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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA very compelling picture from Reddit - Somewhere in PA:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AbandonedPorn
Location unknown, but I hope a Costco is nearby.
CincyDem
(6,351 posts)They're like locusts - they don't disappear, they just move on.
And, because they don't want any competition, they refuse to lease or sell an older building like that. They hold onto it, and it becomes a blight. They just pass the costs of keeping the old building on to their customers through those "low, low, prices."
-Laelth
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)But, in my experience, they rarely sell them.
-Laelth
Sen. Walter Sobchak
(8,692 posts)Big Lots, arguably a Wal-Mart competitor has secured a bunch of former Wal-Mart locations.
Wal-Mart Realty is a stand-alone business that is expected to perform.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)They set up shop about 1/2 mile from Target in a butt-ugly concrete block building, and now have built an even Bigger/Uglier one not a mile away..left the other one abandoned. because of the quirky way our town incorporated all those years back, it could be that they moved just across a "line"..
Big boxes do this all the time.. They arrive with pocketsful of promises for jobs jobs jobs... BUT the rub is this.. they demand upfront, promises to get "variances..tax holidays..etc" in exchange for bringing in all those glorious jobs....and just as it comes time for them to start paying taxes, they up and move on to the next sucker.
The shitty jobs did materialize, but in exchange for the local businesses closed that routinely paid their taxes.. All but a few grocery stores in my town are gone..these were UNION stores.. they have been replaced by walmart & ethnic grocers (all non-union)
32 years ago we had Alpha-Beta, Safeway, 2 Ralphs, Vons Pavilion, Stater Brothers and a slew of smaller independent stores.. Now we have Fiesta/Cardenas/El Superior and 2 Stater Bros.. and of courst Walmart .. 2 of them..
madaboutharry
(40,206 posts)This is a plight on the earth.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)rurallib
(62,406 posts)they have left a lot of blight like that around the country.
montanacowboy
(6,082 posts)they had a perfectly beautiful building with great access right off the main road, Hwy 2 in town and they moved out to the new sprawling shopping center north of town and left this building shuttered up which left that end of town like a ghost town.
I hate these SOB's, I have never stepped foot in a Walmart.
CrispyQ
(36,457 posts)It took five years before the old building was leased out. By then, many of the businesses in the area had gone belly up. Now, finally, that area is being built up again. Also, the city picked up most of the cost of adding an additional traffic light at the new location.
The parking lot at Walmart is always busy. Always. There are lots of expensive looking cars in it, too.
"Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price" - an excellent documentary that should be required viewing for America. It covers all aspects of the company's impact on our lives, including how it decimates small businesses, how it keeps it's employees from organizing, how they keep employee hours just low enough so they don't have to offer benefits, the working & living conditions of the factories in China. One fact that was interesting, was that Walmart sometimes has two production lines - one for the European product with the more stringent standard & the other for the American product with the lesser standard. Hey, we're number one!
Everyone should view this movie.
nessa
(317 posts)They stupidly built to close to the rocks in the back.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/55999734@N00/3543761363/
and yes there is another one close by -- a Super Center.
nessa
(317 posts)quaker bill
(8,224 posts)because they do not want competition using the space.
eppur_se_muova
(36,259 posts)Typical for Wal-Mart. They get a big tax bread to build a new store -- as soon as the tax break ends, they relocate outside the boundaries of the municipality that gave them the break (also squeezing a new tax break out of their new home if they can).
Separation
(1,975 posts)But here goes...
While stationed in Kodiak Alaska the stores were all mom & pop shops. If you wanted to get a new set of tires it would be an exorbant and outrageous price. When you call them on their BS, they would say, "it's shipping costs", or my favorite, "take it or leave it where else you gonna get it?" It wasn't a matter of shipping, you could order off the Internet cheaper but had to wait a week to get whatever you needed.
Now enter the Walmart that the locals fought tooth & nail against. Finally we had access to goods at a reasonable price, some of the gouging shops rightfully went out of business. Walmart was one of the best things that happened to Kodiak other than the Taco Bell that opened, (I shit you not, the line when it opened was almost half a mile long).
Now, with that being said, now that I am back in the lower 48 our family avoids Walmart like the plague. We use mom & pop shops when we can, when we can't we order off the Internet.
/dons flame suit
a la izquierda
(11,791 posts)It's near Scranton. My sister lives nearby.
justanidea
(291 posts)There is a Wegmans next door and a newer Walmart supercenter about a half mile away.