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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed May 29, 2013, 07:28 PM May 2013

Why James Rosen Is Not Blameless

Why James Rosen Is Not Blameless

The Justice Department should not be chasing national security reporters. But those reporters have a responsibility, too.

By Fred Kaplan

As Eric Holder wrings his hands in remorse over his feverish pursuit of Fox News reporter James Rosen’s phone records, it’s worth noting that, when it comes to national security leaks, some things are secret—and should be kept that way—for a reason.

In Rosen’s case, the alarm bells went off not because he reported that North Korea was about to conduct a nuclear-weapons test but because he reported that the CIA learned of this fact from a source inside North Korea. In other words, Rosen revealed that the CIA had a source inside North Korea. It’s unclear whether the source was a human spy or a communications intercept; it’s also irrelevant because, thanks to this story, the source is probably no longer alive or active.

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It may seem odd for someone who has been reporting on national security matters for a few decades to say this, but just because the government is doing something in secret—and just because a leaker tells someone like me about it—that doesn’t necessarily mean it should see the light of day. That is especially so if the secret activity in question doesn’t break laws, expose deceit, kill people, violate basic decency, or … (feel free to add to this list).

Serious journalists, even the most doggedly determined ones, have known this for a long time. That also isn’t to say that they should, or do, brood routinely over the consequences of their scoops; but some limits are obvious. For instance, it’s well known that the New York Times and other publications excised the names of certain people from WikiLeaks documents, especially foreign sources and translators, to keep them from being killed by Iraqi or Afghan insurgents.

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http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2013/05/james_rosen_and_the_justice_department_leak_investigation_the_fox_news_reporter.html

CNN: DOJ Has Proof It Alerted News Corp. Of Rosen Subpoena
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022918692

CONFIRMED: Fox News Hack James Rosen Is A Political Operative, Not A Journalist
http://sync.democraticunderground.com/10022897356


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Why James Rosen Is Not Blameless (Original Post) ProSense May 2013 OP
Home Truths, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2013 #1
His actions were deliberate ProSense May 2013 #2
I Tend To Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2013 #3
K&R "Reporters".. "Political Operatives" I bet Rosen has snerk smirk when he Cha May 2013 #4
The media's defense of a Fox hack was shameless. ProSense May 2013 #6
K & R Scurrilous May 2013 #5
K&R! Thank you ProSense for keeping on this and exposing this Rosen for what he is! hrmjustin May 2013 #7
Thanks n/t ProSense May 2013 #9
This form of TSSCI is HUMINT. Very obviously. DevonRex May 2013 #8
Rosen is a hack. n/t ProSense May 2013 #10
In the same league as Wikileaks question everything May 2013 #11

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
2. His actions were deliberate
Wed May 29, 2013, 07:47 PM
May 2013

and publishing the information intentional, and none of it for good. Only to create a political headache and feed the RW frenzy of attacks on this administation.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
4. K&R "Reporters".. "Political Operatives" I bet Rosen has snerk smirk when he
Wed May 29, 2013, 07:51 PM
May 2013

sees he's called a reporter.

How do we know Eric Holder is "wringing his hands in remorse"?

thanks ProSense

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. The media's defense of a Fox hack was shameless.
Wed May 29, 2013, 09:22 PM
May 2013

They're now trying to make this about Holder, hiding behind the shield law meeting.

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
8. This form of TSSCI is HUMINT. Very obviously.
Wed May 29, 2013, 10:03 PM
May 2013

Revealing it gets people killed. Despite the lack of specific detail, some things should be glaringly obvious at least to those who have worked in and around this field. And we have quite a few here on DU. Most people could figure this out but for those who don't want to take the time, the very subject matter eliminates other source options. Additionally, the subject matter narrows the possible source to an extremely small group of people. After that it's only a matter of time - very short time.

I have reason to respect our intelligence community, especially those who actually put their lives on the line - knowing they cannot be extricated. Once again we have a "reporter" who decided that the life of another human being wasn't important. That the security of the United States and South Korea is not important. My son lives in Seoul. I would spit in James Rosen's face if I saw him on the street. Fuck him. Just fuck him to hell.



question everything

(47,470 posts)
11. In the same league as Wikileaks
Thu May 30, 2013, 04:17 PM
May 2013

With both of them, the alarm is not so much the material leaked, but the danger to allies inside not-so-friendly countries.

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