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Would you be willing to die defending and supporting what you believe in? (Original Post) YeahSureRight Jun 2013 OP
I don't know if I would or not madokie Jun 2013 #1
Been there, done that. Scuba Jun 2013 #2
Simple yes or no? Buzz Clik Jun 2013 #3
If you mean ethics, morality, freedom, then no. randome Jun 2013 #4
No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. FarCenter Jun 2013 #5
Beat me to it n/t Fumesucker Jun 2013 #21
No. Question is too general. treestar Jun 2013 #6
No. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #7
Yes. 1-Old-Man Jun 2013 #8
Not everything that I support... LeftishBrit Jun 2013 #9
*I believe* craft brew is vastly superior to corporate swill produced in 25,000-gallon batches Cirque du So-What Jun 2013 #10
Yes PD Turk Jun 2013 #11
Yes. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #12
No pipi_k Jun 2013 #13
In light of the party-conditional treatment of government abuses Dreamer Tatum Jun 2013 #14
My family, yes whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #15
what do you believe in ? newmember Jun 2013 #16
No. Sheldon Cooper Jun 2013 #17
I am. Twofish Jun 2013 #18
No. I'm more effective when I LIVE for what I believe in. VOX Jun 2013 #19
I have no idea. sibelian Jun 2013 #20
Yes. nt. premium Jun 2013 #22
I could not tell you LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #23
Yes, I'm just not willing to Fla_Democrat Jun 2013 #24
No, for good reason. JNelson6563 Jun 2013 #25
What specifically are you talking about? Is it overthrowing the government, I can't tell from your? graham4anything Jun 2013 #26
Yes atreides1 Jun 2013 #27
No. Shivering Jemmy Jun 2013 #28
yes Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #29
YES bluedeathray Jun 2013 #30
Yes Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #31
In what context LWolf Jun 2013 #32
Yes, if my family was in danger. Inspired Jun 2013 #33
I would die for my cause yes MichaelMcGuire Jun 2013 #34
Would you be willing to kill to support what you believe in? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #35
One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter YeahSureRight Jun 2013 #36
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
3. Simple yes or no?
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:13 AM
Jun 2013

Would you be willing to die for your belief that that the milk prices at your local store are too high?

That Wal*Mart underpays its workers?

That meat is bad for you?

That GMOs might be harmful?

It's not simple. You need to rephrase.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. If you mean ethics, morality, freedom, then no.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:20 AM
Jun 2013

Dying means giving up. If I am confronted with a situation where I need to betray one of my principles, I would give in with the intent of continuing the fight, whatever it may be, at a later time.

If you're talking about defending someone's life, I might do that because there is no second chance at that.

But just about everything else, I'd say that staying true to your principles means doing your damnedest to have them win. You don't win by dying. That's only for melodramatic movie endings.

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FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
5. No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:23 AM
Jun 2013

No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.

George S Patton

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. No. Question is too general.
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:24 AM
Jun 2013

Real life does not ever come down to such a stark choice.

For that matter, you could say Mohammed Atta and co. did that. So it's not necessarily a good thing, either. Remember what people "truly believe in" is going to be different for different people.

LeftishBrit

(41,450 posts)
9. Not everything that I support...
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 07:31 AM
Jun 2013

I am not a physically brave person. But I THINK that if it came to a fight to save the basic principle of the social safety net from utter destruction, and I could help to save it at the cost of my life, I would. But it's easy to say that before it comes to it.

Cirque du So-What

(29,525 posts)
10. *I believe* craft brew is vastly superior to corporate swill produced in 25,000-gallon batches
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:01 AM
Jun 2013

but I'm not willing to die for that belief. In fact, if I were to construct a hierarchy of 'beliefs' for which I am willing to die defending and supporting, I don't see any of them making the cut. Martyrdom is not my thing, man. I can do far more good remaining alive, and even if I'm occupying space in a jail cell or hospital, I'm tying up their resources instead of burdening my compatriots with the task of burying my corpse.

PD Turk

(1,289 posts)
11. Yes
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:08 AM
Jun 2013

When my grandfather and great uncle walked off the job in the 30s to join the picket lines and stand up for workers rights they were taking a hell of a risk, putting themselves in grave danger and they knew it. I believe in the same things they believed in when they fought for a better country for common folk.... I can't see how I should do any less

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
13. No
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:11 AM
Jun 2013

Like Gen. Patton expressed in a quote above, you don't win by dying for something.

I'm not sure the point is to make the other guy die instead, but that's not the question.

Also, some beliefs can change. Like religion. I know people who have switched religious beliefs as many times as I've changed my hair color.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,985 posts)
14. In light of the party-conditional treatment of government abuses
Sat Jun 8, 2013, 09:37 AM
Jun 2013

A better question might be, "are you willing to DECIDE what you believe in?"

 

Twofish

(63 posts)
18. I am.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:34 AM
Jun 2013

I am willing to kill or be killed for what I believe in because I do not want my children to live in a world where where they have to do the same.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
19. No. I'm more effective when I LIVE for what I believe in.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 06:45 AM
Jun 2013

My death for any heartfelt causes -- other than defending my family -- would make me a far less functional steward, supporter and underwriter of these very causes.

LostOne4Ever

(9,745 posts)
23. I could not tell you
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 07:08 AM
Jun 2013

until such an occasion came up. Its one thing to say you would on an anonymous message board when you are insulated and completely safe, its a completely different when such situations come up.

As we all know, fair weather patriots are a dime a dozen.

Fla_Democrat

(2,622 posts)
24. Yes, I'm just not willing to
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 07:17 AM
Jun 2013

die defending or supporting what someone else believes in. Or, what someone thinks I should believe in.


JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
25. No, for good reason.
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 07:23 AM
Jun 2013

As long as you live to fight another day, you haven't lost.

You die and well, the fight is over and you lose.

I will always do what I can to live another day to continue the fight. My death would benefit no one except those I would be fighting against.

Julie

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
32. In what context
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 08:39 AM
Jun 2013

should I, or would I, have to?

Edited to add: An overly vague, broad question like that cannot be answered accurately with a "simple" yes or no.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
35. Would you be willing to kill to support what you believe in?
Sun Jun 9, 2013, 11:07 AM
Jun 2013

If so, who? Al Queda kills to defend and support what it believes in and dies to do the same.

 

YeahSureRight

(205 posts)
36. One mans terrorist is anothers freedom fighter
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 03:52 AM
Jun 2013

The British considered the Founding Fathers Terrorists yet in America they were/are hero's.

To answer your question Yes I would but I am in the minority and that is why the 1% can do what they want without any fear reprisals from the people. See the people are not pissed off and angry enough to stand up to them and standing up to them will take the same courage that the Founding Fathers had when they stood up to their corporate masters.

We have a choice we can stand or get on our knees and most would rather get on their knees.

I suggest kneepads for the majority it will hurt less.

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