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choie
(6,808 posts)n/t
Ilsa
(64,048 posts)for me. Whenever I watch it, I think about MLK, RFK, Wellstone, etc and anyone else whose life was destroyed by RW paranoid criminals. I think about the Bushes, Cheneys, etc, and how they have gotten away with theft and murder. And I remember that our democracy isn't safe.
applegrove
(131,158 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Those are my personal favorites, but there are some great ones out there.
BainsBane
(57,640 posts)both about dictatorships, the first in Argentina and the second in East Germany. Both masterpieces of cinema.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Frances McDormand is awesome in that flick. And it is my favorite flick with Willam Defoe. Gene Hackman and the extraordinary support cast are equal to the task. Plus, it has a young Brad Dourif before The Lord of the Rings. A great flick.
I saw it on my local TV station which broadcasts This TV. There is no cable here, so a roof antenna and rotor are required. Mine is 25 years old and still work very well.
I also get MHz Worldview out of Grand Rapids. They have world news and drama. They used to fully cover Australian football, but stopped. Too bad, the NFL pales in comparison. (Not that I ever watch US football.)
Unfortunately, there is no Internet here either, other than cell phone, and that only in the past two years. So all my DU comes via my iPhone.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)I didn't recognize him when I saw the Two Towers on multiple occasions or when I revisited Mississippi burning a couple weeks ago. He really is a good actor!
bottomofthehill
(9,356 posts)Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)I've watched it several times...it's always engrossing.
LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)dhill926
(16,953 posts)been a long time since I've seen it, but remember it being very powerful....
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)I have the DVD. One of my favorites.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)pacalo
(24,850 posts)muscles its way into power & politics.
bottomofthehill
(9,356 posts)pacalo
(24,850 posts)bottomofthehill
(9,356 posts)The Cuban missile crisis was in October
bottomofthehill
(9,356 posts)About the Kennedy Administration and the Cuban Missile Crisis
pacalo
(24,850 posts)MinM
(2,650 posts)As with 'Seven Days in May" the Pentagon was none to keen on having their leaders portrayed in an accurate/poor light.
President Kennedy: What did you say?
General Curtis LeMay: You're in a pretty bad fix.
President Kennedy: Well, maybe you haven't noticed: You're in it with me.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1418900
MinM
(2,650 posts)
The film is based on the novel by Fletcher Knebel and Charles W. Bailey II and published in 1962. The author, Knebel, got the idea for the book after interviewing the Air Force Chief of Staff Curtis LeMay. At the time LeMay had spoken to some of his staff about removing the President from power.
In the film the leader of the plot, head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS), Air Force General James Mattoon Scott, is compared to General Edwin A. Walker.
It is believed that Knebel got the idea for the book after a conversation with President Kennedy. It was Knebel's first novel. According to John Frankenheimer, the director, Pierre Salinger conveyed to him that JFK wanted the film be made, "these were the days of General Walker" and, though the Pentagon did not want the film made, the President would conveniently arrange to visit Hyannis Port for a weekend when the film needed to shoot outside the White House.
The main figure behind the film was not John Frankenheimer but Kirk Douglas and his film company, Joel Productions. It was Douglas who broke the blacklist with producing Spartacus in 1960. Joe McCarthy along with General Walker gets a mention in the film.
In the book, the secret United States Army combat unit created and controlled by Scott's conspiracy is based in Texas near Fort Bliss. However, in the film the venue is changed to San Diego. I wonder why?
Rod Serling is an interesting choice to write the script. He had very left-wing views and was very frustrated by the amount of political censorship he suffered. In 1959, he began producing The Twilight Zone. He stated in an interview that the science fiction format would not be controversial and would escape censorship unlike his earlier work on television. In reality the show gave him the opportunity to communicate social messages in a more veiled context.
Serling died of a heart-attack at the age of 50.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/MinM/341
MinM
(2,650 posts)Marcus is no different than Curtis LeMay, with a conscience, said Weller. I dont know if people remember who Curtis LeMay [was], but he hid eighteen nuclear missiles from President John F. Kennedy. He was the guy who wanted to pull the trigger on the Cuban Missile Crisis. If you see Fog of War, it was all about First strike! First strike! Thats a warmonger. So these warmongers exist, man, and LeMay personifies that. They were real. They are real. The thing that Marcus doesnt have is faith in the pacifistic attitude of this particular terrestrial organization because the Klingons are aggressive. A war is coming. Theyre encroaching. And what Marcus is thinking is he wants to get a jump on them, just like Curtis LeMay. Anybody who is critical of this, just watch the Errol Morris documentary Fog of War. Its from 2003, and listen to [Robert McNamara] talk about LeMay.
http://justiceforkennedy.blogspot.com/2013/06/star-trek-movie-villain-modeled-after.html
So, as with "7 Days" and "13 Days," the villain in the recent Star Trek movie is/based on Gen Curtis LeMay.

