Fox contributor: Liberals who reject that men should dominate women are anti-science

[kpete]

“I’m so used to liberals telling conservatives that they’re anti-science,” Erickson explained. “But liberals who defend this and say it is not a bad thing are very anti-science. When you look at biology, when you look at the natural world, the roles of a male and a female in society and in other animals, the male typically is the dominant role. The female, it’s not antithesis, or it’s not competing, it’s a complimentary role.”

“We as people in a smart society have lost the ability to have complimentary relationships in nuclear families, and it is tearing us apart,” he continued, adding that “reality showed” it was harmful for women to be the primary source of income in a family.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/29/fox-contributor-liberals-who-reject-that-men-should-dominate-women-are-anti-science/

I added this graph for Erickson:

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/29/breadwinner-moms/

[Drale]

1. I've come to terms with the fact that "Conservatives"

have no idea what so ever what science is, so its hard to blame them when they use the word wrong.

[AsahinaKimi]

46. I would love to use the term

"Neanderthal" but it would be an insult to smart hunter gatherers.



I WOULD LOVE to see Republicans try to take down a woolly mammoth, just using spears.

[Sheldon Cooper]

2. If one role is dominant, then there is no 'complimentary' role.

You have equals who actually are complimentary, or you have dominant and subordinate. You can't have dominant and complimentary, you ass.

[kentauros]

8. I noticed that, too.

Also, republicans reject the idea that humans are animals or part of the animal kingdom. Using biology then to support dominance of males over females doesn't apply. We're either animals subject to the rules and roles in biological systems, or we're above it as they like to say. You can't have it both ways.

[Ikonoklast]

40. This is part of evolutionary biology.

Erickson uses something he doesn't believe in to support his thesis.


Proves he's just in to make money off of the Rubes.

[kentauros]

43. You're right.

We need to float a Theory of Devolution for the replublicans. I bet they'd embrace it, too

[Ikonoklast]

48. Ha! I would love to see their new party slogan for 2016!

"Are We Not Men?"

[kentauros]

49. Ha!

There are a few former co-workers I'd love to send that to (if only I had bothered to remember their email addresses.)

[Jim__]

21. I realize the article said "complimentary", but I think it meant "complementary."

[siligut]

39. Yes, that is what he meant

Probably believing it too.

[Sophiegirl]

28. I think he meant submissive

But was confused about the definition of complementary. They ARE anti-education, you know.

[edhopper]

3. So the party that denies evolution

believes we should only behave according to our primal nature.

BTW asshole Erickson; the gathering of the hunter/gatherers was probably done by woman, keeping the family alive while the men occasional brought in game. They were the main breadwinners.

[awoke_in_2003]

64. And in lion packs...

which sex tends to kill the supper? Male lions are primarily for territory control.

[demwing]

4. Ahem...

spiders
spotted hyena
preying mantis
bees
ants
ring-tailed lemur

Matriarchal species, just as a beginning

[riderinthestorm]

62. Yup, also add lions, horses, elephants, meerkats, and Bonobos to the matriachal society list. nt

[demwing]

63. seems like female lions keep a male around

For two reasons - sex and..uhm...more sex?

[sinkingfeeling]

5. Oh, I see. It's 'natural' for women to be inferior.

[woodsprite]

6. How very "lion-like" of them.

With lions, isn't the male a big mooch (he wants sex with multiple partners, wants the kids kept out of the way, has pissing contests and makes a lot of noise) and the female the one that does all the work and is the primary source of income (hunting) in the pride.

The science I prefer is that people be like Canada geese (and other species) - mate for life and have an equal share in raising the goslings, then fly off into the sunset OK -- minus the crapping all over the place.

[FSogol]

37. You were doing great until that last line.

[liberal_at_heart]

7. so whomever earns the most gets to dominate the other?

Once again they prove they are living in the 1950's.

[kentauros]

9. He proved they're still living in the 1950s simply by the use of the term

"nuclear families." Who else uses that antiquated term any more, except when speaking of the 1950s?

[Just Saying]

11. Did he say it like W too?

Nuke-u-ler lol

[kentauros]

12. I have no idea,

as I don't watch Fox "news". I would guess that he didn't pronounce it correctly, as most people don't articulate their words to begin with.

[ProSense]

10. Truth, Justice and

"ox contributor: Liberals who reject that men should dominate women are anti-science"

...the American Way. We need Fox!

Fox Guest Tony Katz: "There's No Such Thing As Income Inequality," Teachers Exist Off "Excesses" Of Stockbrokers, Capitalists
http://mediamatters.org/video/2011/11/20/fox-guest-tony-katz-theres-no-such-thing-as-inc/182230

[ruffburr]

13. Ladies I have a Question-

How do morons like Erickson et al, Ever get laid? And might i suggest that the ones that "do" these kinda dorks, Just say NO from now on What a asshat!!!!

