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Sat Jun 1, 2013, 08:39 AM

Maher: "This is like the Cleveland guy having a pizza party for those girls he had in his basement.”

Hearing that former president George W. Bush went on a motorcycle ride with a group of disabled Iraq war veterans did not sit well with Real Time host Bill Maher on Friday.

“I found this to be nauseating,” Maher said of Bush’s appearance at the Warrior 100K Ride in Texas. “First he sends them off to war to get their limbs blown off, then he has them over for a barbecue. This is like the Cleveland guy having a pizza party for those girls he had in his basement.”


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Reply Maher: "This is like the Cleveland guy having a pizza party for those girls he had in his basement.” (Original post)
kpete Jun 2013 OP
kentuck Jun 2013 #1
roody Jun 2013 #2
Pelican Jun 2013 #5
Major Nikon Jun 2013 #20
Dash87 Jun 2013 #68
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #24
Pelican Jun 2013 #27
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #31
Pelican Jun 2013 #35
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #36
Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #28
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #32
Kingofalldems Jun 2013 #29
roody Jun 2013 #42
madrchsod Jun 2013 #3
rickyhall Jun 2013 #7
pasto76 Jun 2013 #8
underpants Jun 2013 #11
MH1 Jun 2013 #30
Ligyron Jun 2013 #57
TinkerTot55 Jun 2013 #13
caraher Jun 2013 #16
7962 Jun 2013 #48
caraher Jun 2013 #56
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #60
Sirveri Jun 2013 #58
wolfisis Jun 2013 #21
hrmjustin Jun 2013 #22
xxqqqzme Jun 2013 #40
Aviation Pro Jun 2013 #23
Lenomsky Jun 2013 #38
7962 Jun 2013 #50
frylock Jun 2013 #33
Skittles Jun 2013 #51
adieu Jun 2013 #10
Lars39 Jun 2013 #34
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #46
caraher Jun 2013 #4
L0oniX Jun 2013 #15
Paulie Jun 2013 #18
L0oniX Jun 2013 #19
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #47
L0oniX Jun 2013 #54
Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #63
7962 Jun 2013 #49
Chuuku Davis Jun 2013 #6
Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #9
TNNurse Jun 2013 #12
perdita9 Jun 2013 #14
caraher Jun 2013 #17
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #45
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #25
ctsnowman Jun 2013 #65
rhett o rick Jun 2013 #69
Lint Head Jun 2013 #26
ZombieHorde Jun 2013 #37
trackfan Jun 2013 #39
amuse bouche Jun 2013 #41
Arctic Dave Jun 2013 #43
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #44
mimi85 Jun 2013 #55
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #59
kentuck Jun 2013 #61
IrishAyes Jun 2013 #62
still_one Jun 2013 #52
Iwillnevergiveup Jun 2013 #53
Nanjing to Seoul Jun 2013 #64
ctsnowman Jun 2013 #66
ctsnowman Jun 2013 #67

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 08:49 AM

1. A very good analogy...

In my opinion. Both psychopaths.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:16 AM

2. Maher is brave.

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Response to roody (Reply #2)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:46 AM

5. Why?

 

What should he be afraid of?

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Response to Pelican (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:19 AM

20. Chemtrails

Just sayin'

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Response to Major Nikon (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 09:52 AM

68. Are you sure he isn't a cyborg or reptilian?

Dang NWO shapeshifters are everywhere! That is, the ones that Slenderman hasn't killed yet.

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Response to Pelican (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:07 PM

24. You forgot the sarcasm tag. nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #24)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:17 PM

27. Is that for me or Roody?

 

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Response to Pelican (Reply #27)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:21 PM

31. Very clever for a new poster. Have you ever used another name? nm

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #31)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:36 PM

35. The word "Why" is clever?

 

It's appreciated but i think you have set your bar low...

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Response to Pelican (Reply #35)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:39 PM

36. I dont buy your pretense of naivete. nm

 

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Response to Pelican (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:19 PM

28. The man did lose a lucrative network contract for making a wise crack when his job is to

 

make wise cracks. That sort of thing can influence a person.