chervilant
(8,267 posts)A grim and poignant reminder that the political is personal.
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Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Screenplay by Vidal.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057883/
kimbutgar
(27,011 posts)Walter Houston as a corrupt president who goes into a coma and wakes up being a super president his cabinet are Koch bros types who basically control the whitehouse. This 80 year old movie shows things have not changed much with brought and paid for politicians.
I looked and you can watch this movie on YouTube and it shows up on TCM from time to time.
If anyone watches it I would be curious to hear your reaction.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)Advise and Consent: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055728/
p.s.
TV series: West Wing, Newsroom, House of Cards (American version)
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)It is depressing but so true
Beearewhyain
(600 posts)no one gets the joke. Seriously, this film was made in 1992 and was high parody at the time but watching it now it's like any teabagger running for office. Right down to that scene where he is questioned into a corner and responds by asking "Are you a communist?"
Yes, depressing but so true.
That movie is so true and so deeply disturbing. The older I get, the more unnerving that movie is. A rare example of a movie which tapped into a kind of truth which I don't think anyone responsible for the film could claim as wholly intentional. More like prophesy.
PB
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Lex
(34,108 posts)The film follows Stephanopoulos and Carville at first during the New Hampshire Primary and then mostly in Little Rock, Arkansas at Clinton Campaign Headquarters. The film follows several key 1992 Campaign events such as the Clinton Campaign's attack on "Read my lips: no new taxes", the Gennifer Flowers scandal, the New Hampshire primary upset and others as they played out inside of the Clinton 1992 Campaign.
The documentary uses many media headlines from the day, including media coverage of the election and other news stories such as Ross Perot's presidential exit and re-entrance, among other topics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_Room
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Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)in a political campaign.
Archae
(47,245 posts)"Triumph Of The Will"
Riefenstahl did so well filming it, and knowing what they were already doing while this particular rally was filmed.
mucifer
(25,604 posts)We had to turn it off. It was too disturbing. No blood or anything. It was to us Very disturbing.
It is too personal.
tabbycat31
(6,336 posts)Because I read this as best political firm
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)I think it was from living in the Bay Area for so long and hearing so much about him. His presence is still felt in the Castro and I remember when they were casting extras for crowd scenes. The filming was a big deal.
The candlelight vigil scene makes me bawl like a freaking baby. That's one of the most powerful scenes in any movie-just having those thousands of people in one place for one purpose.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)years ago. i love "all the president's men".
bottomofthehill
(9,356 posts)Best line in the movie " best goddamn yes men money can buy". That's politics
bottomofthehill
(9,356 posts)Frank Skeffingtons last days
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)mucifer
(25,604 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Mponti
(174 posts)1968 film on urban guerilla warfare. While banned in France, it provided insprational viewing.for the Black Panthers and the IRA and enjoyed a long run in Chicago theaters in '68. In 2003, the Pentagon used the film to stmulate discussion among military/civilian personnel about fighting urban warfare in Baghdad.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Directed by Costa-Gavras. Released in 1969.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065234/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
Following the murder of a prominent leftist, an investigator tries to uncover the truth while government officials attempt to cover up their roles.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)GREAT film.
longship
(40,416 posts)It is really about the Greek counter revolution.
I highly recommend this flick.
Got my Battle of Algiers and Z confused at first. Both great flicks. God am I old!
MinM
(2,650 posts)excellent Director .. Also directed the 'Missing' movie mentioned below.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Powerful message about racism against Japanese-Americans after WWII.
Directed by John Sturges
Plus, a whole host of movie greats:
Spencer Tracy
Robert Ryan
Anne Francis
Dean Jagger
Walter Brennan
Ernest Borgnine
Lee Marvin
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)of flaws, but it also has a good message and some of the funniest, politically incorrect scenes ever filmed.
dogknob
(2,431 posts)Do you have any more of those crispy crab-cakes?
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Loved the west coast fund raising dinner speech.
Mz Pip
(28,391 posts)It's a documentary about Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers.
PennsylvaniaMatt
(966 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)dogknob
(2,431 posts)Both Warren Beatty.
Both involve corporate takeover and domination.
Both involve corporate assassins (whatever Eric Prince is calling his outfit this week).
EDIT: Both would not be allowed today.
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)And of course, "JFK" -- probably one of the most important (and btw, accurate) movies ever made. And how democrats can get caught up in the bandwagon of propaganda to slam such a movie, is somewhat shocking to me, but then again not, because it's typical of this bullshit era (referring to the other thread which is current now about "inaccurate historical movies"
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Poll_Blind
(23,864 posts)I tell you what, the back and forth between Cliff Richardson and Robert Redford at the end.
