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adric mutelovic

(208 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:12 AM Jun 2013

CNN: "Zimmerman is Hispanic; Martin was African-American"

Today CNN writes about the George Zimmerman trial and describes him in the 4th paragraph as "Zimmerman is Hispanic; Martin was African-American."

I don't have a problem with this, as it balances out the many people on the Internets who call Zimmerman "white" while getting mad when someone points out he is also half Peruvian, or "Hispanic."

Read the entire story here:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/10/justice/florida-zimmerman-trial/index.html

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CNN: "Zimmerman is Hispanic; Martin was African-American" (Original Post) adric mutelovic Jun 2013 OP
I'm focused on different facts.... FarPoint Jun 2013 #1
Whatever. He acted like a racist with his beloved gun that evening. Hoyt Jun 2013 #2
Yeah. The same way Charlie Sheen is Hispanic. Give it a fucking rest. alphafemale Jun 2013 #3
Bingo...and I never heard of any Hispanics named Zimmerman SummerSnow Jun 2013 #5
Jorge Zimmerman! nt Ilsa Jun 2013 #12
Ever hear of one named Richardson? Freddie Stubbs Jun 2013 #14
there's plenty of hispanics named zimmerman. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #18
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Would he have been assaulted if B Calm Jun 2013 #9
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WHAT A FUCKING LOAD OF BULLSHIT. Being chased is most certainly justification for assault. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #20
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Following? You mean being chased? Pffft. Even cops go to jail for shooting unarmed kids. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #27
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Nope. They all changed their stories. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #34
Um yes it is under the same law Zimmerman is trying to use to justify murder Drale Jun 2013 #28
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Was Zimmerman psychic? Drale Jun 2013 #35
So you're able to put one in the chamber during a scuffle? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #36
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I look forward to your long tenure at DU Orrex Jun 2013 #22
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I'm sure that your long membership will afford you many opportunities to do so. Orrex Jun 2013 #33
Or maybe not... Orrex Jun 2013 #41
I do not envy MIRT right now, may have their hands busy with these sorts. uppityperson Jun 2013 #43
Yes indeed. Orrex Jun 2013 #44
Your sig line is taking a break? I guess too many were confused about uppityperson Jun 2013 #45
LOL. Yeah. Orrex Jun 2013 #46
The "ambush" story makes no sense whatsoever. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #16
People will believe anything, even the most ridiculous, when there's a scary black man Solomon Jun 2013 #39
Seems like he assaulted Martin . . . brush Jun 2013 #17
Carlos Irwin Esteves is the son of Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez, both clearly from Japan.... Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #25
Anything coming from CNN has to be pure trash. gordianot Jun 2013 #4
Agreed. Like Fox, I ignore CNN totally. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #6
Whatever his genetic or ethnic background, his prejudices regarding young black males eShirl Jun 2013 #7
I don't know if race was a motivator in this tragic event, wolfgirl Jun 2013 #10
dumb idea to follow Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #13
Zimmerman outweighed Martin by 30-40 pounds brush Jun 2013 #19
Not to mention Zimmerman trained at the best kickboxing/MMA gym in the country. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #21
and he was still Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #48
Prove it. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #54
he was on the Niceguy1 Jun 2013 #57
Which gym is that? adric mutelovic Jun 2013 #58
He's a White Hispanic. It's actually an official census classification. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #15
Wonder if that's to drive a wedge between Hispanics and African-Americans? brush Jun 2013 #23
You know it is. Solomon Jun 2013 #40
Zimmy is GUILTY beyond a shadow of a doubt. That is the only important thing to know graham4anything Jun 2013 #30
Without being presented Jenoch Jun 2013 #47
Whatever. NOLALady Jun 2013 #31
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Zimmerman's a gun-fucking killer. Iggo Jun 2013 #42
zimmerman is white and martin is black arely staircase Jun 2013 #49
So what if he is? sakabatou Jun 2013 #50
some people think the White Race is on trial Enrique Jun 2013 #51
Zimmerman is Hispanic. I realize that most people's experience with Hispanics is LittleBlue Jun 2013 #52
You ain't even gotta go that far. Iggo Jun 2013 #53
does this mean wingnuts are less likely to defend him ? but trayvon is still black JI7 Jun 2013 #55
I think the freepers and stormfronters have awarded Zimmerman Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #56
Zimmerman enjoys white privilege. -nt- b.durruti Jun 2013 #59

FarPoint

(14,940 posts)
1. I'm focused on different facts....
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:22 AM
Jun 2013

Zimmerman got out of his truck, motivated by his own delusional thoughts, and began hunting down and catching a black hoodlum. It was easy for him as he was armed.

This entire scenario was unprompted by Treyvon who was only walking home.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
3. Yeah. The same way Charlie Sheen is Hispanic. Give it a fucking rest.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:39 AM
Jun 2013

The guy saw a black kid, chased him down with a gun and shot him.

Response to alphafemale (Reply #3)

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
9. Would he have been assaulted if
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:17 AM
Jun 2013

he wasn't chasing someone for no reason with a loaded gun?

The guy appears to me to have committed cold blooded murder!

