63% of Democrats Want Special Prosecutor in IRS Case - Poll.

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Poll: Voters want special prosecutor for IRS case

Most Americans want a special prosecutor to investigate possible abuses at the Internal Revenue Service, according to a new poll.

The Quinnipiac University national poll says respondents support an IRS special prosecutor by 76% to 17%, including 63%-30% among Democrats.

Congressional Republicans and the Justice Department are currently investigating the IRS targeting of conservative groups over their tax-exempt status. Officials with the White House and President Obama's re-election campaign have denied knowledge of the IRS activities.

"Voters apparently don't like the idea of Attorney General Eric Holder investigating the matter himself, perhaps because they don't exactly think highly of him," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute. "Holder gets a negative 23-39% job approval rating."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2013/05/30/obama-quinnipiac-poll-irs-benghazi-associated-press/2371701/

[KamaAina]

1. Maybe Agent Orange could lure Ken Starr away from Baylor.

[edhopper]

2. How many wanted Bush/Cheney

investigated for War Crimes?

So going after phoney astro-turf Tea Party groups is a scandal these days?

[rl6214]

21. I think distrust and hatred towards the IRS outweighs any political hatred

[leftyohiolib]

3. that means 63% of dems are unaware there is no scandal in the irs - it was doing it's job

[1-Old-Man]

32. I am very pleased to see someone point this simple fact out, they are supposed to investigate

And who in all of the fires of hell does not think that the groups they were investigating had no justification for claiming or asking for tax exempt status? Fer Christ's sakes, the entire Tea Party movement is nothing but political and has no other agenda than getting lunatic Republicans elected to office.

[spin]

34. I agree that conservative Tea Party groups deserve fair scrutiny as do liberal groups. ...

Still if there is any proof that conservative groups were singled out and targeted by the IRS far more than liberal groups I will be disturbed.

Eventually a Republican administration will regain control of the presidency and might use the IRS to harass liberal groups. If that happens, I will be infuriated.

One of the prime reasons that I voted for Obama was disgust with the Bush administration and its use of the War on Terror to erode civil liberty in our nation.

In a representative democracy such as we enjoy, all sides should be allowed to express their opinions without harassment from the party in power as long as they stay within the law. If citizens ever lose the right to fairly express their views for consideration by the voters I fear this nation will no longer set an example to other nations. The Tea Party and other ultra conservative organizations have a right to present their arguments and our free press should fairly report on both sides of the issue and allow the voters to decide which side they support.

Currently a lot of allegations have been made against the Obama administration. I currently have made no decisions on if any of these claims are accurate as I lack enough information. That's why I support a fair, unbiased and non partisan investigation. Let's first find out the truth and then make a decision on if any wrongdoing happened. If it did, we have to uncover who was responsible and why it happened. If there is undeniable truth to the assertions, we need to find a way to prevent this from ever happening in the future.

I enjoy watching football and support the Pittsburgh Steelers but I want the referees to be fair and allow the best team to win. If it becomes obvious that the referees favor either the Steelers or their opponent, I feel that I have wasted my time watching the game. Football is just a game and the winner or loser of any game makes little difference in my life. If the Steelers win another Super Bowl because they are the best team in the NFL, I will be extremely happy but if they win because the referees unfairly penalize the teams they face, I will simply stop watching football.

Am I being unreasonable?

[leftyohiolib]

36. THIs has already happened

Eventually a Republican administration will regain control of the presidency and might use the IRS to harass liberal groups. If that happens, I will be infuriated. now that you know and are now infuriated what are you going to do?

b.t.w. kkkarl rove got a 501c4 how much social welfare do you think they are doing compared to the politicking that they ARE doing?

[spin]

37. I'm not sure how we tackle this problem. ...

Obviously I find it hard to vote Republican to correct this issue because I fear they would never change the law as they benefit from it and primarily because I am a Democrat. I also feel the the Republican Party was well aware that the Tea Party was receiving more scrutiny than liberal groups but the old GOP has no fondness for the Tea Party as they are simply too far right to ever compromise on any issue. The old GOP realizes that moving too far right will doom their party. Therefore they will attack Obama and Democrats because they hope the effort will help them gain seats in congress and possibly the next Presidency. Therefore they are simply being hypocritical.

I feel we need to overhaul our election system to limit the amount of money candidates can spend to get reelected which would help eliminate the influence that contributions from big money can exert. Political campaigns are extremely expensive to run today which greatly limits any opportunity for a member of the middle or lower class to successfully run for office unless he sells out to lobbyists for the big corporations and the rich. If a politician takes large donations, he owes favors or he/she will not be reelected. It appears that most politicians are fond of regaining office far more than representing the views of those who voted for their election and passing laws that will make life better in our nation.

Honestly I dread any election season as I find myself constantly watching political advertisements which portray the candidate's opponent as some evil individual who wishes to destroy our environment for the good of big oil corporations to and favor the one percent or who wishes to turn our democracy into a socialist nation such as exits in Europe. Often the accusations are even worse. In a few cases there may be some truth in the commercials but all too often there is considerable exaggeration. Unfortunately while most people despise negative political campaigns, they do work.

It seems to me that two great careers to pursue to today is to gain political office at a national level or become a televangelist. You really don't have to be extremely intelligent or honest to succeed in either but if you have a lot of charisma you can hold a job for your lifetime and end up a millionaire. While I realize that there are some great lifetime politicians and some good evangelists, often money and power leads to corruption and dishonesty.

