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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:41 PM Jun 2013

Obama Defends U.S. Surveillance Program As Trade-Off For Security

By Reuters | Jun.07, 2013 | 8:59 PM

U.S. President Barack Obama on Friday staunchly defended the sweeping U.S. government surveillance of Americans' phone and internet activity, calling it a modest encroachment on privacy that was necessary to defend the United States from attack.

Obama said the programs were "trade-offs" designed to strike a balance between privacy concerns and keeping Americans safe from terrorist attacks. He said they were supervised by federal judges and Congress, and that lawmakers had been briefed.

"Nobody is listening to your telephone calls. That's not what this program is about," Obama told reporters during a visit to California's Silicon Valley.

"In the abstract you can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok, but when you actually look at the details, I think we've struck the right balance," Obama said. "There are trade-offs involved."

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Obama Defends U.S. Surveillance Program As Trade-Off For Security (Original Post) Purveyor Jun 2013 OP
Wouldn't a National registry of gun owners be a similar trade-off? JoePhilly Jun 2013 #1
The "Trust Us" Defense... WillyT Jun 2013 #2
BS Meter pegged at 95%, NSA Meta Data program a known known since 2006 with checks & balances uponit7771 Jun 2013 #3

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
1. Wouldn't a National registry of gun owners be a similar trade-off?
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:48 PM
Jun 2013

I mean, if the government was allowed to be informed that you purchased a gun (a legal action), isn't that the same kind of trade off?

Same for background checks.

Same for DUI check points.

Balancing "privacy concerns" with keeping people "safe".

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
2. The "Trust Us" Defense...
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 04:54 PM
Jun 2013
"I welcome this debate and I think it's healthy for our democracy," he continued. "I think it's a sign of maturity, because probably five years ago, six years ago, we might not have been having this debate."

Obama portrayed the programs as a trade-off between security and civil liberties. "I think it's important to recognize that you can't have 100 percent security, and also then have 100 percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We're going to have to make some choices as a society," he said.

He also expressed his displeasure that the domestic spying programs' existence was leaked to the press. "I don't welcome leaks," he said. "There's a reason these programs are classified."

The president's full-throated defense of the programs, albeit with the qualification that he welcomes debate, is unlikely to quell the outrage over the revelations. Obama ran as an antidote to Bush's policies in 2008, but the reports reveal that he has continued many of them, leading to concerns over the reach of the national security state.

Obama went on to defend those who operated the programs as "professionals." "In the abstract, you can complain about 'Big Brother' and how this is a potential program run amok. But when you actually look at the details, then I think we've struck the right balance," he said.


From: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/obama-nsa_n_3403389.html

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
3. BS Meter pegged at 95%, NSA Meta Data program a known known since 2006 with checks & balances
Fri Jun 7, 2013, 05:30 PM
Jun 2013

...this is another sloppy M$M outrage

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