[11 Bravo]

14. I have noticed that monkeys sometimes play with their own, shit and fling it mindlessly.

I suppose that scientifically explains conservatives in general, and Erik Erickson in particular.

[liberal_at_heart]

17. I can't wait to see what the Jon Stewart show and Colbert Report do with this one.

[kentauros]

44. But the real question to ask here is:

Is Erickson the monkey or the shit?

[JitterbugPerfume]

15. This penis envy is making me so neurotic.....

NOT!!

[Yavin4]

16. And they wonder why women don't vote for Republicans n/t

[pokerfan]

18. “Having mom as primary bread winner is bad for kids and bad for marriage.”

Wow.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/foxs-erick-erickson-its-anti-science-to-not-believe-men-should-dominate-women/

[Initech]

19. How dare they say we are the anti science party!!!!

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They believe the earth is 6,000 years old, reject theories of evolution, prefer to teach abstinence over sexual education, claim women's bodies can reject rape, and they have the balls to call us anti science??? Fuck them!

[liberal_at_heart]

23. don't forget women's bodies can reject rape sperm and our uteruses are littered with dozens of

dead fetuses because we use birth control.

[Initech]

38. It takes some serious cojones to be that moronic.

While searching for a Youtube video I came across an old New Rule that I think applies here:

[SoCalDem]

20. When a significant number of men "lost" the ability to provide the single breadwinner income

thanks to union-busting/outsourcing/downsizing, many women HAD to fill the gap in family income.

Do they really want MORE poor families?

There are probably MANY women who would LOVE to take 5-10 years "off" so they could see those first steps, read those books to their kids, go on fun outings with the kids whenever the spirit moved them, be a home-room Mom, go on school field trips with the kids, cook nutritious meals for their families, take a nap when the kids do, etc, but they CANNOT because that income is NEEDED to keep a roof over their heads.

there are many more single Moms than before because once women were in the workforce, and started making enough to support a family, maybe they decided to go it alone.. It's a choice women did not have until quite recently in time. Once the stigma of having a baby out of wedlock went away, many young women decided to be a Mom instead of being forced to "give the baby away"...and then there are always women whose husbands/boyfriends bailed on them.

Maybe the writer of this dreck should ponder why men are not like THEY used to be

[liberal_at_heart]

25. "once women were in the workforce and started making enough to support a family, maybe they

decided to go it alone."

That is exactly the kind of freedom they don't want women to have. They want women to be dependent on a man to take care of them. They are much easier to control that way.

[SoCalDem]

29. Lucky for us all, "they" can only whine about it

until they are willing to re-establish wages to a place when a single income can once again sustain a family... and even then, many women enjoy working and will always work outside the home for a paycheck.

and many women will never marry because they "need" to.. yay for that !!

[Arkana]

22. Why don't they just come out and say it?

"Why can't we live in Mayberry circa 1954?"

[antigone382]

57. Mayberry had an understanding justice system and a community that cared about each other.

And while I don't think his character was overly political, the dear Andy Griffith was a strong Democrat. Mayberry is out of these guys' league.

[In_The_Wind]

24. That is totally ridiculous.

[Jim__]

26. The survey shows that 63% of the mothers that are primary earners are single mothers.

Fox seems to be opposed to their position as primary earner. Is Fox advocating social welfare for these families?

[liberal_at_heart]

27. They believe single mothers deserve to suffer and be punished for being single mothers.

especially the ones who dared to be single mothers because they had sex without being married or because they divorced their husband.

[SoCalDem]

30. yep.. they just want to shame them and make them beg and apologize for being

so naughty...



rightwingers just have to be shaming someone

they would prefer the era of Nathaniel Hawthorne.. with ipods, cell phones, pizza & x boxes though

[meow2u3]

50. Don't forget widowed moms

They need to be punished because they had the nerve to outlive their husbands (the ones who died young).

[SamKnause]

31. Fox

BITE ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Being born with a penis does not give you the right to dominate someone born with a vagina.

Male domination is not working out very well for the majority of the world's population.

Male domination and religion go hand and hand.

Brainwashing women with religion allows them to be dominated by men.

This is infuriating.

I have to keep reminding myself that I live in the 21st century.

[PDJane]

32. Our Agnes wonders how the man gets laid and who hired him.

Agnes is 87, and informs me that 'that shit went out with hoop skirts.'

[stopwastingmymoney]

65. I love that!

Thanks for the mental image, I really enjoyed it

[fitman]

33. My wife loves when I make the decisions and

take the lead role in our relationship....Don't get me wrong I don't boss or dominate her. I could never respect a woman if I looked upon her as biblically subservient which is a turnoff to both of us.