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #28)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:23 PM

32. And some believe others have lost way more than that. nm

 

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Response to Pelican (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 02:01 PM

42. BFEE- Bush Family Evil Empire

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:23 AM

3. maher is way off on this one....

those girls were kidnapped,raped,became pregnant,and held against their will for years.

the troops are a voluntary force who were doing what their commander in chief ordered them to do. his war and it`s aftermath will go down in history as one of the worse military campaigns in history. history will record that bush was one of the worst presidents in our brief history.

yes i find it sick that he would ride with the people who believed they were doing their duty for god and country . i find it sick that bush used so many who paid the price so he could prove to his dad that he could finish what his dad refused,for good reason,to do-kill saddam hussein.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:28 AM

7. I think he's right

These veterans volunteered to defend our country not fight W's useless wars. In effect, he kidnapped, maimed and killed these brave citizens for his own purposes.

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:31 AM

8. uh, yeah. invading iraq was not about killing saddam

it was about trying to get a new iraqi government to sign over their vast oil fields.

are you a troop? better than 99% chance you are not.

'voluntary' huh. just because nobody holds a gun to our heads to sign the dotted line doesnt mean that most of the soldiers Ive served with had other options. for many people the army is their only escape from poverty.

allow me to be blunt, that attitude of 'their voluntary' is a blowoff. it is how you all rationalize not caring about what happens to our troops over there, but more importantly when they come home. Try and argue all you want, but the proof is in the pudding. Try living it. try watching your friends go through it. probably only then could you understand how offensive this 'volunteer' remark is these days.

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:46 AM

11. (Iraq)..and empty the US Treasury

into the pockets of Dick's cronies

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Response to underpants (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:21 PM

30. ^^^ This.

the other stuff was just gravy.

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Response to underpants (Reply #11)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 06:01 AM

57. and no doubt thought they were "doing God's work" in de-funding the evil government. n/t

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:59 AM

13. The GOP...

...who planned and carried out that filthy war, are at the head of the pack denying benefits and denying increased funding for care that we PROMISED to our armed forces. Not sure who "you all" are, but I find liberal and progressive people genuinely more concerned about our returning vets than most of the flag-wavers who only want to trot vets out on special holidays.

Just my observation.


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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:15 AM

16. I'm increasingly coming to believe we need a draft

Is there any misuse of the military that can't be dismissed with "they volunteered?" For the past decade we've had two Americas, the one at peace and the one with loved ones serving overseas.

I don't think the volunteer military has been good for democracy, even if it has proven successful in terms of combat effectiveness.

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Response to caraher (Reply #16)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:55 PM

48. I respectfully disagree;

 

What we need, above all, is the finest military possible. A draft puts a LOT of people in ranks that dont want to be there, which in turn degrades the quality of the force. Our current force is actually much better educated than many believe. I doubt a draft wouldve stopped cheney from invading Iraq. Oops, I mean Bush.......

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Response to 7962 (Reply #48)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 01:45 AM

56. I think we're a very long way from being in real peril from a slightly weaker military

What makes us less safe today is the way our wars are generating people who want to kill us. We have such near-absolute dominance in any conventional battlefield that even if our military were to lose some of its edge, it would still be completely insane for any other nation to start a conventional war with us. So I respectfully disagree that what we need "above all" is the finest military possible - we only ever need a military good enough to deter war and to win it should it come. Setting the bar at "finest possible" distorts our values as a nation, leads to inflated spending on weapons and actually makes us weaker. (For the reductio ad absurdum of "finest possible" look at North Korea, where pretty much nothing else beyond the military receives any resources, though obviously their model of military strength is based on sheer weight of numbers rather than quality.)

It's also not clear that a volunteer force is the only or best way to build an elite force; it's just the one the US has chosen. Looking at a very different example, Israel still manages to have a top-notch military despite compulsory service.

What having more people and families with "skin in the game" does do is ratchet up the political stakes dramatically for starting military adventures (see Vietnam). Perhaps Cheney could have stampeded us into war with loose talk of smoking guns in the form of mushroom clouds. But it would have been harder to ignore the mass antiwar protests that preceded the fighting. And the 2004 election may not have been close enough for them to steal in Ohio if more voters had loved ones sitting involuntarily in Iraq for the sake of what by then was clear were lies. It would have been much harder for anyone to shrug their shoulders as they did and say sure, Bush lied, but at least nobody went there who didn't volunteer.

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Response to caraher (Reply #56)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:45 AM

60. Very well said.

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Response to caraher (Reply #16)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 07:00 AM

58. I am oppossed to the draft because I consider it slavery.

I also consider the military to be a form of bondage. You can't quit, you can't refuse to give your labor, if you run they bring you back in chains and ruin your life. Sounds like slavery to me.