My blood runs cold every time Richardson gets to the part where he interrupts Redford and says "Not now. Then. Ask them when they're running out. Ask them when there's no heat and they're cold. Ask them when their engines stop. Ask them when people who have never known hunger start going hungry. Want to know something? They won't want us to ask them. They'll want us to get it for them."
There's a truth to that. A truth I could not have really believed or understood, that rattles me, especially after what I've seen for the last 13 years.
PB
Yooperman
(592 posts)Fascinating movie!
YM
LuvNewcastle
(17,748 posts)Powerful message with excellent cinematography
LuvNewcastle
(17,748 posts)Skillfully encourages critical thinking about the system
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Along with a slave revolt, we get to see Roman politics in action
kentauros
(29,414 posts)Science fiction anime of some of the highest quality for both animation and writing that you'll ever see. The political intrigue is rampant in the TV series (two seasons' worth) while the movies get more into the philosophy of the "ghost" or consciousness in cyberized people.
It's an excellent series that I highly recommend
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Lincoln stands above and beyond all prior political movies.
The single best showing how Washington works.
Just about anything Henry Fonda did,where he had artistic control, he did because he wanted to send a message.
Grand Torino because he gave the finger to the NRA and to bullets/guns.
And like Henry Fonda, Clint Eastwood was robbed at Oscar Time, time and again
(Fonda finally winning the best actor he so rightfully deserved four times prior, only when on his
death bed).
Eastwood of course was robbed of the best actor and not even nominated due to the archaic(now changed) system of points used to be one of the nominees (with the most important being #1,
and it showed, like 2000 election showed, that a few votes made Eastwood go from a lock on winning the award itself, to not even being nominated at all.)
That voting system has now been changed, thankfully.
Everyone else thought everyone else would vote for him, so they gave their nom. to someone else.
And so it goes.
Frost/Nixon though the play, which I saw, was even better.
Frank Langella looked nothing like Nixon, yet after five minutes, truly became Richard Nixon.
and though some say The Candidate, I suggest Quiz Show is the best Political Movie ever
made by Robert Redford, using the game show as analogy in one of the most claustrophobic
movies of all time.
and special mention to
Downfall.
With one of the single greatest acting jobs ever by German actor Bruno Ganz
(note-Bruno is now filming a Showtime series, where he plays the Pope).
others would be
Berlin Alexanderplatz
Holocaust (early Meryl Streep)
The Contender (Sam Elliott/Joan Allen(she should have won best actress)/Beau Bridges)
and my favorite two tv political would be
Get Smart (amazing how true everything in that 1960s show is in 2013, and I truly am on the side
of Control over Kaos).
The Prisoner (where Patrick McGoohan, who legend has it refused to be the first James Bond, not wanting to accept the contract as it stood, went out and one bettered Bond by playing
(and of course, wink wink, he denied it, but a good secret agent man would always deny their name
wouldn't they) Drake after he wasn't Drake just #6.
(and what people forget is #6 of course was a cool cold assassssin just like Bond was, yet millions
adore them).
Yes, Drake is Drake. (except for contractual reasons).
A movie with the worst ending of all time, but up to then, one of the best was
"Being There" staring Peter Sellers. Why that tacked on ending, I will never know.
and this year's movie about Jackie Robinson and Branch Rickey-
41.
Showing how 70 years apart, from Mr. Jackie Robinson to Mr. Trayvon Martin, nothing at all has changed in Sanford Florida.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I watched Abe Lincoln Vampire Hunter immediately after Lincoln on a very long plane trip.
It was a fantastic twosome.
MrScorpio
(73,765 posts)Two of my faves.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)most political films bore me..
watrwefitinfor
(1,407 posts)Other favorites:
- The Pawnbroker.
- King of Hearts.
- To Kill a Mockingbird.
- Music Box.
- Burn
- Marat/Sade
(The Assasination and Persecution of Jean-Paul Marat as Performed by the Inmates of he Asylum of Charenton Under the Direction of the Marquis de Sade.)
- Enemy of the State.
(Seriously. There was an amazing statement in there about things to come. Or maybe I'm just too much of a Will Smith/Gene Hackman fan.)
Wat
watrwefitinfor
(1,407 posts)Just got it in on rental and still it nearly slipped my mind for my list. Had it on backorder for about three years and it finally came through.
Can't wait to watch it again.
Wat
BainsBane
(57,640 posts)The best TV show ever.
Pelican
(1,156 posts)Deep stuff.....
notundecided
(196 posts)At least that' what the folks at The New Yorker say. What the hell do I know about movies anyway.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)PCIntern
(28,105 posts)Love it or hate it, you're still talking about it.
Personally, I love it....except for Costner, who's about as wooden as even he can be.
Great movie!