She makes more than me, kept her maiden name(for business reasons) and we look at each others as equals..we even have separate checking accounts/credit cards and she runs her own business.

That being said she admits it's a huge turn-on to her when I make the decisions/take charge around the house and our personal life. Maybe because she makes tough, stressful decisions at work every day it's nice to come home and have someone else take the responsibility and be in charge...I don't know. She knows I would never make her do something she did not like or agree and always look out for her best interest. We are best friends besides lovers. .

Little things for instance... She never initiates sex and hates if i grovel or ask for it. She wants me to initiate, start making out and if she does not want to she will tell me which is rare.

[Just Saying]

35. More proof of their sexism

And they think they hide it so well! The best part is that a lot of them don't believe they're sexist and racist and are genuinely shocked that we're not on board since they know what's best for all of us.

[LondonReign2]

36. Oh, that fat fuck Erick "Erick" Erickson? Figures

I see a Brietbart in his future

[AndyA]

41. The female Praying Mantis eats the male after mating.

An exception to the rule, perhaps.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. Do these guys even KNOW any women???

This is the kind of crap one expects from a bunch of 12 year olds where women are considered a "theory".

[Initech]

53. I highly doubt it.

Or they don't think beyond what their pastor tells them to think.

[chowder66]

56. This! nt

[KT2000]

45. has he ever watched animals?

the female holds the cards in much of the animal world. The eagle's nest I am watching is run by the female with male in supporting role. Elephants maintain matriarchal societies etc.
What an idiot.

[Jennicut]

47. He has an ugly history of saying sexist crap about women.

Really, he should realize as a Gen Xer that our generation and millenials really had no choice regarding women working more. People rely more on two incomes as expenses increased. And single mothers have no man to come along and be the breadwinner. They live no fairy tale.

I have two kids in elementary school and work part time as a substitute teacher. That will change when they get older and my husband will appreciate the extra income if I work full time. He has no issue if I end up making more money then him or working more. He worked very hard so I could stay home when my girls were really little. Most men could care less today.

[Skidmore]

51. From what tar pit did this decrepit dinosaur crawl

[rurallib]

52. Erik Erikson - why would anyone take anything he said seriously?

[clarice]

54. WTF ????!!!! nt

[Rex]

55. Tell that to a male preying mantis.

I could make a huge list of creatures in the animal kingdom whereas the female is not only BIGGER, but is the dominate gender in the relationship.

Funny, the Sucknews dribbler wants us to believe subjective and objective mean the same thing!

No wonder people that watch Sucknews are so stupid!

[davidn3600]

58. Some people can't let the 1950s die

These people think the 50s were the golden age of American society.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

59. Then there are the ones who feel it was the 80's under Reagan...

You know,...back when the entire administration was going to jail.

[alp227]

60. great takedown of Erick Erickson's ignorance by biologist PZ Myers:

It’s not true! Many species exhibit different patterns of dominance, and some have no system of dominance at all. It’s quite common for females to be larger than males, for instance. Erickson is claiming that something common in primates is a universal.

NATURALISTIC FALLACY, ASSHOLE!

You don’t get to spend your pundit career blithering about human (and American) exceptionalism and then turn around when it’s convenient to your argument to point to some monkey over there and say, “See? That’s the natural order!”

Erick Erickson is one hella confused dingleberry. Why does anyone listen to a biblical literalist pontificating about science?

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2013/05/30/oh-no-equality-fire-and-brimstone-coming-down-from-the-skies-rivers-and-seas-boiling-forty-years-of-darkness-earthquakes-volcanoes-the-dead-rising-from-the-grave-human-sacrifice-dogs-a/

Dumb right wingers with repeating names:
Erick Erickson
Lars Larson
Hugh Hewitt
Chris Christie (he's just putting on this bipartisan facade and appearing with Obama for the 2014 NJ gubernatorial election, don't buy into that, he's still a union-busting pig!)

[NewJeffCT]

61. I'm sure the women of DU now realize the error of their ways

and will soon meekly line up to follow the scientifically correct dominant leadership of their husbands, fiances or boyfriends.

[freshwest]

66. Republicans would use that graph for a completely different purpose.

That graph to them, shows just what is wrong in America today. Barefoot and pregnant is the only jobs program they support. Send all those women home, and the men will magically get all of those jobs.

No need for unemployment benefits if you fire half the workforce, just as the women were sent home from the defense industry as the men returned from WW2.



http://www.alternet.org/story/154197/4_states_where_right-wingers_are_promoting_shocking_measures_to_keep_women_barefoot_and_pregnant

Domestic tranquility nationwide will be assured!

Do I need a icon?

Use it freely for the above.

They say it's the solution to the problem of unemployment and all other social ills. No kidding. They either never knew, or reject the reasons behind the women's movement. This is what we're up against, folks.