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[quinnox]

1. I would give him a damn medal, he is a true hero

in my book. I suppose you want him transferred to Gitmo at once. I'm sure many republicans are of the same opinion.

[bluestate10]

8. He is a traitor. But because you seem to bash Obama non-stop, Snowden

being a fucking traitor who abandoned his girlfriend to her own devices and police interrogation. I for one don't care whether my calls are monitored, I have nothing to be ashamed of or to hide.

[Ms. Toad]

14. I'm sure quite a few people

hanging out in Gitmo
or in the local INS office
or anyplace else our government takes people it finds inconvenient who don't have the right accent or color of skin so we perceive them as a threat.

[NoPasaran]

24. Gitmo, shmitmo

I'm thinking maybe they could fire up Ol' Sparky and give him the Rosenberg Treatment

[MrSlayer]

2. Apparently, this asshole released the names of undercover agents.

That is not heroic or brave or anything of the sort. That's criminal.

[Life Long Dem]

6. It's treason if he hands this info over to China

Which happens to be where this criminal was last known to be.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

3. There is something else going on.

I am smelling something that should be counted as treason against the U.S people.

And no, not with the White House.

[damnedifIknow]

4. NSA Leaker Edward Snowden a ‘National Hero’ on White House Petition

"Within hours of Edward Snowden’s revealing that he was the source of the stunning surveillance leak last week, thousands of people had signed a petition on the Obama White House website asking for a “full, free, and absolute pardon for any crimes he has committed or may have committed.”

‘We The People” is a forum for which the White House staff promises to review any petition that receives 100,000 signatures within a month after being posted on the official government site.

Supporters posted the petition Sunday after The Guardian newspaper published the former intelligence worker’s name and an interview in which he explained why he leaked details of the National Security Agency’s sweep of U.S. telephone traffic records.

The petition calls Snowden “a national hero” for blowing the whistle on the surveillance program.

The White House, however, disagrees."

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/06/nsa-leaker-edward-snowden-a-national-hero-on-white-house-petition/?.tsrc=lgwn%20ForceRecrawl:%200/

[bluestate10]

10. Snowden is a traitor who has put the lives of american covert agents at risk. nt

[randome]

5. Yes, where do we draw the line?

I suspect that most of the cheerleaders for Snowden do not have an idea on how to answer that. All they seem to know is 'The government is evil'.

But I would be interested in hearing what it would take for them to feel like intelligence agencies are doing their jobs appropriately.

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[Kingofalldems]

7. Now you have two threads basically saying the same thing

What is that called again, I forgot?

[Blue_In_AK]

9. T***L?

[Kingofalldems]

12. Big time.

One of DU's finest clued me in.

[LWolf]

11. I draw the line at excessive exclamation points and all-cap shouting, myself.

It's very limited, and easily manipulated thinking that has to break everything down into only two choices, in this case, "hero" or "goat." For me, this is not about Snowden, but about the abuses. I guess, if the abuses of your hero can be categorized as "legal," you have no other option than to attack personalities.

As Cali said, "You have to be utterly ignorant of history, in a state of denial, dumb as grits, or partisan to the point of mindlessness, to believe that the 16 major national security agencies aren't to some degree or another abusing their powers."

I don't have to approve, nor disapprove, of Snowden to be glad that this issue is finally getting the attention it deserves.

[magellan]

15. +1 n/t

[99Forever]

13. Educate yourself.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

21. Obviously, some commie whistle blower leaked that bit of propaganda to discrediit the president.

[loyalsister]

16. I had that "Manning copycat" thought too

I see him as a narcissist.

[maxrandb]

19. Not to mention that there is a right way to express your concerns

if you are dealing with classified National Security information.

I spent 29 years in the Navy, including quite a bit of time as a Security Manager with one of the highest clearances you can hold.

You know what you de if you think things are being "over-classified"?

You know what you do if you think someone is over-reaching?

You're trained to go to the Inspector General, or to contact Congressional Staff, or to bring it to your Top Secret Control Officer.

What you don't do is illegally copy classified documents and pass them to a foreign news organization, or hide out in Hong Kong.

This guy has done more damage to our National Security than Warrant Officer John Walker could have ever dreamed of.

He needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[maxrandb]

22. BTW

Neither you, or I, or Edward Snowden gets to decide "what's best for our country", or "what classified information the public has a need to know".

I will say this as emphatically as I can...."This Snowden guy is a traitor, and he needs to be prosecuted as a traitor".

Yes DU, it is possible to commit treason against your country...and this guy has done so