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kimbutgar

(21,040 posts)
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:27 PM May 2013

How is it that the Heritage Foundation under it's 501(c)3 is a tax exempt business?

This is a load of bunk. In California if you make a donation 100% of it is considered a tax free donation. I repeat 100% of your gift may be deducted under Federal and State Income taxes.

This is an abuse of our tax code. There is nothing charitable that the Heritage Foundation does that to help regular people. They say they are "a research and educational institute - a think tank- whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values and a strong national defense".

All I see if they are promoting the dismantling our safety nets, destroying local governments via the tax bases , letting corporations abuse their employees by deregulating thelaws that might cost their corporate toads money. Advocating for taking away women's reproductive rights and endless wars. This is outrageous and the fact they pay Jim Demented 5 Million dollars is appalling.

Got another one of those mailers and read their dribble I needed to take a trip to the bathroom after reading it. And don't get me started on this individual freedom bs. Anytime I hear someone say it I want to scream!!!!

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How is it that the Heritage Foundation under it's 501(c)3 is a tax exempt business? (Original Post) kimbutgar May 2013 OP
Dunno. elleng May 2013 #1
I suspect they're using the educational section. Flimsy at best. SlimJimmy May 2013 #3
But they invented Obamacare ErikJ May 2013 #13
they claim to be "educational" hfojvt May 2013 #2
Al Capp beat them to it. hay rick May 2013 #27
I don't really understand the in's and out's 1KansasDem May 2013 #4
It's all in the definition of political activity... Jeff In Milwaukee May 2013 #5
They just crawled (walked upright, actually) through a loophole SoCalDem May 2013 #10
Folks at the IRS want to keep their jobs. hay rick May 2013 #30
K&R YES! Isoldeblue May 2013 #6
My first thoughts too. All those right wing think tanks funded by the Cleita May 2013 #7
A .org in a domain name is not necessarily a tax exempt. dumbcat May 2013 #20
Really? Then DU should be able to use .org. n/t Cleita May 2013 #26
Why would it want to? former9thward May 2013 #28
While they probably aren't breaking the law, I think it is ironic. Starry Messenger May 2013 #8
The ONLY tax exemptions should go to REAL churches/charities SoCalDem May 2013 #9
Serious questions have been raised about them in the past starroute May 2013 #11
Media Matters is a 501(c)3 also ErikJ May 2013 #12
The Center for American Progress is classified as a 501(c)(3) hack89 May 2013 #14
Its what they advocate for is the difference ErikJ May 2013 #15
So you want the IRS use partisan political criteria hack89 May 2013 #16
"POLE"-itically neutral is impossible. ErikJ May 2013 #17
So each incoming administration simply applies its own political bias to the process? hack89 May 2013 #21
Democratic platform advocates for social welfare - GOP not so much. ErikJ May 2013 #24
The IRS has a far different definition of "social welfare" than you do. former9thward May 2013 #29
If the HF qualifies then every business in America should qualify. ErikJ May 2013 #31
Most businesses want to make a profit. former9thward May 2013 #32
One small thing.. X_Digger May 2013 #33
We are talking about 501cs former9thward May 2013 #34
True, but all "non-profits" make profit. (If they survive, I suppose.) X_Digger May 2013 #35
Do they have politicans from the Left on their payroll Rex May 2013 #19
It's first president was President Clinton's former chief of staff John Podesta hack89 May 2013 #22
Okay I stand corrected then, they are the opposite of the HF. Rex May 2013 #23
Got me, they've had more people working directly with the GOP Rex May 2013 #18
Do you want a real answer, or do you just want to vent? brooklynite May 2013 #25

elleng

(130,714 posts)
1. Dunno.
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:31 PM
May 2013

501(c)(3) — Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations
501(c)(4) — Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
3. I suspect they're using the educational section. Flimsy at best.
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:05 PM
May 2013
501(c)(3) — Religious, Educational, Charitable, Scientific, Literary, Testing for Public Safety, to Foster National or International Amateur Sports Competition, or Prevention of Cruelty to Children or Animals Organizations
501(c)(4) — Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees
 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
13. But they invented Obamacare
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:06 PM
May 2013

In 1993 as an alternative to Hillarycare they came up with the core concept of Romney and Obamacare, the health insurance mandate.
We might have Single Payer now if it werent for them.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
2. they claim to be "educational"
Wed May 29, 2013, 01:36 PM
May 2013

they are trying to teach the country that what's good for the rich is good for America.

1KansasDem

(251 posts)
4. I don't really understand the in's and out's
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:16 PM
May 2013

of 501 c3's and 501 c4's.
Media Matters and Moveon are both c3's. The DLC(no longer in business) and Organizing For America are c4's.
Even though they're on my side, I don't understand how they meet the standard of not being political.