LostOne4Ever
(9,746 posts)&
The People vs Larry Flynt
But im not sure too many people would consider GMV a political movie.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)were to good 70's political flicks.
MinM
(2,650 posts)Directed ...
Went on to Direct .. All the Presidents Men and The Pelican Brief .. before his tragic death in 1998.
MinM
(2,650 posts)grok
(550 posts)Hand's down. It challenge's one's notion of what is fair play. Even for a good cause. How far are you willing to go?
Many on the far right or left are going to hate it though. One less weapon in their arsenals of personal destruction.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055728/
flvegan
(66,002 posts)LeftInTX
(34,031 posts)Excellent fight the system documentary!!
It's about the AIDS epidemic. These guys take on the FDA!!!! It is awesome!!!!!! And it's true!!
They made the world a better place for all people facing life threatening/complicated illnesses that require faster approval rates for certain types of drugs.
http://surviveaplague.com/synopsis
HOW TO SURVIVE A PLAGUE is the story of two coalitionsACT UP and TAG (Treatment Action Group)whose activism and innovation turned AIDS from a death sentence into a manageable condition. Despite having no scientific training, these self-made activists infiltrated the pharmaceutical industry and helped identify promising new drugs, moving them from experimental trials to patients in record time. With unfettered access to a treasure trove of never-before-seen archival footage from the 1980s and '90s, filmmaker David France puts the viewer smack in the middle of the controversial actions, the heated meetings, the heartbreaking failures, and the exultant breakthroughs of heroes in the making.
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stranger81
(2,345 posts)I love many of the other moview on this thread, too, but hadn't seen these classics mentioned yet.
olddots
(10,237 posts)2000 nobody saw it because the fox fix was already in .
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)It's one of my all time favorites. Joan Allen and Gary Oldman are just fantastic.
LeftInTX
(34,031 posts)The President's Mystery - 1936
Here is the review from way back in 1936
http://movies.nytimes.com/movie/review?res=980CE3DB163EEE3BBC4152DFB667838D629EDE
The screenplay for this mystery is based upon a story suggested to Liberty Magazine by President Franklin D. Roosevelt. It is a movie about the New Deal. It's about a group of businessmen who are opposing a New Deal program. Proceeds of the movie went to FDR's Warm Springs Hospital.
The movie is B grade. It's available on Netflix. YouTube and it's also free to download on archive sites.
The release date for the movie was a month before the 1936 presidential election!
MinM
(2,650 posts)Dealt with the Allende coup d'etat in Chile and it's aftermath...
The film was banned in Chile during Pinochet's dictatorship, even though neither Chile nor Pinochet are ever mentioned by name (although the Chilean cities of Viña del Mar and Santiago are)...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_%28film%29
Jack Lemmon was in a few political thrillers aside from Missing, there was China Syndrome and JFK.
MinM
(2,650 posts)Salvador is a 1986 war drama film written by Oliver Stone and Richard Boyle, and directed by Stone. It stars James Woods, James Belushi, and Michael Murphy, with John Savage, Elpidia Carrillo, and Cynthia Gibb in supporting roles.
The film tells the story of an American journalist covering the Salvadoran civil war who becomes entangled with both leftist guerrillas and the right wing military. The film is sympathetic towards the left wing revolutionaries and strongly critical of the U.S.-supported death squads, focusing on their murder of four American churchwomen, including Jean Donovan, and their assassination of Archbishop Óscar Romero.
The film was nominated for two Academy Awards: Best Actor in a Leading Role (Woods) and Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen (Stone and Boyle).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvador_%28film%29
mnmoderatedem
(3,905 posts)not really my "favorite" but I noticed it hadn't been mentioned yet.
MinM
(2,650 posts)Denzel Washington's performance in the film as public relations expert Arnold Billings earned him the 1987 NAACP Image Award for Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture. Beatrice Straight's performance as Claire Hastings, however, earned her a Golden Raspberry Award nomination for Worst Supporting Actress.
Pete St. John (Richard Gere), a ruthless and highly successful media consultant, is juggling a couple of other political candidates when asked to join the campaign of wealthy but little-known Ohio businessman Jerome Cade (J. T. Walsh), who hopes to win the Senate seat being vacated by St. John's friend Sam Hastings (E. G. Marshall).
He comes into conflict with Arnold Billings (Denzel Washington), a public relations expert whose firm Cade has hired. St. John's investigation into Cade's background prompts Billings to retaliate by bugging St. John's office phones, flooding the basement of his headquarters, tampering with his private jet, and interfering with his other clients.
These actions force St. John to take a hard look at himself and what he has become and to decide whether his ex-wife Ellen Freeman (Julie Christie) and his former partner Wilfred Buckley (Gene Hackman) are right in believing that his success is due primarily to the exploitation of others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_%281986_film%29

