors running 24/7 and two massive in wall air conditioners than make the whole building vibrate. When there is no one in the shop he and his wife yell at each other and whenever they feel like it they bring in their 2 neurotic springer spaniels that bark non-stop at everything.

LuvNewcastle

(17,821 posts)
56. You must be the most patient person in the world.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:56 PM
Jun 2013

Those people obviously have no respect for others.

KurtNYC

(14,549 posts)
58. Thanks. Honestly I would have moved out 2 years ago but I have
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:49 PM
Jun 2013

two large dogs (that I love dearly) and no other landlord will have us. And you're unfortunately correct about my neighbors' lack of respect for others; they kiss up to their customers and then talk trash about them once they leave the store.

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
8. Maybe not the world's quietest, but I've been in a quiet room
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:51 AM
May 2013

It was cool and relaxing. What was weird was the room I walked through to enter the quiet room. The anteroom had one wall sound dampened, while the opposite wall had a sound reflecting/enhancing surface; I had trouble maintaining my balance and walking straight until I adjusted.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
9. Sometimes when I have built an "igloo" with my kids in my yard
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:57 AM
May 2013

(really a hollowed-out snow pile) when I have squeezed myself into it, it has seemed like the quietest place I have ever been in. The snow walls seem to be absolutely deadening, acoustically. And when I yell, the yell just kind of dies. It's a weird feeling.

Brother Buzz

(39,900 posts)
10. Spray water on the surface then stand in the direct center for some giggles
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:09 PM
May 2013

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. I live in a rural area and some nights when everything is really
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:16 PM
May 2013

still and quiet, I can hear my blood flowing and something that's like white noise. It does drive you crazy. I have to put some noise on like music or streaming videos on my computer so I can fall asleep. As far as hallucinations, well that's fairly normal for me. I can distinguish the real from the unreal, so I know I'm not coo coo.

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
14. During our big SoCal power failure a couple years ago
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:34 PM
May 2013

Around midnight, I went outside and stood in the middle of the street just look at the emptiness. (I live in the city) It was completely dark, completely quiet. A very unusual experience.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
12. I have severe tinnitus and could live there with no problems, it wouldn't be quiet for me. nt
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:27 PM
May 2013
 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
13. Same.....
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:31 PM
May 2013

*wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii*

 

MindPilot

(12,693 posts)
15. I suspect mine would get so loud it would damage the sound-absorbing material. n/t
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:36 PM
May 2013
 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
39. interesting thread on tinnitus just posted
Thu May 30, 2013, 06:08 AM
May 2013

DiverDave

(5,245 posts)
43. me too, that ringing in the background
Thu May 30, 2013, 06:23 AM
May 2013

I sorta just tune it out, but when its quiet, it becomes really noticeable.
Been getting worse the last couple of years.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
45. Stinks, doesn't it? No quiet ever. nt
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:05 AM
Jun 2013

roamer65

(37,953 posts)
47. On a smaller scale I can understand.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jun 2013

My ears aren't the greatest and seems to come and go for me, depends a lot how bad my sinuses are that day. I'm sure my TMJD doesn't help either. Today is like an audio tape with a slight high pitched ringing in the background, a lighter version of the Nixon tapes in a way.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
52. The Nixon Tapes! Omg, you have my deepest sympathy! Seriously, my hearing is great, except for the
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:31 AM
Jun 2013

interference from the high-pitched tones I cannot stop in my head. I've had hearing tests many times, there is no hearing loss.

Frustrating, to say the least!

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
48. I honestly can't stand quiet for a long time....
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jun 2013

That could be a result of the tinnitus but I dunno...

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
53. I would almost kill to have these high-pitched, constantly changing tones out of my head. I'd settle
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:35 AM
Jun 2013

for something that made it sound like music, as long as it wasn't country music!

Luckily, I am non-violent.

 

Pelican

(1,156 posts)
54. I don't think I'm at that level...
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:38 AM
Jun 2013

But... I've usually got an earbud in or music playing... probably country music...

It's the real stillness when I can hear the loud whine, otherwise it's background noise I forget about 90% of the time.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
55. I hope it eases for you in the future. It's definitely not pleasant at all.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jun 2013

I can barely stand to listen to music anymore. Something about the tones in my head mixing with music makes it physically uncomfortable to hear. I miss it much.

hunter

(40,691 posts)
17. I don't know. When I'm in a very quiet place the tinnitus is as maddening as the silence would be.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:46 PM
May 2013

I'm pretty sure I got the tinnitus from anti-depressants and antibiotics I've taken, exacerbated by loud noises (not rock concerts, but BANGS and BOOMS!) I was exposed to as a young man.

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
51. It's maddening much of the time for me. It seriously interferes with my hearing it is so loud.
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:26 AM
Jun 2013

People keep telling me to just get a hearing aid. There is nothing wrong with my hearing, other than the freaking noise drowning it out! It is hard for someone that hasn't experienced to understand.

Mine is from some nasty medications years ago and also loud music when I was young.

Weird, when I was able to use a regular PC, it actually quieted down while I worked, but now I am using an Ipad, because regular internet here is extremely expensive, and it does not quiet with it at all. Just a strange observation of what I've experienced.



