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Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:33 PM Jun 2013

RE: NSA snooping. 'Told ya so'..

..and I'm not alone. The problem is twofold.

One: THEM. The Big (Brother) Problem, is the snooping. We opt into being snooped on by corporations we love to hate like Facebook and Google. I don't remember checking a box for this. Do you?

Two: US. The I Told You So Problem, is the general ignorance of the technology that we use every day.. for which there is *no excuse*. It's not that hard to put your support behind Open Source movement. Start with Linux, you computer illiterate dope. When people who know more tell you to use TOR, go and fucking learn how to install the goddamn TOR Browser. The Onion Network is nothing without more nodes. It gets faster with every new user. Use it and watch Facebook freak out.

Learn something. Learn how to protect yourself. It's your responsibility to learn how to fucking 'whisper' electronically.

I know how. I'm not alone. Here's the tip of the Iceburg. Eat the pill, Nero. Protect yourself.

https://www.torproject.org/

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RE: NSA snooping. 'Told ya so'.. (Original Post) Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 OP
Do you honestly think nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #1
did you honestly read my post nad? Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #2
Yes, and they will go through your security nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3
then what you really said is 'no, i did not read it, phil'.. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #4
Denial is not just a river in Egypt nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #5
no, you don't know about encryption. at all. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #6
Ok... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #7
start with VOIP. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #9
Honestly, people don't care. They have lives outside of the tech bubble. randome Jun 2013 #8
i don't. i expect the bare minimum, and am left wanting. Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #10
2nd thought.. why then the outrage and passion in defense? Phillip McCleod Jun 2013 #11
 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
2. did you honestly read my post nad?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:45 PM
Jun 2013

the open source movement is built on linux. accept it or remain a user.. no skin off my teeth. every tool worth using is native to linux, and if there's any hope for an alternative to being spied on, it's via tools that the hacker understands.

that's the difference between being a user and a hacker, but when a user asks how to protect themselves, and you say 'learn how to use your fucking computer and start with TOR'.. and they promptly ignore you and complain about viruses..

..then yeah. i have little sympathy.

what's your opinion, nad? please, do enlighten how remaining ignorant is going to help.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
3. Yes, and they will go through your security
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jun 2013

Perhaps not like soft butter, but hard butter. NSA uses Linux, multiple flavors...too.

Nah...it's not at that end...it is in the streets, in open defiance. Yup, it might feel like defiance. But that is all it is.

Having talked to a couple of our electeds today...my friend we are in deep shit.

Oh and yes, fuck Hoover

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
4. then what you really said is 'no, i did not read it, phil'..
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:05 PM
Jun 2013

..because the point of the post is protecting yourself, and the refusal to learn how to do so. if you know how, then i really don't know why you chose to snark. so far you have nothing.

here's a fact. if i encrypt some files or an email using a sufficiently large key, and a robust algorithm, the NSA will *never* in a bazillion years crack that motherfucker. not ever. slap a 4096 bit key on something and forget the password? neither will anyone else, including you.

it's math, not whatever paranoid fantasy you're spinning. try it. i have and therefore.. you got jack shit.

believe me, if i chose to, i could encrypt some plaintext in a way that nobody could ever crack it without cracking me. that's why some states are passing laws to make it an additional felony to withhold an encrypted drive.

can't be done. can't crack some codes.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
6. no, you don't know about encryption. at all.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:10 PM
Jun 2013

you are a user of encryption, and you read a couple articles about people who know about encryption, but you do not know..

..if you think there are no unbreakable codes that don't requiring phishing? read up on quantum crypto. it exists, and is unbreakable. not in the projected lifetime of the universe, anyway.

 

Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
9. start with VOIP.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:21 PM
Jun 2013

there are many apps for every mobile OS.. free and paid.. that provide these services. depending on why you want to encrypt that call, there is a how.

if you just need to tell your medical MJ supplier to meet you at the corner of Yale & 4th, just use any VOIP. if you or your supplier is under scrutiny, the call logs just won't exist.

if you need to transmit your patent for a zero-point machine to your mad professor, choose a VOIP app that works with TOR.

how do you know if it works with Tor, you ask? good question. try apps made by the Guardian Project, which are Tor compliant.. at least.. for Android.

Here's a link.. https://guardianproject.info/

P.S. You know, Android.. the *OPEN SOURCE LINUX-BASED MOBILE OPERATING SYSTEM*

edit.. (Oh, yeah.. and just encrypt the text of the message to your mad professor using some sort of strong crypto, of which there are plenty. Try GnuPG.. http://gnupg.org/ )

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. Honestly, people don't care. They have lives outside of the tech bubble.
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:18 PM
Jun 2013

They do not want to be bothered with technical concerns and I don't blame them at all, even though I'm in IT. None of us should expect everyone to follow in our footsteps.

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Phillip McCleod

(1,837 posts)
11. 2nd thought.. why then the outrage and passion in defense?
Mon Jun 10, 2013, 11:52 PM
Jun 2013

should those completely ignorant of the (computer) science involved get to dictate policy?

let's rephrase shall we?

should those completely ignorant of the (climate) science involved get to dictate policy?

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