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
5. It's all in the definition of political activity...
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:38 PM
May 2013

If I say "Vote For Jones" then I'm engaging in partisan political activity. If I publish a slew of articles that agrees with Jones' position on the major issues and without any direct input from the Jones campaign, then I'm being merely educational. Issues advocacy, as long as it doesn't name any specific candidate, party or ballot initiative, is not considered political activity.

Edit: Should point out that a small amount of non-partisan political activity is allowed. Some non-profit organizations sponsor "Lobby Day" events when members and other concerned persons go to the state capitol to lobby legislators on a particular area of interest. As long as this event represents a reasonably small amount of the groups activities, it's usually allowable.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
10. They just crawled (walked upright, actually) through a loophole
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:59 PM
May 2013

It;s tax-evasion, no matter who does it

hay rick

(7,584 posts)
30. Folks at the IRS want to keep their jobs.
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:20 PM
May 2013

They have the authority to enforce a stricter standard, but not the will. All of the Republicans, the administration, and many other Democrats are beholden to rich, anonymous donors. Money talks, principle walks.

Bill Moyers weighs in here: http://billmoyers.com/2013/05/22/six-facts-lost-in-the-irs-scandal/

Of the more than $256 million spent by social welfare nonprofits on ads in the 2012 elections, at least 80 percent came from conservative groups, according to FEC figures tallied by the Center for Responsive Politics.

None came from the Tea Party groups with applications flagged by the IRS. Instead, a few big conservative groups were largely responsible.

Crossroads GPS, which this week said it believes it is among the conservative groups “targeted” by the IRS, spent more than $70 million in federal races in 2012. Americans for Prosperity, the social welfare nonprofit launched by the conservative billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, spent more than $36 million. American Future Fund spent more than $25 million. Americans for Tax Reform spent almost $16 million. American Action Network spent almost $12 million.

Besides Crossroads GPS, each of those groups has applied to the IRS and been recognized as tax-exempt. (You can look at their applications here.)

Bottom line: the Republicans stand to benefit from non-enforcement. Ditto Third-Way Democrats. Of the 72 Tea Party Groups who had their 501c4 applications held up for further scrutiny, zero were denied the exemption. The Moyer article also documents how many of the applying groups simply lie about the nature of their activities. The administration turns a blind eye...

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
7. My first thoughts too. All those right wing think tanks funded by the
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:42 PM
May 2013

Koch brothers et al have a .org on their websites which means they are claiming tax free exemptions like a charity. I say it's time for the IRS to investigate. I believe a lot of this hoopla is a preemptive strike by them so that they are not investigated by the IRS.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
20. A .org in a domain name is not necessarily a tax exempt.
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:50 PM
May 2013

Used to be, but:

The domain name org is a generic top-level domain (gTLD) of the Domain Name System (DNS) used in the Internet. The name is truncated from organization. It was one of the original domains established in 1985 and operated by the Public Interest Registry since 1988. The domain extension was originally created for non-profits, but today it is commonly used by schools, open-source projects, communities, and for-profit entities. The number of registered .org domains have increased from less than one million in the 1990s, to ten million as of June, 2012.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.org

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
8. While they probably aren't breaking the law, I think it is ironic.
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:44 PM
May 2013

These guys always screech limited government while using government structures to exist in. Hypocrites.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
9. The ONLY tax exemptions should go to REAL churches/charities
Wed May 29, 2013, 02:57 PM
May 2013

brick & mortar churches that minister to the poor..The pastors/reverends/priests/whatever are being paid a WAGE and they should pay taxes on that wage.

Churches need to render to Caesar.

Donations to ANY organization that is even remotely political should be taxed.
Exemptions should only be given to organizations that promote the well-being of the planet and its poor.

Exemptions are for TRUE charities and do-gooders.. If republicans cannot qualify, they need to rejigger their though/policy process.

Want to hold a fancy ball to auction off that million dollar art piece? Pay for the damned party and donate the proceeds.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. Serious questions have been raised about them in the past
Wed May 29, 2013, 03:48 PM
May 2013

I know there were questions in the late 90's about their Hong Kong office trying to drum up business opportunities preceding the Chinese takeover. And I found this in my files from 2005:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A59539-2005Apr16.html

Think Tank's Ideas Shifted As Malaysia Ties Grew
Business Interests Overlapped Policy

By Thomas B. Edsall
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, April 17, 2005; Page A01

For years, the Heritage Foundation sharply criticized the autocratic rule of former Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad, denouncing his anti-Semitism, his jailing of political opponents and his "anti-free market currency controls."