 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
20. Same. The place would be buzzing, just like everywhere else.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:51 PM
May 2013
 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
40. check this out
Thu May 30, 2013, 06:09 AM
May 2013

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
46. William Shatner almost committed suicide over it years ago. He now advocates for ATA.org. nt
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:16 AM
Jun 2013
 

Flying Squirrel

(3,041 posts)
38. interesting link for u
Thu May 30, 2013, 06:06 AM
May 2013

Mnemosyne

(21,363 posts)
44. Thanks Squirrel! nt
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:01 AM
Jun 2013

dixiegrrrrl

(60,161 posts)
16. Interestig that total silence can drive people bonkers.
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:42 PM
May 2013

and at the same time, the IDEA of so much silence seems like a desireable thing.

I had long noticed that many people who are alone in their house have a tv or radio on "for company"., some even sleep with tv on.

 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
18. I'm sold...Guess I'll have to add my own kitchen and bath...
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:48 PM
May 2013

How much per month, and when can I move in??

LeftinOH

(5,648 posts)
19. Torture, eh? To me, that's bliss. n/t
Wed May 29, 2013, 12:51 PM
May 2013

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
21. I want to try it! n/t
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:01 PM
May 2013
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
22. But where's the satisfaction for the rest of us? No blood, no humiliation. no sound of
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:28 PM
May 2013

or the visceral reaction to bones being snapped. I suppose you would eventually get a few screams, but that's hardly worth the effort.

Why do you hate America?

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Are_grits_groceries

(17,139 posts)
25. The room is minus 9 decibels. Humans can detect sound at 0 decibels.
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:39 PM
May 2013

More info:
<snip>
According to Minnesota Public Radio, the typical quiet room — such as your bedroom late at night — has an ambient noise level of about 30 decibels, caused by the rustling of sheets, the hum of the air conditioner, and similar sources of white noise. Orfield’s anechoic chamber has a noise level of -9 decibels — yes, negative nine. According to Guinness World Records, it is the world’s quietest room. The silence-producing design, according to the Deccan Chronicle and seen above, features a “trampoline”-like mesh floor, which prevents sounds from reflecting off of it; and walls with one meter-long pieces of soundproofing protruding outward, which absorb sound.

A trip inside may seem like a get-away from the tribulations of the rest of the world, but as Orfield Laboratories President Steve Orfield notes, nothing could be further from the truth. He explained why to Minnesota Public Radio: “When you sit in any rooms a person normally sits in, you hear the sound and all its reflections. When you go into an anechoic chamber, there are zero reflections. So if you listen to me talk and hear my voice, you’re hearing my voice exactly. And if I turn around and talk, the only thing you’ll hear is the sound bending around my head.” The body adapts to the massive sensory deprivation by finding whatever it can latch onto — even its own noises. Quite literally, the mind starts focusing on the sounds of one’s own heart beating and lungs expanding. It is enough to drive almost all people to hallucinate.
<snip>
http://nowiknow.com/the-sound-of-silence/

I don't believe anybody who hasn't been in an anechoic room can truly understand. What we think of quiet is ~ +39 decibels. This room is well below what we normally experience.
You get no echoes or any other normal refractions of sound. I can imagine that it would do a number on your senses.
I have no doubt that people experience it and react somewhat differently. I also think many are minimizing the affects it could have. I believe that's because we truly cannot imagine what minus 9 decibels really means. It means no sound period not even minor background noise.

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Are_grits_groceries

(17,139 posts)
35. Ok. Sorry.
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:05 PM
May 2013

Hard to tell sometimes.

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arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
37. +1 nt
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:13 PM
May 2013
 

Blue_Tires

(57,596 posts)
32. You're still not talking me out of it...
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:00 PM
May 2013

That may be the only place in the world I could find temporary peace...

If nothing else, I'll be able to listen clearly and converse with the demons in my head...Maybe we'll all be able to finally come to an understanding...

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
24. How much is the rent?
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:30 PM
May 2013

I'd give them a record to shoot for, just let me bring my books.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
26. I actually worked in a room like that!
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:48 PM
May 2013

Last edited Wed May 29, 2013, 05:33 PM - Edit history (1)

Foam cones and all. Used for audio testing.

I could hear my blood pump, as well as a very faint high-pitched whine.


It definitely sucked to work in, until I brought a cassette player (1980s). But I think I could go more than 45 min.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
33. Back when you could get onto NASA-JSC simply by knowing someone
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:00 PM
May 2013

a friend and I got to go into their anechoic chamber. They had us stand back to back and talk to each other, but we could never hear anything but our own voices

I would think that those people that are experts at meditation would have no trouble staying in such a room for more than 45 minutes, though. Talk about a still-point!

Tikki

(15,140 posts)
57. Yeah, that's what I was wondering...if you had an mp3 player and earphones and tunes...
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:04 PM
Jun 2013

it probably wouldn't be such a deadening experience.


Tikki

CrispyQ

(40,970 posts)
29. That was really fascinating.
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:52 PM
May 2013

Thanks for posting.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
30. If it could get rid of tinnitus
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:54 PM
May 2013

I would sure be willing to try. I think the decor would drive me nuts though.

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Doremus

(7,273 posts)
31. What does it sound like if you hum or sing or whistle?
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:58 PM
May 2013

Cause I'd do one or all of those things if the quiet was so maddening. I'd like to try it.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
34. You'll still hear the sound,
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:02 PM
May 2013

but it won't bounce off of the surfaces. So, no reverberation, no echoing. It gives sound a rather "soft" feel to it

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
49. that's where Mitt Romney goes
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:20 AM
Jun 2013

when he wants to discuss income inequality.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
50. Obviously those who have tried it didn't have a 2yr old child at home
Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:26 AM
Jun 2013

Looks more like it could be used for therapy.

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