Better alternative, allow the members of the military to quit, and to form trade unions. We'll never fight a war of aggression again because nobody will go to fight in it.

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:22 AM

21. i so agree

i so agree with you. every two months for 8 years i have (with some other people)had a pro-peace-pro-soldier rally. the public is very supportive because they know we are for the soldiers but not the war. the soldiers are heroes to me. you are right the war was never about Saddam or the Iraq's people freedom. it was about OIL. thank you for your post.

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Response to wolfisis (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:26 AM

22. Welcome to DU my friend!

 

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Response to wolfisis (Reply #21)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:28 PM

40. well, it was originally

named Operation Iraqi Liberation. Can't get any closer to the real thing than that!

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:31 AM

23. C'mon pasto...

...the majority of combat arms guys I served with wanted to be there - as a tanker, I wanted to be there - and don't get me started on the 03xx and 11Bs, trust me they want to be there. And if you really want to see soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines who are the acme of "wanting to be there' look no further than the SF, NSW, PJ and MARSOC communities.

The myth of "they have no choice" is just that, a myth.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:19 PM

38. Really?

I'm not American but I can understand 18 y/o kids or even older military types actually wanting to see combat after all that's what they are/were trained for but I wonder how many that are/were not 'brained washed' actually BELIEVE(D) that Iraq was worth it in terms of personal loss and collateral damage!

They have no choice is no Myth .. you sign up get trained and do the bidding of your country rightly or wrongly or am I wrong and one day a senior officer says hey guys any of you want to go fight a war it's 100% optional so raise your hand if you're up for some blood and guts and back to guard duty if you dislike hot deserts.

If I've missed your point I apologise but I think not.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #23)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:06 PM

50. I'm with you, Pro.

 

I am no longer in, but have many friends who are and by choice.

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:23 PM

33. well stated

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Response to pasto76 (Reply #8)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:13 PM

51. THANK YOU

you say it well, pasto

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:39 AM

10. One got victims by forcing them into cars

 

the other got victims by cajoling them with charm and two-faced lying.

I'd rather have the former, at least it was honest and direct. The latter makes you think you were sold after the fact.

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Response to adieu (Reply #10)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:23 PM

34. Also poverty draft

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Response to madrchsod (Reply #3)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:54 PM

46. Maher was spot on.

Just because the two crimes were not identical doesn't mean they weren't equally heinous.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:44 AM

4. It was actually a mountain bike ride - but it's worse that Maher knows

He seems to be doing these annually. I found a clip from a past ride where he basks in the love of people he sent off to be wounded for his lies.

At one point (around 2:30 in the video I link) W mentions how tough the ride was, "especially if you're 65" and Dan, another amputee, chimes in, "Or have just one leg."

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Response to caraher (Reply #4)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:14 AM

15. Someone might get hurt while riding a bicycle or just being around Bush...

 

Bush falls off bike after colliding with officer - President suffers minor scrapes in incident at G-8 summit

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/8487719/ns/world_news/t/bush-falls-bike-after-colliding-officer/

...and I don't think that was the first time he failed at riding a bicycle.

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:18 AM

18. Bush also fell off a Segway. It has computers and gyroscopes and he still managed it.

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Response to Paulie (Reply #18)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:19 AM

19. Saw that. Maybe he was chewing gum at the time. n/t

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #19)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:55 PM

47. Chewing gum?

More like back on the sauce. Even when he's sober, he acts like a dry drunk.

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #47)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:46 PM

54. Maybe he needed a vacation...

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #54)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:27 PM

63. I wonder if they allow him to eay pretzels on his vacations.

 

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Response to L0oniX (Reply #15)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:00 PM

49. Just tried to kill that bug!!!!!!!

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:18 AM

6. Disagree

Not even close analogy

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:32 AM

9. Actually, it's like that guy throwing the girls a pizza party,...

 

....and seeing them flirt with him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:55 AM

12. My thoughts

I would love to see a video of a group of veterans refusing to go and telling him why.......They fed his delusion and that is only good with people who suffer from advanced dementia and would get upset. I do not care if he gets upset. I would actually prefer he do time in a Federal prison with Cheney as a cellmate.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:10 AM

14. Maher nailed this one

George W. thought nothing of sending other people into war to make $$$ for his oil buddies. Then he tries to make himself feel better by playing buddy to the wounded warriors one day a year.

