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1. I'd have to be convinced he actually leaked something important to agree

I'm still not. Remember, we don't know if he was also Greenwald's source for the warrant, even. We just have a PowerPoint and some stories.

[DirkGently]

2. WELCOME TO DU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ForgoTheConsequence]

3. Ok.

Thanks FOR telling US how you FEEL. I really APPRECIATE it.

[Puzzledtraveller]

4. An oath to a private company?

[HipChick]

5. Yep..they make you also sign a document..

It is legal and binding..

[avaistheone1]

30. What does the document say?

[Igel]

36. Same kind of stuff.

The company is held to the national security requirements and hold the employee to the same requirements. They pass the legal liability through and follow the same rules that their contracting agency would impose.

I worked for a translation company that did NASA and corporate work. Nothing involving very much national security. Still some had some sort of security clearance associated with it. We had the same obligations and liability that the NASA translators had. The difference was that we worked by the job, when NASA had more work than their staffers could handle. (Which was pretty much all the time.)

[avaistheone1]

39. Well then how does Blackwater get away with murder, and companies like Halliburton get away with

fraud when working on behalf of the US government?

[Gregorian]

6. Obedience or death!

That's what America is about.

[msongs]

7. obama also took an oath. oh, his doesn't count though nt

[HangOnKids]

17. Stop with the recipes and the fucking exclamation points

Jesus.

[lob1]

23. The Klan has a secrecy oath. So do the Bloods and Crips.

Do you respect their secrecy, too?

[indepat]

18. And so did 535 members of Congress, high-level appointees and officers of the military

services. Something about upholding the Constitution of the United State should such piffles matter.

[Laelth]

26. Yep. That's the oath that matters to me. n/t

-Laelth

[lob1]

8. I thought we knew all about this crap years ago,

so why throw someone in prison for releasing it now?

[DirkGently]

22. I think they want to imprison him for raising an uncomfortable

topic. Obama promised more transparency around secret surveillance, and instead the administration has doubled down on Bush's theory that we cannot even see the rulings where, for, instance, it was determined the Constitution was being violated.

[okaawhatever]

9. Yes and he didn't try to get the story out wihout leaking the classified info. I think

we're going to find out that he took this job with the intention of doing this.


I can't find the link to the story about the organization formed six months ago that is behind this. I don't know if it was in Latest Breaking or Gen discussion but I've looked through both. Thanks if you can help

[Tarheel_Dem]

35. It's especially troubling that he was only there for (3) months. Did he take the job to do this?

Was he put up to this by Greenwald? And why flee to Communist China? He claims that he can't live in a country where his communications might be monitored, but then flees to the bedrock country of State owned media. A country that is known for hacking into American businesses, our news outlets, and our Defense Dept. If he's not actually in collusion with some foreign entity, I bet they're itching to get their hands on him, as he may prove to be a very valuable asset.

I think the initial praise for this guy, especially in this country, will soon begin to be questioned by the praisers. As the "bombshell" is subsiding, the media is now getting around to developing a portrait of Mr. Snowden, and some serious questions are finally being raised about him, and they're exploring motives other than the ones he's stated to Greenwald.

[HangOnKids]

11. That Header Reminds Me of Somebody Else

Welcome to DU....

[reflection]

37. Doesn't It, Though? n/t

[Catherina]

13. LMAO n/t

[HangOnKids]

16. I Tried Reading The OP In My Best Lewis Black Voice

But it still isn't clever. I think the poster is going for a trifecta of hides.

[Catherina]

20. I read it silently in horror

Just a trifecta lol?

[reformist2]

14. Congratulations on your new job!

[atreides1]

15. What Oath?

I know he probably had to sign a non-disclosure form...but I don't believe he took an oath!

Having friends who also work for BAH, they never took an oath...just had to sign some forms.

[Fumesucker]

19. Welcome to DU!

I hope you enjoy your stay.

[Octafish]

21. An oath to the Constitution.

That's why he leaked.

[avaistheone1]

31. Octafish!

You are always the voice of reason. You arrived just in time before poor Snowden is pillored and set aflame.

[lynne]

24. I would think that George Washington took an oath, too -

- when he was appointed a major in the Virginia provincial militia in February 1753. Virginia was part of the colonies at that time and was under British rule. George would have sworn his allegiance not only to the colony of Virginia, but to Mother England.

Was George a Patriot or a traitor? Just think where we'd be today had he upheld his allegiances to England.

[KoKo]

25. What "OATH?"

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. Tsk! Tsk! He and Manning dared to tell the American people what their government does!

[marions ghost]

33. bring out the smelling salts

[backscatter712]

28. "to protect the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic"

Lots of domestic enemies of the Constitution work in three-letter-agencies.

[avaistheone1]

32. And their misdeeds and failures are all hidden under the cloak of "government secrecy".

[Brickbat]

29. An oaf?

[Thinkingabout]

34. Is Snowden so stupid as to believe he was smart enough with a GED to be a

Judge in determining whether the work performed was nit legal? Perhaps he was so stupid, does not excuse him from realizing he was doing wrong to divulge sensitive information to a foreign news source. He is out and out a,criminal. He knew it was bad enough to run so he had some understanding of his actions.

[Malik Agar]

38. OP = troll

You're trying too hard bro

[Kingofalldems]

41. Yep

[Kingofalldems]

40. I love that story.