was talking to a friend about my allowing a guy to put his trailer on one of my river lots.

[loli phabay]

Friend thinks im nuts just letting him camp there with no time limit or rent other than keeping it tidy and cutting back the brush. Made me think how many people have extra bedrooms etc and the question is with so many homeless why if you do have extra space are you not letting someone who needs a room have a room. In full disclosure i dont have a large house and its pretty full with the family but i do let people use my lots and a local church use one for parking and as a donation campground. I am sure that if the will was there then a whole lot of homeless people could be given a roof as they start to rebuild.

[Baitball Blogger]

1. Can you get it in writing?

Permission breaks an adverse possession claim. But it's safer to get that arrangement in writing.

[treestar]

5. Good point

There ought to be some legal document, or nominal rent, to clearly protect the OP from adverse possession claims.

[loli phabay]

8. yup charge a dollar a year or something, hell even give them the dollar on their birthday if you wan

[loli phabay]

6. if they are in your home then yes i would do a lease of somewhat

But i amnot to bothered over the river lot, he can pretty much stay thwre till he dies as i dont use it.

[Baitball Blogger]

7. Adverse possession is all about land.

Does he have any relatives? Potential beneficiaries?

[loli phabay]

10. honestly i dont really care, i was not using or planning to use yhat lot

Its only an acre and a half and i got it dirt cheap as it ajoins some larger lots i bought. I thought about excavating it to build a pond but ended up buying another larger plot with a nice little lake on it.

[treestar]

12. There can be easements too

I'd check the law. It does take a long time, so it's not a big risk, but it's there. He can say you still own the land but he has an easement to keep his trailer there. It seems clear he is there by permission, but no one knows what is going to happen in the future that might make it a great inconvenience to somebody or something OP cares about. So it can't hurt to get it in writing. Brought to you by small time lawyer who sees what can happen later that was never anticipated and to save a few bucks in lawyer fees led to huge lawyer fees down the road.

[loli phabay]

13. yup i believe that was what my land lawyer set up, i already got the local hoa

To extend the dirt road via easement through an ajoining property i own so he has access, part of the deal was i give the hoa members access to the river further down. My lawyer so far has been pretty good.

[Baitball Blogger]

25. Sounds very reasonable.

[loli phabay]

26. i got to say the county and hoa were all easy to work with as well, they all seemed to get it

[blueamy66]

2. You're not nuts.

You are an awesome person.

[loli phabay]

4. not really, the guy just needed somewhere to go when he couldnt afford the rates where he was

I was there when he was served and for no reason told him if he could get it moved then put it here. I dont use the lot as its not good fishing and rarely do i go there so why not.

[blueamy66]

9. I still think you're an awesome person.

Karma

[Jenoch]

18. You are doing a good thing.

However you do not know what the future holds. You can get a fill-in-the-blank lease document from OfficeMax or some other office supply store. Having a more official document to make it a business arrangement will make it better for both you and the guy down on his luck. He will be less likely to take advantage in some way if he knows he can be evicted for some type of misconduct. You may not be worried about using the lot, but you could be held responsible for some of his actions on your property. You need a lease to protect yourself and your family from things you are as of yet not aware.

[loli phabay]

20. yup im not up on this side of the law but my lawyer did paperwork for it

If i remember rightly its a fifty year lease with conditions on his death and of course mine, my eldest son takes over if i die. The easement is removed on the event of his death or end of the lease and the hoa has river access in perpetuity.

[Faux pas]

3. Kudos!

A simple answer to a huge problem

[REP]

11. Letting an unknown person with unknown problems into your house isn't always safe

The vast majority of homeless people are not a threat to anyone, but the more visible homeless do tend to have at least one problem (mental health, substance use, etc) that the average person just isn't equipped to deal or help with. This can lead to unhappy outcomes for all involved.

Giving space to friends and family who have fallen on hard times is another thing entirely, and I think most most people do that already without hesitation.

[loli phabay]

14. yep i dont mean people with serious mental issues, they need more specialised resources

But if you have the room why not open it to someone, i am sure you know someone who is homeless or of someone in dire straits.

[REP]

15. I do; and they all either have substance abuse and/or mental health issues

I am a disabled woman. I am not letting a strange man with known issues into my house - even if I could afford to feed another person who did not contribute to the household.

[loli phabay]

19. well if you have room, it needn't be a guy, what about a homeless mother and kids

Who needs a roof and address to get work or finish school. You get the benefit of having people around and who says she wont contribute to the finances. Ive seen a lot of older folks adopt young families who are having problems and it can be a win win. With the yoinger family getting some help and stability and the older person gaining basically a family. Yes there would be charlatans but there is in anything we do and ive been burned by a sob story once or twice before but its worth taking the step if it helps someone.

[REP]

21. You are welcome to do that!

Alas, even if i knew any homeless mothers and children, my immune system is so poor I cannot be around children and my house isn't big enough anyway (plus, if I can't afford one extra mouth, I surely cannot afford to feed a family or pay tuition or all the myriad expenses children have). But you feel free to load up your house with as many people as you can. If you have extra lots of land you can hand out randomly, you are far better off than I am.

[loli phabay]

22. then you are not the person the question was aimed at, but there have to be duers who have big house

That have empty rooms etc. Not everyone is in a position to give a roof but as per the conversation i had with my friend there are a lot of people who could really make a difference but really only do lip service. At the moment both of us are working with a local church with a view to giving them access to some land both of us have to start a community vegetable grow with the church using some of it to grow for their food pantry, also looking at getting the county to use volunteers from the jail to help work it as part of community service.