I've always suspected W. of being a sociopath.

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Response to perdita9 (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:16 AM

17. No doubt he is

And there's more than enough Stockholm Syndrome among these wounded vets to keep his ego stroked for that full day

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Response to perdita9 (Reply #14)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:46 PM

45. So nice to hear

that he and that other sociopath Cheney no longer speak to one another.

Hell, GOP = sociopath these days.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:13 PM

25. I am not particularly happy with the analogy, but I agree with this statement,

 

"I found this to be nauseating." It was the ultimate in condescension. Babs probably offered them cake.

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #25)

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 09:41 AM

65. lol

Babs.

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Response to ctsnowman (Reply #65)

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 09:55 AM

69. Was my contempt too obvious? nm

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 12:15 PM

26. This is more like Charles Manson dancing on the graves of the people he had murdered.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:03 PM

37. The soldiers chose to be held captive.

The girls/women didn't. Big difference in my mind.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:23 PM

39. Funny: Maher's name is so often misspelled on DU that the correct spelling looks weird. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 01:33 PM

41. I get Bill's point

if you don't think about it too much

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 07:20 PM

43. Spot on.

 

But that won't stop the delusional from thinking any different.

Shit.

There is still soldiers who think they accomplished something over there other then making some people obscenely rich and killing a lot of innocent people.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 09:43 PM

44. Always loved Maher.

He can kick butt like nobody else.

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #44)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 12:57 AM

55. I used to appreciate Bill a lot more.

Maybe it's just me (and my husband), but I really think his shows have gone downhill. We just finished watching last night's show that we'd "taped."

He seems to be interrupting guests more and more. Michael Isikoff barely got a word in. I still don't know what the guy on the left end of the panel was talking about or even who he is. And the discussion with the actress that can't seem to get a job seemed totally pointless. The audience didn't help either. They either didn't understand what was being discussed or didn't think the "jokes" were that funny.

We make a bet before every show about how long before he starts in with religion and weed. I happen to agree with him on both subjects, but somehow he brings them up in conversations that have nothing to do with either. And I hope I'm wrong here, but I find him a bit homophobic and somewhat of a misogynist. Sigh, maybe I'm getting too cynical lately. I think he means well; he just seems so predictable this last year or so. I still get a kick out of when Snoop was on recently and Bill kept smelling and touching him - quite strange. The YT video mix was hilarious.

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Response to mimi85 (Reply #55)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:40 AM

59. I know Bill can be a pill.

But there's a lot of honey in my bank for people who perform the much needed public service of stomping everything GOP. If he ranges a little too far afield at times, maybe I'm too much like an adoring, indulgent mother. I feel the same about David Letterman. He can hardly do anything unforgivable in my eyes because he hammered on Romney w/o an ounce of mercy. Every night like clockwork. I'm sure we owe him a general debt of gratitude for his help.

Anyway, Maher's more of a satirist than outright comedian.

Overall, an enemy of my enemy is at least a potential friend to me.

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Response to IrishAyes (Reply #59)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:46 AM

61. Bill Maher is the modern-day Lenny Bruce.

He can be arrogant. He can be insensitive. He can be sexist. He can be an arrogant, insensitive sexist but he stands close to where a certain truth exists. He is also an entertainer.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #61)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 11:51 AM

62. So true.

Are you familiar with Dylan's homage to Lenny Bruce? Exquisite.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 10:34 PM

52. It offended some of his guests on the show, but the reality is a lot families lives have been

"Changed" forever for that war based on a lie

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat Jun 1, 2013, 11:29 PM

53. Bush doesn't pity them

because they don't pity themselves??? He wouldn't pity them even if they did pity themselves. He doesn't belong anywhere near any veterans.

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Response to Iwillnevergiveup (Reply #53)

Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:34 PM

64. Most Republicans don't. Soldiers are tools to them. If the tool is destroyed, you replace it with

 

another tool (KIA). . .if the tool breaks, you just throw it away (disabled vets).

In other words, the GOP only honors the soldier when they fight and die. . .when they fight and live, they are offered lip service. When they fight, live and have their lives forever broken, they are now a drain on the treasury and need to go away.

Remember the Bonus Army? With the GOP, things haven't changed.

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Response to Nanjing to Seoul (Reply #64)

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 09:47 AM

66. Nailed it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Mon Jun 3, 2013, 09:47 AM

67. K & R

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