Then, late in the summer of 2001, the conservative nonprofit Washington think tank began to change its assessment: Heritage financed an Aug. 30-Sept. 4, 2001, trip to Malaysia for three House members and their spouses. Heritage put on briefings for the congressional delegation titled "Malaysia: Standing Up for Democracy" and "U.S. and Malaysia: Ways to Cooperate in Order to Influence Peace and Stability in Southeast Asia."

Heritage's new, pro-Malaysian outlook emerged at the same time a Hong Kong consulting firm co-founded by Edwin J. Feulner, Heritage's president, began representing Malaysian business interests. The for-profit firm, called Belle Haven Consultants, retains Feulner's wife, Linda Feulner, as a "senior adviser." And Belle Haven's chief operating officer, Ken Sheffer, is the former head of Heritage's Asia office and is still on Heritage's payroll as a $75,000-a-year consultant.

On Sept. 27, 2001, Belle Haven hired Alexander Strategy Group, a Washington lobby firm run by Edwin A. Buckham, a former chief of staff to House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.), to help represent Malaysian clients. Linda Feulner works as a consultant for Alexander Strategy Group as well as for Belle Haven. Experts say that the relationship between one of Washington's most influential conservative think tanks and a network of lobbying firms collecting fees from Malaysian business interests -- well in excess of $1 million over two years -- could pose a problem for Heritage's tax status as a nonprofit group. The fees were disclosed in reports filed with Congress and the Justice Department.

(On edit -- more details here: http://dccc.org/blog/entry/heritage/)

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
12. Media Matters is a 501(c)3 also
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:02 PM
May 2013

But I think their primary purpose is to expose and correct the lies of the media which I would think is educational.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
14. The Center for American Progress is classified as a 501(c)(3)
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:21 PM
May 2013

it is a liberal counterpart to the Heritage Foundation.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
15. Its what they advocate for is the difference
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:31 PM
May 2013

Heritage Foundation primary goal to help the 1% vs CFAP goal to help the 99%.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. So you want the IRS use partisan political criteria
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:33 PM
May 2013

when determining tax exempt status? Or shall they be politically neutral?

hack89

(39,171 posts)
21. So each incoming administration simply applies its own political bias to the process?
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:56 PM
May 2013

Republican administrations deny liberal groups and Democratic administrations deny conservative groups?

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
24. Democratic platform advocates for social welfare - GOP not so much.
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:10 PM
May 2013

Last edited Wed May 29, 2013, 07:25 PM - Edit history (1)

In fact the GOP platform is for REDUCING social welfare in government.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
33. One small thing..
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:49 PM
May 2013

Businesses can be a "non-profit" and make profit.

"Non-profit" is a bit of a misnomer. They're more properly called a 'non-stock corporation'-- meaning that the profits accrue to the company, not to a shareholder.

former9thward

(31,930 posts)
34. We are talking about 501cs
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:06 PM
May 2013

If you are designed as a 501c you are subject to audit by the IRS to determine if you are actually a non-profit. No business, share or not share, would want that burden.

X_Digger

(18,585 posts)
35. True, but all "non-profits" make profit. (If they survive, I suppose.)
Wed May 29, 2013, 11:14 PM
May 2013

The designation of 501(C)(X) is not dependent on not making profit. That's a common misperception.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Do they have politicans from the Left on their payroll
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:40 PM
May 2013

hardly the counterpart to the group that helped steal the 2000 election.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
22. It's first president was President Clinton's former chief of staff John Podesta
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:00 PM
May 2013

It's present President, Neera Tanden, worked for the Michael Dukakis, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Obama campaigns.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
23. Okay I stand corrected then, they are the opposite of the HF.
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:07 PM
May 2013

You need to be that deep into politics to compare to the HF imo.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
18. Got me, they've had more people working directly with the GOP
Wed May 29, 2013, 04:39 PM
May 2013

than Foxnews! It is a political think tank for the GOP. How indeed!

brooklynite

(94,311 posts)
25. Do you want a real answer, or do you just want to vent?
Wed May 29, 2013, 05:16 PM
May 2013

There is no requirement that a 501(C)(3) "help real people". The might be a meritorius goal, but its not what the tax code says. The Heritage Foundation does policy research, and thus fills an educational purpose, which you can choose to accept or reject. As for "dismantling our safety nets, destroying local governments via the tax bases , letting corporations abuse their employees by deregulating thelaws that might cost their corporate toads money. Advocating for taking away women's reproductive rights and endless wars.", we can agree that those are not worthy goals, but they are not wrong LEGALLY. As long as Heritage doesn't step over the line of lobbying for policies or candidates, the way to fight their ideas is with ideas of our own.

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