Response to B Calm (Reply #9)

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
20. WHAT A FUCKING LOAD OF BULLSHIT. Being chased is most certainly justification for assault.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:57 AM
Jun 2013

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #20)

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
27. Following? You mean being chased? Pffft. Even cops go to jail for shooting unarmed kids.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:24 AM
Jun 2013

GTFO. YOU just said you can't use deadly force, so then why did Zimmerman use deadly force?

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #27)

Drale

(7,932 posts)
28. Um yes it is under the same law Zimmerman is trying to use to justify murder
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:25 AM
Jun 2013

if someone is following you and has a loaded gun, your life is very much in danger and you have a right to "stand your ground" at least according to Florida.

Response to Drale (Reply #28)

Drale

(7,932 posts)
35. Was Zimmerman psychic?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:40 AM
Jun 2013

Why was he following Trayvon in the first place? Because he's a racist POS with a Rambo complex and a blood lust to shoot someone

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #36)

Orrex

(67,392 posts)
22. I look forward to your long tenure at DU
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:03 AM
Jun 2013

I expect to read much insightful commentary from you for years to come.

Response to Orrex (Reply #22)

uppityperson

(116,026 posts)
45. Your sig line is taking a break? I guess too many were confused about
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:11 PM
Jun 2013

being ignored though it make me smile reading ata.

Orrex

(67,392 posts)
46. LOL. Yeah.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:12 PM
Jun 2013

As you note, they have enough to handle without also fielding a bunch of questions about devilishly clever sig-lines!

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,586 posts)
16. The "ambush" story makes no sense whatsoever.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:05 AM
Jun 2013

Why would someone who was chased for no apparent reason, then managed to escape the pursuer then chose to double back and ambush the person he had just managed to get away from?

Huge holes of logic in Zimmerman's story.

Solomon

(12,652 posts)
39. People will believe anything, even the most ridiculous, when there's a scary black man
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:51 AM
Jun 2013

involved.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
25. Carlos Irwin Esteves is the son of Ramón Antonio Gerardo Estévez, both clearly from Japan....
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:22 AM
Jun 2013

Martin's father, Charlie's grand dad was born in Spain.
Charlie's issues do not mean he loses his heritage. Not in my book.

eShirl

(20,432 posts)
7. Whatever his genetic or ethnic background, his prejudices regarding young black males
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:04 AM
Jun 2013

played a big part in what he elected to do that night, IMHO.

wolfgirl

(972 posts)
10. I don't know if race was a motivator in this tragic event,
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:34 AM
Jun 2013

or if it was Mr. Zimmerman feeling invincible because he had a gun or if he just made a series of stupid decisions leading to a situation that was going to have a bad ending....I feel there are too many factors to place blame onany one single thing.

I don't know all the facts in this case, but know that if Mr. Zimmerman had not gotten out of his vehicle and followed Martin, this discussion would not be taking place.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
13. dumb idea to follow
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:10 AM
Jun 2013

Someone who was way bigger than you.... the photo s that were circulated of martin were old and don't reflect his current state... zimmernan was on the loosing side of the fight and paniced ...

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
19. Zimmerman outweighed Martin by 30-40 pounds
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:55 AM
Jun 2013

That's not even disputed. Those facts are out there. Look 'em up.

Plus, zimmerman had the false courage of his gun at his side so stalking was no problem.

And he was the self-appointed new sheriff in town.

He was gonna show that kid who was boss.

He wasn't afraid of no teenager, even if the teenager had on a hoodie, and Skittles, and ice tea, and was minding his own business, and just walking home.

Yep, he'd show him.

Niceguy1

(2,467 posts)
57. he was on the
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jun 2013

Bottom... usually once you are in that position its game over.

For as bad as he thought he was zimmerman is a wimp.

Tommy_Carcetti

(44,586 posts)
15. He's a White Hispanic. It's actually an official census classification.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:03 AM
Jun 2013

I don't understand your preoccupation with the matter though. White Hispanics are incapable of racial profiling other minorities?

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
23. Wonder if that's to drive a wedge between Hispanics and African-Americans?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:10 AM
Jun 2013

You never know with that increasingly right-leaning CNN.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
30. Zimmy is GUILTY beyond a shadow of a doubt. That is the only important thing to know
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:30 AM
Jun 2013

and may there be a civil suit to follow this one.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
47. Without being presented
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 12:59 PM
Jun 2013

the evidence the jurors see at the trial. I believe your statement to be premature. If the jury is able to convict on a manslaughter charge, I believe Zimmerman will be convicted.

Response to adric mutelovic (Original post)

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
51. some people think the White Race is on trial
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:23 PM
Jun 2013

thus their preoccupation with whether people call Zimmerman white.

 

LittleBlue

(10,362 posts)
52. Zimmerman is Hispanic. I realize that most people's experience with Hispanics is
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 01:44 PM
Jun 2013

usually those of Mexican descent, many of whom traditionally have very Hispanic sounding names and complexions. But that isn't necessarily the case.

Google Nestor Kirchner (former Argentine president, deceased) or Shakira (Mebarak Ripoll). Shakira's ancestry is Lebanese, and Kirchner's was European and he doesn't even look Hispanic. Yet both are Hispanic. If you took a trip to South America, especially Brazil, Argentina or Chile, you'd see just how European Hispanics can look and sound.

JI7

(93,904 posts)
55. does this mean wingnuts are less likely to defend him ? but trayvon is still black
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 05:51 PM
Jun 2013

so maybe not.

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