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jessie04

(1,528 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:05 AM Jun 2013

Simple question: Is Snowden a Whistle-blower or Treasonist ?

Did he inform on someone breaking the law ( whistle-blower)

or

he inform on a legal congress approved ( ) plan that he signed never to divulge ( Treasonist) ?










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Simple question: Is Snowden a Whistle-blower or Treasonist ? (Original Post) jessie04 Jun 2013 OP
a thief of his companies business papers. Sunlei Jun 2013 #1
Another right wing treasonist! B Calm Jun 2013 #2
Whatever Rand and Ron Paul think, I think the other. graham4anything Jun 2013 #3
WTF is a "treasonist"? NoPasaran Jun 2013 #4
he brokers treaties? Javaman Jun 2013 #10
Someone who puts condiments on their trees, instead of eating them unseasoned? winter is coming Jun 2013 #26
Is that what happens when I cast asparagus?? madinmaryland Jun 2013 #30
Asparagus is cast when people who mistake it for tiny trees. winter is coming Jun 2013 #32
He broke the law. Laelth Jun 2013 #5
Thoreau went to jail NoPasaran Jun 2013 #19
Perhaps they should have. Laelth Jun 2013 #23
Someone who was supposedly pulling down $200K probably has some pretty nice shoes, I would guess NoPasaran Jun 2013 #33
Can't decide if he's a whistle-blower or a weasel. n/t mia Jun 2013 #6
Wouldn't that be Traitor? BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #7
I hate when people make up new words when a perfectly good word exists already. yellowcanine Jun 2013 #11
Especially when they aren't as good as the words we already use. BlueToTheBone Jun 2013 #14
Neither. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #8
I'll go with that. randome Jun 2013 #17
No Progressive dog Jun 2013 #9
Stupidest fucking debate question ever. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #12
I'll wait for more facts before jumping on or off the bandwagon. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #13
It's not just 'breaking the law' B2G Jun 2013 #15
And 'abuse of power' is also covered. nt B2G Jun 2013 #16
I'll let you know when I figure out if he is for real or not. nt Zorra Jun 2013 #18
He broke the law by revealing information. He didn't expose any lawbreaking. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #20
He's a criminal Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #21
I'll reserve judgement yet. roamer65 Jun 2013 #22
He did not follow the whistleblowing procedures for classified information. FarCenter Jun 2013 #24
I don't know yet. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #25
The word you want is "traitor" not "treasonist", which is not a word Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #27
Too soon to tell, maybe something else also still_one Jun 2013 #28
You mean "traitor," don't you? nt Th1onein Jun 2013 #29
He is guilty of treason. The more I find out about him, the more he looks like a rightwing bluestate10 Jun 2013 #31

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
32. Asparagus is cast when people who mistake it for tiny trees.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 08:38 PM
Jun 2013

Such people fall into two categories:

1) Those with extremely poor eyesight
2) Those who believe Hollandaise sauce is a type of mayonnaise invented by the Dutch.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
5. He broke the law.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:17 AM
Jun 2013

As have activists throughout history. Were Henry David Thoreau and Rosa Parks whistleblowers or traitors? In the context of civil disobedience, this question makes little sense.

-Laelth

NoPasaran

(17,317 posts)
19. Thoreau went to jail
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:23 PM
Jun 2013

Rosa Parks was arrested, although apparently her case dragged on until the case became moot. Neither of them fled the country to avoid the personal consequences of their civil disobedience.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
23. Perhaps they should have.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:34 PM
Jun 2013

I would not want to be in Mr. Snowden's shoes right now.

-Laelth

NoPasaran

(17,317 posts)
33. Someone who was supposedly pulling down $200K probably has some pretty nice shoes, I would guess
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jun 2013

BlueToTheBone

(3,747 posts)
7. Wouldn't that be Traitor?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:48 AM
Jun 2013

I think you just made a word up when we have a perfectly good one to describe the perp.

yellowcanine

(36,797 posts)
11. I hate when people make up new words when a perfectly good word exists already.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:36 AM
Jun 2013

And it is not if one couldn't be colorful within the existing language framework.

For example, treasonous nincompoop could be employed in this instance.

GoCubsGo

(34,921 posts)
8. Neither.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:55 AM
Jun 2013

He's a naive political hack with delusions of "saving the world" from somebody whose politics he doesn't like.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
17. I'll go with that.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:49 AM
Jun 2013

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[font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font]
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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
13. I'll wait for more facts before jumping on or off the bandwagon.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:41 AM
Jun 2013

He didn't expose anything we don't already know, so I'm not sure he is a whistleblower. His entire motive seems to be to spark a National conversation about this. Which could have been done without leaking classified info.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
15. It's not just 'breaking the law'
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jun 2013

It also refers to mismanagement, corruption, illegality, or some other wrongdoing.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
20. He broke the law by revealing information. He didn't expose any lawbreaking.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:26 PM
Jun 2013

He's no whistleblower.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
24. He did not follow the whistleblowing procedures for classified information.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jun 2013

Members of the intelligence community have a process defined in legislation passed by Congress for whistleblowing using classified information, one of which is taking the information to a Congressperson.

Instead, he broke the law by making classified information public.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
27. The word you want is "traitor" not "treasonist", which is not a word
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 06:39 PM
Jun 2013

I do not consider informing on a police state to be treason, I consider contravening the Constitution to be treason.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
31. He is guilty of treason. The more I find out about him, the more he looks like a rightwing
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jun 2013

ideologue. Of course some "progressives" here on DU are ready to build a bronze statue of that poser. He sat through Bush and said nothing.

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