My hope is that eventually political campaigns will be reduced to a just a few TV advertisements and a few debates. Let the voters pick the candidates that agree with their views without all the bullshit.

I also favor term limits for senators and representatives. Let's say 30 years but that is just an arbitrary figure. I don't feel the founders of our nation ever expected that an elected representative would serve for life. Unfortunately the system they set up allowed this to happen and the longer a person is in congress the more powerful he or she becomes.

Unfortunately I can't envision any way that my ideas will ever be implemented.

[newmember]

4. good , I hope people go to jail for it

Follow the bread crumbs to where ever it leads.

And fuck Holder

[Cali_Democrat]

5. Jail for what? What specific laws were broken in your opinion?

Please link to the specific statute.

Thank you in advance.

[newmember]

6. That's what will be determined by a special prosecutor

To just say no law was broken because a few talking heads on the MSM and cable said so is ridiculous.

If no law was broken then it will be no problem for the IRS ...right

[Cali_Democrat]

7. But you just said people should go to jail and you can't even reference a specific statute

or law broken. You're the one mentioning jail time.

Next time be a little more prepared to cite a specific law and evidence so as to not look foolish.

[newmember]

8. Oh' someone will if this goes to special prosecutor

watch and see

[Cali_Democrat]

11. So you do think someone will go to jail?

Which specific statutes were broken?

[Chan790]

23. I'm not expecting an answer.

This all seems to be "I don't know who's responsible or what they did wrong...but somebody's got to pay for this!"

There was no crime here...I know that not because of the talking heads but because I'm a former development coordinator for an NPO and it's my job to know that laws that govern my profession. The IRS did what the IRS is supposed to do...investigate applicants for tax-exempt status exercising due-scrutiny. One of the ways it does this is simply by identifying the types of organizations that have inappropriately attempted to obtain tax-exemption in the past for increased scrutiny.

Hint: That tends to be conservative and anti-tax groups.

[Cali_Democrat]

25. Exactly. n/t

[Rex]

33. So how was the gun range?

Kewl story bro!

[gcomeau]

26. For *what* exactly??? -nt

[ProSense]

9. 68 percent of Democrats

believe the decision was made by civil service employees, not the Obama administration.

In fact, a plurality (45 percent) of those polled believe that to be the case.

75 percent of Democrats don't believe the administration mislead on the issue.

Only 29 percent of Democrats describe the incident as a "scandal."

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=1899

Poll: Huge Majority Says Economy Should Trump Congressional Investigations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022921185

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15. At least we agree the decision was wrong.

I hope we find the TRUTH about the extent of the effort and who initiated it and was in on it.

[Cali_Democrat]

20. Still stings, huh?

[Fire Walk With Me]

10. I'm sure that next they'll all want an investigation into the 7400+ brutlalized, arrested Occupiers

who were engaged in their 1st Amendment rights to push for positive change and instead faced domestic terrorism against they by their own government.

[magellan]

19. The squeaky wheel gets the grease

And the Repugs know how to squeak.

[Fire Walk With Me]

22. Unfortunately, so do the plutonomists to whom so many Dems also listen.

The corruption is wide-spread and must be stopped. A good start would be to eliminate PAC monies and lobbying as well as eliminating the revolving door in politics to cushy private sector positions.

[magellan]

35. +1 Only wish I saw a way to get those things done

We have two corporate-controlled parties and a corporate media. Big business calls the shots on the whole kit and kaboodle. It isn't going to throw its money behind candidates who want to undo its control. That's the only reason the teabaggers were so successful at placing people in state and national positions: Koch/ALEC were happy to support pro-corporate candidates.

Realistically, I see no way of turning this around.

[badtoworse]

13. I'm not surprised. Holder's credibility is shot

[Puzzledtraveller]

31. Seriously, Obama does not owe Holder anything, pals aside

If he just asked him to go it would take all the air out of this mess, as it stands now it won't go away and we have the clock on a 2nd term and looming midterms running. He needs to clean house, now.

[Dawson Leery]

14. Ignorance is bi-partisan.

There is no scandal. The IRS received hundreds of applications with within a short period of time, which had similar names.
The agents involved were right to flag these groups.

A special prosecutor will go on a witch hunt just as Ken Starr did against Bill Clinton.

[hay rick]

16. Derp.

"Of the three controversies, 44% of voters see the IRS probe as the most important, with 24% citing Benghazi and 15% picking the AP records seizure."

Derp.

[phleshdef]

17. And then when a special prosecutor discovers nothing illegal happened...

Lets do it.

[cherokeeprogressive]

27. Plus, if a special prosecutor is assigned it leaves the news

Nobody would have to comment on an ongoing investigation.

It's a win win.

[Little_Wing]

30. Yeah, bring it on.

Wins all around: nothing happened, GOP looks stupid (again), coverage goes on the down low. One less meaningless whine from the right.

I likey.

[shawn703]

18. We don't have the money

To fund the unlimited budget of a special prosecutor. Sorry folks.

[hrmjustin]

24. I do not want a special prosecutor. Not a good idea at all.

[truebrit71]

28. For doing their damned jobs....Brilliant!!

[truebrit71]

29. A Special Prosecutor in this case would immediately switch to a "what did the President know,

..and when did he know it?" witch-hunt...NOT a good idea..


If we can't even get a proper investigation into the whole WMD/Iraq war lies, why the fuck should we investigate government employees DOING THEIR FUCKING JOBS???