[niyad]

16. kudos to you. as for the homes--there was a wonderful hallmark movie about that very thing,

titled (if I remember correctly) "our house". a wealthy widow with a large house ends up bringing in a group of homeless, much to the dismay of her daughter and neighbors. it was a lovely story.

[totodeinhere]

17. Allowing someone to put their trailer on a lot is one thing. And I applaud you for it. But

I think it's a bit of a stretch to ask people who might have an extra bedroom in their house to allow a homeless stranger to move in. Unfortunately we know that many homeless people suffer from problems such as drug use, alcoholism or mental illness. Yes people in this situation need help, but to expect me to allow a homeless person I am not familiar with to move into my house who might have serious problems like this is too much IMO. And no I am not buying into negative stereotypes about homeless people. Many homeless don't have serious personal or social problems like that. They may have simply lost their job or had some life changing event that caused them to become homeless. But if I let a stranger into my home I just can't know for sure what I am getting into.

I think it's much more realistic to donate or do volunteer work for organizations that help the homeless. Here in Elko there is a wonderful private organization called FISH that has done wonders helping the homeless. I would urge anyone who can to donate to them or to other organizations like them.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Elko-Friends-In-Service-Helping-FISH/104044153023665?v=info

[SomethingFishy]

23. You are not alone...

I have a 3 bedroom house. Right now we have 7 people living in it. I have 2 "sofa dwellers" a nephew who couldn't take living with his crazy mom anymore and a friend of my wife's who did 2 years for passing a bad check(they wouldn't let her out because she didn't have a place to live, so we gave her one).

It's not like it's any big deal, it's crowded and we get on each others nerves once in awhile but these are the times we live in. People need help, I feel lucky that I am in a position where people can count on me if they get into trouble...

[loli phabay]

24. now you are a better person than me, though i grew up surrounded by family and friends

The figjts where epic, luckily no cops ever involved and we took care of it ourselves. But you are what i was talking about,

[SomethingFishy]

27. No better than anyone else. Just in a position to

help... Ok wait, I am better than some rich guy who lives with 3 people in a 30 room mansion

[loli phabay]

28. yup, though we dont have a large house there are cultural rules that kinda curtail people living

With us, but i applaud you.

[1-Old-Man]

29. When I bought this place, 40 years ago, it had 2 houses on it. No one ever paid rent for the other

The other house stood for about 20 years and various people lived in it for about half to two-thirds of that time. I never asked for a dime of rent from any of them. The place was barely habitable and they were all dirt poor. What the fuck was I supposed to do, tell them no? I may be a heartless old bastard on some things, but shit, people have to have a roof over their head.

[loli phabay]

30. i just tore down a house that was down in the pasture in front of my house

The wife hated it and when it went on sale i bought it and the land for her birthday, totally shocked at how bad it was considering it was built same year as my house by the same guy. Had the county advise me that it was not habitable and would need to be seriously rehabbed, i just told them my wife hated it and i was tearing it down.

[southernyankeebelle]

31. I have a question. We own 12 acres of land. My in-laws use to have cows on the back fields around

our house. We don't use the fields. My neighbors and his family own several hundreds of acres of land around us. We let him use the land so it can be cleaned up. We can't possibly cut the grass. About a month ago he started to take some trees down and clean up the area. We didn't mind him doing it but when my husband saw the guy doing it he asked him what he was doing? The guy told him he was to cut and bulldoz the trees. He said that this property is ours and not his and it would be nice if he would ask us first. He even took the back barn down and that was ok because it was falling apart. Now it looks nice. But my husband said next time before he does anything he needs to tell us. We are letting him use the property for nothing because we don't have a riding lawn mower. He cuts our lawns also. Not every week but it helps us now that we are older. My in-laws and their families have always been good with each other. I trust them. But because he is using our fields can he end up with taking them for his.

[loli phabay]

32. talk to the county, or a lawyer. internet legal advice is always iffy due to local laws

I had an issue with a guy who had a fence that encroached on a plot i bought, probuably close to half an acre. It had been that way for twenty years so he gave me five bucks and we amended the deeds to save the hassle of court etc. He happily gives us a goat or two every year as a friendly gesture and i have no problem losing the strip of land as its a wooded plot that ends at the fence.

[southernyankeebelle]

33. Good solution. I don't want any trouble either. His family owns lots of land.

[loli phabay]

34. you could talk to him, draw up a land use lease that allows him to graze

But talk to the county or lawyer first for local laws.

[1-Old-Man]

36. If you're still paying the taxes on it and its still in the deed book in your name, then its yours.

[southernyankeebelle]

37. Yes we are still paying the taxes on it.

[uppityperson]

35. I've been on both ends of this arrangement and thank you for bringing this up and doing this.

Our wonderful house/pet sitter started as a recently unemployed homeless person who moved in with us like that for a while, now is house sitting all over and still feels owes us and we feel we owe them.

Trying to come up with $ for rent, I stayed in a trailer of a stranger for a while. I had 1 person later who stayed in mine and stole my bedding and dishes, but oh well. It made me distrust people for a while, but then the good pet/house sitter happened.

[david13]

38. Sounds good, but ...

Helping someone out does sound good.
I know here the county or the city won't allow it. But it sounds like you have cleared all that with local codes.
And made a waste water hook up. There needs to be a sewer connection, or a septic tank.
I know I'm about to be evicted, and that type of situation is about all that's going to save me from the street.
But due to codes and regulations, I'm going to be facing a whole lot of money for the monthly rent.
Which I probably can't afford.
dc