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A very compelling picture from Reddit - Somewhere in PA: (Original Post) Cooley Hurd Jun 2013 OP
Unfortunately, there's probably a "NEW" Wal-Mart about half a mile away. CincyDem Jun 2013 #1
Precisely. Laelth Jun 2013 #3
What the hell are you talking about? Wal-Mart's realty operation is enormous. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #13
They may list their old, abandoned properties. Laelth Jun 2013 #15
Well, yeah... except when they actually do. Sen. Walter Sobchak Jun 2013 #18
That's what they did with one of ours.. SoCalDem Jun 2013 #17
I think corporations like Wal-Mart should be forced to demolish the buildings they abandon. madaboutharry Jun 2013 #2
And the parking lots too!! n/t arcane1 Jun 2013 #6
or at least sell or maintain them rurallib Jun 2013 #9
This is what they did in our town montanacowboy Jun 2013 #4
Same happened in our town. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #8
It looks like Dickson City... nessa Jun 2013 #5
and they stiffed the area for around a million bucks in taxes owed... nessa Jun 2013 #7
They almost never sell old stores quaker bill Jun 2013 #10
Their tax holiday ended, they opened another store just outside city limits ? eppur_se_muova Jun 2013 #11
I know I'm gonna get a rash of shit for this. Separation Jun 2013 #12
I know where that is. a la izquierda Jun 2013 #14
Thats Dickson City justanidea Jun 2013 #16

CincyDem

(6,351 posts)
1. Unfortunately, there's probably a "NEW" Wal-Mart about half a mile away.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:32 PM
Jun 2013

They're like locusts - they don't disappear, they just move on.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. Precisely.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jun 2013

And, because they don't want any competition, they refuse to lease or sell an older building like that. They hold onto it, and it becomes a blight. They just pass the costs of keeping the old building on to their customers through those "low, low, prices."

-Laelth

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
13. What the hell are you talking about? Wal-Mart's realty operation is enormous.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 02:48 AM
Jun 2013
http://www.walmartrealty.com/Listings/

You too can own your very own wal-mart non-supercenter.
 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
18. Well, yeah... except when they actually do.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jun 2013

Big Lots, arguably a Wal-Mart competitor has secured a bunch of former Wal-Mart locations.

Wal-Mart Realty is a stand-alone business that is expected to perform.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
17. That's what they did with one of ours..
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 07:08 AM
Jun 2013

They set up shop about 1/2 mile from Target in a butt-ugly concrete block building, and now have built an even Bigger/Uglier one not a mile away..left the other one abandoned. because of the quirky way our town incorporated all those years back, it could be that they moved just across a "line"..

Big boxes do this all the time.. They arrive with pocketsful of promises for jobs jobs jobs... BUT the rub is this.. they demand upfront, promises to get "variances..tax holidays..etc" in exchange for bringing in all those glorious jobs....and just as it comes time for them to start paying taxes, they up and move on to the next sucker.

The shitty jobs did materialize, but in exchange for the local businesses closed that routinely paid their taxes.. All but a few grocery stores in my town are gone..these were UNION stores.. they have been replaced by walmart & ethnic grocers (all non-union)

32 years ago we had Alpha-Beta, Safeway, 2 Ralphs, Vons Pavilion, Stater Brothers and a slew of smaller independent stores.. Now we have Fiesta/Cardenas/El Superior and 2 Stater Bros.. and of courst Walmart .. 2 of them..

madaboutharry

(40,206 posts)
2. I think corporations like Wal-Mart should be forced to demolish the buildings they abandon.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:35 PM
Jun 2013

This is a plight on the earth.

montanacowboy

(6,082 posts)
4. This is what they did in our town
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:41 PM
Jun 2013

they had a perfectly beautiful building with great access right off the main road, Hwy 2 in town and they moved out to the new sprawling shopping center north of town and left this building shuttered up which left that end of town like a ghost town.

I hate these SOB's, I have never stepped foot in a Walmart.

CrispyQ

(36,457 posts)
8. Same happened in our town.
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 09:14 PM
Jun 2013

It took five years before the old building was leased out. By then, many of the businesses in the area had gone belly up. Now, finally, that area is being built up again. Also, the city picked up most of the cost of adding an additional traffic light at the new location.

The parking lot at Walmart is always busy. Always. There are lots of expensive looking cars in it, too.

"Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price" - an excellent documentary that should be required viewing for America. It covers all aspects of the company's impact on our lives, including how it decimates small businesses, how it keeps it's employees from organizing, how they keep employee hours just low enough so they don't have to offer benefits, the working & living conditions of the factories in China. One fact that was interesting, was that Walmart sometimes has two production lines - one for the European product with the more stringent standard & the other for the American product with the lesser standard. Hey, we're number one!

Everyone should view this movie.

nessa

(317 posts)
5. It looks like Dickson City...
Sun Jun 2, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jun 2013

They stupidly built to close to the rocks in the back.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/55999734@N00/3543761363/
and yes there is another one close by -- a Super Center.

eppur_se_muova

(36,259 posts)
11. Their tax holiday ended, they opened another store just outside city limits ?
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 01:57 AM
Jun 2013

Typical for Wal-Mart. They get a big tax bread to build a new store -- as soon as the tax break ends, they relocate outside the boundaries of the municipality that gave them the break (also squeezing a new tax break out of their new home if they can).

Separation

(1,975 posts)
12. I know I'm gonna get a rash of shit for this.
Mon Jun 3, 2013, 02:08 AM
Jun 2013

But here goes...

While stationed in Kodiak Alaska the stores were all mom & pop shops. If you wanted to get a new set of tires it would be an exorbant and outrageous price. When you call them on their BS, they would say, "it's shipping costs", or my favorite, "take it or leave it where else you gonna get it?" It wasn't a matter of shipping, you could order off the Internet cheaper but had to wait a week to get whatever you needed.

Now enter the Walmart that the locals fought tooth & nail against. Finally we had access to goods at a reasonable price, some of the gouging shops rightfully went out of business. Walmart was one of the best things that happened to Kodiak other than the Taco Bell that opened, (I shit you not, the line when it opened was almost half a mile long).

Now, with that being said, now that I am back in the lower 48 our family avoids Walmart like the plague. We use mom & pop shops when we can, when we can't we order off the Internet.

/dons flame suit

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